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I swapped from calling for Biden to stay to calling for Biden to go once sitting Congresscritters spoke out in public asking him to step down, since the main advantage of incumbency is supposed to be the ability to preserve party unity, but I was still expecting a lot more “DEMS IN DISARRAY HOW CAN THEY EVER WIN” style narrative to take root. There’s still time for me to be disappointed, but as of right now I’m pleasantly surprised.

Yes

I’m not saying the USSR was responsible for the development of the Estonian economy,

Really? Because that rather sounds like what you’re saying with the comparison you make here

If the british had built comparable infrastructure in India as in the UK, if they had industrialized it,

But I don’t know why I expect consistency from red fash.

Please. Show me the data for that. Show me how exploited the Estonians were, how much lower their wages were than in the rest of the USSR. Spoiler alert: data contradicts your claims.

The second external strategy employed by the Soviet Union to rebuild its devastated economic infrastructure was the joint company. It became a ubiquitous institution in Eastern Europe. The joint company enabled the U.S.S.R. to extract resources and products from a region partially occupied militarily by the Soviet Army and completely reorganized by the Communist Party. So effective had the joint company and Soviet exploitation become that the economic world of Eastern Europe was turned upside down. Not only did the U.S.S.R. impose the goals of socialism and industrialism on essentially peasant societies, it altered the region’s traditional trade pattern that had focused on commerce with Central and Western Europe. By 1947, commerce flowed in the opposite direction as seventy-five percent of all Russian imports originated in Eastern Europe

But tell me more about how THIS form of market capture over vassalized states is TOTALLY different than the British Empire’s form of market capture over vassalized states /s

https://www.jstor.org/stable/24664533

During the past half-century, the Republic of Korea’s economy has shown impressive growth, with average annual GDP growth rate surpassing 7.1%, raising the level of real per capita GDP in international prices almost 26 times (Table 1). Average GDP growth rates accelerated to 7.5% in the 1960s, 8.6% in the 1970s, and 9.3% in the 1980s

https://www.adb.org/sites/default/files/publication/183353/adbi-wp571.pdf

Still no response for North Korea’s fantastic workers’ rights and democratic institutions, huh?

if they had industrialized it, if there had been no extraction of wealth, resources and of human labor

Fucking lol. Imagine claiming credit for developments of Estonia’s economy before you invaded, and then asserting that you caused that AND trying to sweep your own extraction of value under the rug.

Fascists never change, huh?

Colonialists use that excuse, I’m very aware, the difference is that they’re lying when they say it. Number of hospital beds per capita, salaries, number of teachers per capita, conservation of local language through language choice in education and written publications such as books or newspapers in the local language, industrialization of the area

Holy shit, literally “The British built schools hospitals in Africa” level colonization apologia. Jesus Christ. And tankies wonder why I don’t view them any differently than any other authoritarians.

The imaginary tankies you and PugJesus conjure up to whine about don’t count. Neither does anyone who disagrees with you, which your lot calls tankies but actually aren’t.

Oh, cool, so the people in this very comment section simping for North Korea and the Soviet Union and denying the Tiananmen Square massacre don’t count?

Fucking lol.

Oh, cool, so North Korea is behind because they didn’t implement a fascist government that pushed against workers’ rights and performed crackdowns against unions, applied protectionism to key industries, and welcomed foreign capital into those sectors?

Fucking lmao.

But sure, tell me how South Korea’s greatest periods of growth were definitely under the periods of dictatorship and military junta and not the democratic period that resulted in reaction to that.

lol

No response for the capitalist hellhole of South Korea, I see.

and 2000 years ago Roman soldiers were paid with cocaine.

Goddammit, reject modernity, return to tradition! What a golden age!

It was because we abandoned the Kurds. Mattis felt very strongly on the matter. He also went to bat for transgender service members.

Huh, it’s almost like “BUT MUH OIL” has been an easy refrain of people with a simplified view of world politics for decades now, even when it’s not actually relevant

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@Crow_Thief reason: misinformation

It would probably be better for the country if he went full Dark Brandon…

… but it would be funnier if he went Diamond Joe. Just no fucks, breaking the law for petty shit with total immunity because “That’s what I was born to do man, even Johnny Law thinks so”

I’m sure they did, considering the uprising during the Arab Spring against Assad’s murderous regime. But I never took you as an advocate for US interventionism!

How cute that you always have an excuse for why life under your favorite regimes that actually follow your ideal policies instead of departing from ML orthodoxy is always so dog shite, without exception. Almost like MLs are just fascists searching for excuses to brutalize the proletariat.

stop doing that to cuba btw, its starting to stink. if socialism were so bad i think you could let them fail fair and square, and show us how bad it actually is, no?

Sure. I’ve been an opponent of sanctions on Cuba for years. Btw, you want to remind me how many capitalist countries are sanctioning Cuba right now? I always lose track.

Hillary Clinton, the boogeyman, also supports lifting sanctions, I suppose since she’s such a good socialist?

Also, if the ML systems you so adore can’t operate without being subsidized by capitalism, aren’t they really just extensions of capitalist regimes?

if we are talking about heavily propagandized policies enacted 100 years ago to try and curb imperialism,

“You don’t understand, they HAD to gun down people for trying to escape our Socialist Paradise, or else Imperialism would win!”

Impressive.

Thanks for being utterly unable to contradict any of the points brought up that disprove your half-hearted attempt to defend the massacres of your favorite fascist states.

the us is the very last country that can talk about machine gunnings, because they were the ones sponsoring most of it through all of recent history, including and especially in the socialist countries you seem to hate so hard for… doing just that?

Cool, so you can back up the part where we were supposedly machine-gunning our own citizens to stop them from fleeing this capitalist hellhole, right? Since that was the topic brought up?

Oh, wait, of course you can’t.

americans and the brits did full on scorched earth in vietnam and china, and nowadays they have healthcare while you are still shooting up kids in schools.

Oh, of course, having healthcare now justifies all of your fascist regime’s atrocities. By the way, would you like to elaborate on the economic systems of China and Vietnam in the modern day? You know, now that they have healthcare? Just curious.

Also, when did the Brits do ‘full on scorched earth’ in China? 1901?

It’s a common English saying, “Is the X in the room with us right now”, implying that the other person is crazy or paranoid. Not specific to tankies or their apologists.

Oh, cool, you wanna compare nutrition statistics between North and South Korea? I’m sure this will back you up about how terrible the capitalist hellhole of South Korea is!