• StopTouchingYourPhone@lemmy.world
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    I schooled another man about my wife’s competence. A doctor’s a doctor! - title of this as a moderately upvoted repost on reddit with mostly positive, supportive comments

    Thank you to all the good men who defend their wives like DH did for me! We love you! - title of a less upvoted and commented on reddit repost the next day

    OP: My husband’s nazi coworker was blatantly sexist to me at a company dinner - “where do you live dumb cunt imma swat your house,” “men are people too, not everything is nazis, feminist bitch” brigade, “why are you dividing the movement for equality” Civilized Discussion and Debate, redditcares messages in her inbox

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    While hilarious…that’s what’s breed the rise of the shit show of anti-science. We can’t just call morons morons anymore. They go back to truth social, find all the other morons and pretend like they know better.

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      We need to be better at explaining to people what their education equates to. If you stopped taking hard sciences when you graduated high school you don’t have a good to great understanding of those subjects rather you have the absolute basic understanding.

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        What about me I’m not educated technically to anything beyond high school level education and even I understand that the Earth isn’t flat, time dilation is a thing, an atom doesn’t look like a small solar system, and perpetual motion machines are impossible.

        Mostly because I actually paid attention in science class.

        Also if the Earth wasn’t one centimeter closer to the sun we wouldn’t all burn up, but that’s based on simple observation that small hills exist.

        The key is not to be intentionally ignorant. These people aren’t stupid because they’re uninformed, they are stupid by choice.

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    Pride of Ignorance. Its something we should bully out of people. Nobody should be so proud to be so dumb. Its fine to be dumb, but nobody should revel in it.

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    There is nothing admirable about letting a fascist rant about hate and nonsense, while the ape of a host goes “never thought of it that way, interesting” while legitimizing the nonsense

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    Try being a woman and talking to a mechanic or anybody working at an auto parts store.

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      Legit, I’ve used why wife as a honest detector for mechanics, ended up finding a mechanic for life (he had the chance to quote us to replace half used brakes way too early and instead was honest and just blew the dust off for free, told us it wasn’t necessary)

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        When you find an honest mechanic, you gotta hold on to him tight. Bring him snacks and remember him on holidays. He is precious and rare.

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      i was more successful selling cars to women than men and it was because I presumed the person who told me they looked into multiple cars and chose this line actually knew what they wanted in that car.

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      I recently did. I didn’t realize she was a mechanic at first but it was a lovely conversation that touched heavily on being women in male dominated careers.

      But yes I fully agree

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    Joe Rogan, Shapiro, and j Peterson is what you called pseudo-intellectuals

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      The problem with this world is that a lot of people enjoy EVERYTHING on a surface level.

      I keep getting reminded of my “gamer” years when I played league of legends. When I started, I was clueless and bad. And I found a YouTube channel which made fun educational videos.

      Initially I learned a lot but over time, I realized how bad the advice was at times, which changed my consumption of the content. At the end, the content didn’t teach me anything and the suggestions of the creator seemed to be focused on messing with bad players and not actually playing good.

      I started to watch better players and learned more from them.

      To me, fans of these guys stopped at the first step. They want educational content but they don’t actually want to learn and so don’t actually think about the content and can’t outgrow it.

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        To me the problem is content vs entertainment.

        Joe Rogan has no content. He is not an expert, but somehow he is able to make the podcast, populated by morons, enjoyable by it’s audience. So if a person has to choose between Rogan, with a pseudoscientist in it, or a PhD, which is extremely prepared but does not know how to present his knowledge (either overcomplicated for the general masses, or plain boring), 90% of the people will watch Rogan.

        Going to your LoL: the most successful streamers where not the best players, but the pros who manage to keep the chat entertained.

        Another example are university professors: the most knowledgeable are usually not the best teachers, because knowing a subject and presenting it are two completely different skill sets.

        That’s the sad reality of today online content

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        Rogan, Peterson (and probably even Shapiro, I dunno) do give good info or advice once in awhile, but it’s not anything that you couldn’t get somewhere else without all of the baggage.

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          I agree. E.g. Peterson published a self-help book that was successfully marketed to young man, unlike most self-help books. And most self-help books are very replacement and often kinda bad

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        They grew up being told the answer and these guys specialize in telling people “the answer”. The issue is they are frequently providing the wrong answer.

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      Shapiro and Peterson both have post graduate degrees. Peterson actually taught at a university level. They are intellectuals they are also just wrong about many of their opinions

      Edit: I get hating benny shaps but this is easily verified

      “…He then attended Harvard Law School, where he studied under liberal law professors Lani Guinier and Randall Kennedy.[10][11] In 2007, Shapiro graduated from Harvard with a Juris Doctor, cum laude.[12]”

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Shapiro

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        Shapiro only has a B.A.
        Peterson is fully qualified to talk on psychological markers for alcoholism, and a broad range of clinical psychology, and not much else.
        They are both (educated) bullshit merchants, not intellectuals. Intellectuals are honest.

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            Meh, JD is an entry-level law qualification: “in Canada, it is considered a second-entry bachelor’s degree.” [Wikipedia] In any case, it’s a professional qualification, not an academic one.

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              That is absolutely incorrect. A JD is a juris doctorate and is considered a postgraduate degree in the United States. There are some places where law degrees are granted at the bachelor’s level, but not the US. You’re making the same mistake as the Rogan crowd here by looking at a surface level, single sentence from Wikipedia (which is referring to the Canadian system btw). The law degree itself is only “entry level” because JD holders have to pass a licensure exam (the "professional qualification) before they are allowed to be practicing attorneys. There are quite a few people who have law degrees, but don’t take the exam because they intend to use their law degrees in other ways.

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          Exactly. Peterson taught psychology at a university (and even the quality of his lectures have been brought into question, but we’ll ignore that), and that somehow makes him an authority to talk about global warming and how all climate scientists are wrong because you can’t model something like that, it makes him an authority to talk about the nazis and how Hitler was actually guided by the people as he spoke only what they reacted positively to, he’s also an authority on economics when he says how the famine in the Soviet Union was caused by the communists killing all the smart and disciplined farmers, etc etc.

          How can anyone seriously listen to a guy who said that women who complain about sexual harassment while wearing makeup are hypocrites is beyond me.

          This is nice read on the topic: https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2018/03/the-intellectual-we-deserve

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    One of the wisest things I’ve ever heard is “White people should be lucky that black people only want equality, revenge would be perfectly understandable at this point.”

    The more I learn about black history, as in the history of what white people have been doing to black people since the latter was dragged kicking and screaming to America, the more I appreciate the phrase. It’s honestly some of the most horrific shit I’ve ever had the displeasure of learning.

    And just to clarify. I’m not black, I’m a pale transchick from the 90’s who’s whiter than sour cream, I’ve seen Wayne’s World 69,420 times and it keeps getting funnier every time I see it.

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      You want to see a nation that has an even more horrible history? Look up the history of Haiti post slave rebellion. That’s a nation the USA and France owe trillions to.

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        One of my favorite books! It’s arguably what led to my radicalization.

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      Still doing it, even the Liberals who think they’re anti-Racist, because huge levels of discrimination on the basis of wealth and very low social mobility are core to preserving the oppression of the descendants of people such as freed slaves and inflicting on them the constante suffering which is a live of poverty in a Capitalist system:

      • When released, the slaves were poor compared to the rest and, because of being poor they and their children had to live in worse places, were not part of the landowner class and did not have access to the same opportinities as the rest (all the while the active discrimination on the color of their skin continued, making things worse). Fast forward to the modern days and whilst direct discrimination on the color of their skin is a lot less than a mere 50 years ago, you still have lots of Afro-Americans living in ghettos, oppressed via their poverty and with their children having far fewer opportunities to improve their lot in life than the rest.

      This is why the fight against Inequality must include fighting Wealth Inequality and Discrimination on the basis of Wealth: even if other kinds of inequality of treatment were magically eliminated tomorrow, Wealth Discrimination is by far the main mechanism of hurting those victims and their descendants (poor people live much more painful lives, from the quality of their dwellings and even the bed they sleep in, to that of their food and their personal safety, to the point that their Life Expectancy is a at least a decade less than rich people) and Wealth Inequality bakes in the past injustices (by denying the same opportunities to the descendants of those who are past victims of other kinds of discrimination, for example because poor neighbourhoods have worse schools and poored people don’t have the same access to universities when those institutions are private and have high attendance fees and non-meritocratic components to their selection process).

      In summary, people pushed down the Wealth scale (or never allowed to move up) by other kinds of Discrimination are inflicted pain and suffering via the mechanisms of Wealth Discrimination and their descendants are denied the same opportunities that others have to improve their lot in life by the very same mechanisms.

      In practice American Liberals are a mix of hypocrites and useful idiots because, whilst claiming to be against discrimination, they refuse to address the biggest one, which is the main pathway for inflicting life-long suffering to the victims of other kinds of widespread discrimination and for transmitting that status of victim down the generations long after the original kind of discrimination has lessened or even dissapeared.

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      Unpopular opinion: the massive African slave trade was only made possible because the coastal kingdoms of the continent (Mali, Benin, Dahomey, Mozambique, etc), saw a golden opportunity to gain goods and weapons they otherwise had no access to. The Europeans (and muslims, too, Oman was a big slave trading kingdom) obviously have their well deserved share of the responsibility, defending said kingdoms and for essentially turning the slave trade into an industry and a massacre, but don’t erase or ignore the Africans’ own responsibility in the process, because it was them who ventured into the continent to hunt and capture people to be sold at the ports.

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      Some people believe that they are taking just that, hence all the terror around Great Replacement theory, or the moral downfall of society because people aren’t partaking of mass in purest Latin.

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      And just to clarify. I’m not black, I’m a pale transchick from the 90’s who’s whiter than sour cream, I’ve seen Wayne’s World 69,420 times and it keeps getting funnier every time I see it.

      I’m sorry ma’am, you’re under arrest for excessive whiteness.

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      I’ve seen Wayne’s World 69,420 times and it keeps getting funnier every time I see it.

      That was hilariously random.

      Not.

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        It was clearly for levity, I don’t think they were trying out for the stand up stage.

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          Yeah well this was also weird because I had been just watching Wayne’s World clips before seeing that reply.

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    doctors can have really shit opinions too

    the real message is: every opinion must be scrutinized heavily, if it stands scrutiny maybe there’s something there

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      It depends on what they’re talking about. I’ll listen to and generally heed a doctors medical opinion, for example. Their political opinion? Eh…

      Joe Rogan, who has doesn’t have expertise in anything comparable to a doctors expertise in medicine, no way I’m talking anything he says at face value.

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        I wouldn’t trust a doctor’s opinion on medicine unless their PhD were in medicine. Most aren’t.

        I don’t consider MDs to be doctors.

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          Reading your comments, I can’t tell if you are trolling us, or if you really are this tarded?

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            That’s right. Physicians asked to have Doctor put in their names because they were tired of not being respected as much as real doctors, which is to say teachers.

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          You should look up what a PhD in Medicine is and how it’s not the same as an MD (Doctor of Medicine). Your user name couldn’t be further from the truth.

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            I already know a PhD in medicine is different to an MD, that’s why I wrote a comment that says one’s a doctor and one isn’t. Read my comment until you understand it.

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              You said an MD is not a doctor. They are. They are literally a MEDICAL DOCTOR. A PhD in medicine is really only gained as a dual doctoral degree and will then be MD-PhD. It combines the Medical knowledge of an MD with the more research driven knowledge of a PhD.

              In the Medical world an MD, is often called a physician. However Lemmy is not the medical world and for all intents and purposes a MD is a Doctor.

              You saying MD is not a Doctor is just making you look stupid.

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              Both are doctors… There are also theology doctors, juridical doctors, and so on.

              There is a difference between 1st and 3rd cycle doctorate though!

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      In my experience doctors can have some of the absolute worst opinions. Especially highly educated speciality doctors who have spent 1/3 of their life doing nothing but studying their very specific field. Lawyers too.

      I work in IT and they can be some of the worst users to work with.

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        Specialists are experts in their field. Much like many of the IT people they fall into the trap of “Im smart because my job requires it so therefore every opinion I have is intelligent” and that simply isn’t how it really works.

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        Honestly this is true of many smart people in specialized professions

        Infamously software developers are fucking knuckle dragging morons about anything that has nothing to do with what they’re good at, but they think they’re god kings and think the world works like a computer

        The only hallmark of intelligence I subscribe to is when someone just acknowledges they don’t know everything and listen. Everyone else is doom spiraling into thought terminating patterns while thinking they’re right

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          I like to make the distinction between competence and intelligence. There are some overlaps, but they are mostly distinct.

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      Always remember: The vaccines cause autism bullshit was started by a fully licensed doctor.

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    Neuroscientists? They just pump people with drugs to keep them dumb.

    Don’t trust them. If you want a brain doctor go to a psychologist.

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      Uhh, not sure if trolling or sarcasm, so.

      Neuroscientists aren’t medics (not all, not even the majority). They can’t pump you full of anything. Furthermore, if a psychologist detects that you need medication, they will refer you to a psychiatrist to prescribe you drugs. They’re not to make you dumb, they’re to prevent you from hurting yourself and others, and improve mood and cognitive function.

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        They pump your brain full of dyes and blast it with radiation and magnets! All in service of their ideology (empericism)

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          Knowing how shit actually works instead of blindly following your patriarch, the biggest sin of all.

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      Psychologist? They just pump your head full of ideas that there’s something wrong with you.

      Don’t trust them. If you want a brain doctor go to an astrologist.

      /s

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      I had to go see a neurologist to cure my headaches, not a psychiatrist. If it wasn’t for neuroscience, I’d still be having headaches 3-4 times a week.