From Spain here, when we want to speak about USA people we use the term “yankee” or “gringo” rather than “american” cause our americans arent from USA, that terms are correct or mean other things?

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    You can say USAmerican or US (as an adjective, e.g. US government) as a neutral demonym. “Yankee” and “gringo” have pejorative connotations, although I’m not Latin American so I don’t know what the connotations are among LatAm Spanish speakers. Also, my understanding of the word “gringo” as someone who lives in neither of the Americas is that it refers to specifically white people, not USAmericans in general. I’m not sure if I’ve understood the usage of the term correctly, but if other people have the same understanding, they may get confused if you call eg a Black USAmerican a gringo.

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    I’m in Texas, so there is a lot of Mexican cultural exchange. Spanish was practically a second language in my public schools, and most people speak at least a little bit of spanglish.

    When a Mexican calls an American a gringo, they’re not being nice. “Gringo” is typically used as a pejorative, to refer to a specific type of “mayo is too spicy and I’m afraid of people who have melatonin” white people.

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    Its my understanding that in Spanish, “American” refers to anyone from the Americas. In some languages/countries, the Americas are taught as 1 continent (Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia, Antarctica, and America), so a person from any country in the Americas would be called “American”.

    In most English speaking countries, we are taught that there are 7 continents, and north and south America are separate continents. In that context, you wouldn’t really use a term to refer to people from both continents. It’s similar to how, as a spaniard, I could not call you “eurasian”, i would just say “european”. In English, you would then have to refer to people as either “north american” or “south american”.

    In practice, we do refer to people from south America as “south american”, but north america usually gets divided into “central american” and “caribbean”, which only leaves the US, Canada, and Mexico.

    People from Mexico and Canada have obvious demonyms, while the USA does not. “Gringo” also applies to Canadians (and it’s specifically referring to non-spanish speaking european americans), so it doesn’t really work as a demonym. “Yankee” doesn’t really work, either, because it only applies to a subset of people from the US, so it’s similar to calling everyone from Great Britain “English”.

    I haven’t met any primarily English speaking residents of the americas with any problem with people from the US being called “american”.

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    We say “USA” for the country and “US-American” for the people. Those arrogantly misusing the name of the continent can get rekt.

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    we call them “estadunidense” which roughly translates to “usian”. usians tend not to like it.

    but, like, you call yourself after the entire continent, am i supposed to take it seriously?

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    Being a native, a Yankee to me is a New Englander. My Spanish friend had to gently explain to me, “shut up, you’re all yanquis.”

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      Being a native from The South, “Yankee” to me means anybody from the area above the Mason Dixon line. Full disclosure, I’m not proud to be from The South. However, I do find many Yankees to be at least a little bit strange. So, the designation stands in my head.

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      Given that you’re the native, you should gently explain to the colonial that they are the ones who are wrong.

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    In Brazil, we use USians or Statesians

    I used the second one on an academic paper and it went through.

    I NEVER use “American”, because

    America no es solo USA, papá esto es desde el Tierra del Fuego hasta el Canada

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      Thing is, it’s “United States of America”, much like “United States of Mexico” and, before 1968, “United States of Brazil”. So when they call themselves americans, they’re technically correct.

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      America no es solo USA

      Nah, we often call them Americans too, despite them being like Canada’s trousers. Many (most? I’m not certain) Canadians know how Americans label themselves abroad and are okay being a separate group to avoid bad impressions. “eres Americano? No; soy Canadiense” or so.

      But thanks for thinking of us. It’s great to be considered!

      I use ‘yank’ a lot; sometimes Tank, as I’ve got a Brit friend ;-)

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    Being from the USA, I can confidently say “Yankee” is a term that is fairly neutral in meaning. People from the South states use it to refer to basically any American not from the South, and I get the sense people from the UK use it to refer to anyone from the USA.

    In my experience, “Gringo” seems to be a term used by Spanish-speakers (even ones from North and South America) to refer to English speakers who think they’re better than everyone, so it appears to be a term with negative connotations

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      Texan here. Yankee is definitely not a neutral word to refer to everyone from the USA. Some people down here will fight you over it, but most would just give you a confused look.

      I’ve always understood gringo to mean white person, especially one who can’t speak Spanish. The term is sometimes used in Mexican restaurants to let the staff know that you can’t deal with too many jalapeños.

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          You’re god damn right we do.

          The shithead in golf shorts in line ahead of you at Publix bitching out the cashier for not thanking him for letting her help him? The one who left where he’s from because he didn’t like it there and then wants here to be like where he’s from? That’s a Yankee, quite likely a halfback.

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          I’m afraid so. There are a lot of people still fighting our Civil War, the one that supposedly ended over 150 years ago. Even without those troglodytes, there is a distinct cultural difference between the North and South, as I think there is in many countries. We tend to rub each other the wrong way sometimes.

          Old joke about the difference. Walk up to a Southerner’s house, and they say, “can I help you?” Walk up to a Yankee’s house, and it’s, “whaddya want?”

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        I’ve heard gringo is about language, primarily English (or another native tongue instead of Spanish). Not about being a whitey

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      In my experience (as a Brit), people generally only refer to Americans as Yanks in a mildly pejorative way or if we’re taking the piss, otherwise it’s Americans.

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      U.K. bloke here…I don’t use it personally, just because, but yeah we say it for anyone from the USA.

      When I was about 10 or so someone local to me had a lawsuit because his colleagues called him Yankee and he claimed it was racism, fairly certain he won, but it was an obscure case.

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    In the USA, Yankee refers to mainly northeast US, including the New York City area. Western Americans would be neutral about being called that and you might piss off some southerners.

    My exposure to the term gringo has mainly been that it refers to white Americans. I don’t know if you would call a black American gringo or how they would accept it.

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      Eh, NY has the Yankees sports team but they are not part of New England and I’d say a good portion of the country would say NY has no Yankees in it besides the team.

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    In America, yankee means people from a particular part of America. But we use it here in Australia to mean any American. It’s especially fun when people from the south (that is…the south of the country America, not from the continent of South America) take offence at the term IMO.

    We also use “seppo” which is an Australian shortening slang of “septic”, which is rhyming slang (of the kind used in both Australia and London, England) that comes via “septic tank” via “yank”.

    Gringo seems strange to me. I thought that was a predominantly Latin American term for white people, and would apply equally well to Americans as Canadians as Australians as (of particular relevance to someone from Spain) English…but only the white of each, so it would seem to me it shouldn’t work as synonymous with “American” because it excludes African Americans, Asian Americans, etc. But I’m not Spanish or Latin American, so I might just be misunderstanding the word.

    Edit: what yank means depending on where you are (allegedly):

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      Hispanic here, I grew up using “gringo” specifically for people from the U.S. despite skin tone.

      Canadians are “Canadiense”, English are “Ingles” but United States? “Estadounidense”? It’s sort of like saying “United Statian” but arguably more “correct/proper”

      Gringo is just much faster/easier to say.

      That being said this can vary a little from one Latin-American country to another.

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        Australian rhyming slang in this case, but yeah, it functions in much the same way as Cockney.

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    Burros como o caralho is Portuguese for USAians.

    It translates to something like dumb as fuck.