DHS does not deny strong-arming tourist into letting them into his phone, only that agents sent him home because of a meme
The story circulating online — first in Norwegian newspaper Nordlys and then picked up by British tabloids — claims that during Mikkelsen’s encounter with the Department of Homeland Security, agents took his phone and found a meme depicting Vance as a bloated, smooth, bald man staring off into the distance.
Mikkelsen claims that the officials threatened to fine him $5,000 or send him to prison for five years if he refused to provide them with his phone password. The tourist ultimately agreed to hand over his information, allowing agents to look through his phone.
The reports picked up enough steam in headlines and on social media to justify CBP putting out a statement denying parts of the story.
Wait… Lemme (ha!) get this straight…
If they want to search your phone or any electronic device when entering the US and you refuse, you get fined 5000$ and get a 5 years prison sentence???
They don’t just deny you entry and send you back?
Remember kids, law enforcement of any kind is legally allowed to lie to you directly without consequence. Call their bluff, every time.
They lied and no one cares apparently
The CBP is basically an unchained lunatic with a credit card and access to unthinkable networks of treachery. We are no longer living in a time when these rules matter. Judges order are explicitly being ignored, and the Supreme Court is batting away any attempt to even disarm the lunatic.
That’s because US customs and the TSA is not and should not be taken seriously, and they’re known to lie about pretty much everything, constantly.
If they ever make a statement, about anything, you can safely assume that the opposite is the actual truth of what they claim.
When prisons are for-profit –
Well, the times when the US was a reasonable and just country are long past.
People keep acting like this is new, it’s been like this since 9/11…
If they “suspect” someone, they don’t want to just let them walk away if they’re right.
So if you don’t comply, they assume the worse and detain you and throw some trumped up charges about obstructing. But they don’t even have to do that, they literally can (and likely have) ship you straight to Gitmo for life. Hell, cops even make these kinds of threats to US citizens during traffic stops. Law enforcement has been able to just make wild threats to get people to comply for like, forever
Silver lining at least, people are finally realizing this is an insane process and hopefully it’s one of the things we get to fix.
Because we sure as shit can’t just spend four years discussing if we need to limit all these govermental powers that have been racking up again. If we get the chance to fix shit we have to actually fix it.
Haha, man. People have already forgotten that these were temporary measures after 9/11
Shifting baselines. It makes me wonder if people in the bad old times of monarchy might have actually been more free than we are now.
Be sure, they were not
Im curious what freedoms you think you have?
Like, a lot? Probably more or less same as you, surely
Just being able to move, own stuff, save my work for the future and be free to speak my mind without coercion are huge boons
And to do so efficiently without so much physical work or being afraid for my life every second is a bless
But my freedom is not absolute, you surely understand
I wouldn’t say so, it was just different: previously we had sovereign monarchy where people were subjected to violence, now we have disciplinary society with much less violence
That’s the conventional wisdom. But the power of the state was so much weaker back then.
Don’t bring your regular phone when traveling to countries like China or the US
Have you been to China? They do none of this shit. They don’t gaf about your phone.
This is how I’ve always done it. If anyone asks, say you just bought the device.
Me, nervously holding my 5 year-old phone: Oh, this old thing? I just bought it.
You’re lucky if you don’t get disappeared to a Central American gulag.