i wonder what y’all have to say about this
Literally what I think would happen if I disappeared. This is kinda a dangerous post for people with suicidal ideation.
I’ve been watching Mr Rogers lately since I have a young kid now and I think thats the way to act. Even people he might disagree with he would have a chill discussion and respect their opinion, just letting them vent their problems.
I commented some of this in response to a popular comment below, but since you asked for general impressions:
I take this as an anti-natalist statement. Anti-natalism has some implications of nihilism for those already born, which is to say: If I think it’s unethical or wrong to have children, due to the suffering inherent in living a life (or caused by the negative externalities of reproducing), does that logically imply that I must blame my own parents for my conception, and wish never to have existed? (though not, necessarily to end my own life, of course, as that would bring further suffering)
If we are not going to be nihilist, and instead choose a more utilitarian approach with a cost-benefit analysis, to what extent does the added value of reproduction (from your effect on the future increasing through genetic propagation, fulfilled biological imperative, and any derived joy from interaction with the birthed individual) outweigh the potential loss of quality-adjusted life years from health implications of reproduction (especially for the mothers)? Is the risk of negative outcomes high enough to resolve not to reproduce?
Kids cause pattern hair loss?
Stress.
Just need a bit of DHT inhibitor, which is cheap because its out of patent.
The guy miraculously cured male-pattern balding?
I think stress may be a factor in losing your hair
Win win win, I’d prevent my birth if I could
Hairy arms liek a cactus on that guy…
Thats extremely unhelpful and even harmful for many people
Trigger warning: depression
I personally have depression and have been through horrible things before I even turned 18. So yeah if you told me when I was 15 or 16 that eveyone around be would be significantly happier and better off with me not around I would genuenly consider jumping off a bridge.
I definitely see your point, though I took this as an anti-natalist joke, not a refutation of “It’s a Wonderful Life”.
I’m inclined to wonder at what point the arguments of anti-natalism must be weighed against the nihilistic implications on those already born?
Me too, and I agree it would have had a negative effect when I was at a vulnerable stage way back then.
Now that I’m a grisly old bastard, and a parent, I found it funny af.
So, mixed feelings.
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I get that pregnancy may embiggen your ass, but that is not where I’d be checking for stretch marks…
ngl that post is rather toxic
There’s a suicidal way of thinking that when you are gone everyone will be better off. I think the comic could contribute to that thinking, but maybe it’s meant to be a satirical rebuttal to that thinking instead.
Poe’s Law
maybe it’s meant to be a satirical rebuttal to that thinking instead
I don’t see that. If it’s satire it’s pretty harmful and ineffective
I think the satire is to via hyperbole. My suicidal episodes did not make be think money would instantly appear in hand / in bank accounts, just that moving forward I would be no longer be a resource burden. This comic takes the results beyond reality to show how unreasonable even realistic expectations might be. (?)
That’s my best defense of the satirical intent. The initial impression I got from the comic was not the satirical one; it did feel “toxic”, or at least a like a mean-spirited (not funny) “be careful what you wish for”.
I feel like anybody stuck in that state of mind would likely fail to see the satire in it.
I’m startimg to think that’s the point.
Wait till they get into puberty.
Yep, parental puberty is a terrifying phase.
i had one of those my self, and i was very stupid and anoying during that, that dosent mean my parents want me gone wtf
Uh, isn’t it the kid saying they wish they were never born?
This comic might not be about you personally
What? But I’m the main character. Everything is about me personally.
If you can’t trust a cobra chicken on the topic of being toxic, whom can you trust?
In case you missed the origin story:
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I did miss it, thank you for the enlightenment!
Maybe don’t constantly tell your 13 year old to get a job if they want something, then sabotage any attempt they make at getting a job?
Maybe don’t have a kid so you have something resembling a proto-personality beyond self absorbed narcissism.
Don’t expect a kid to fix a failing marriage.
sometimes the kid saying that is a little shit. Sometimes it is the parents that are the problem.
Yup. In my opinion if you want to have a child, the only reason should be to raise a better person than you or your spouse could be, and provide them with a better life than you had, enriching your life in the process. If you have a kid for any other reason, it’s out of selfishness
i wonder what y’all have to say about this
Here’s what I have to say…oOof
Not me about to make a wish
If I was never born I wouldn’t be alive and I wouldn’t have to kill myself. Truly the best of both worlds.
Truly though - What’s more life-affirming than showing contempt for your parents’ presumption to drag you from the void? It shows you’ve really weighed your options and decided to stay and bitch.
Adolescents and younger teens aren’t really know for their introspection, I kind of give them a pass for saying that stuff at that stage in their life. At that age, lots of us learn how stupid something is only when we hear it coming out of our own mouths. It becomes really cringe though when they graduate into adulthood and they’re still saying that or holding that opinion. At that point even their peers are given them the side eye or saying something like “dude, that doesn’t fly anymore. Get your shit together”.
Hard disagree, from a 30-something. Two horny people fucked with no protection and now I’m expected to get an education, find and hold employment, be self-sufficient, and be fucking grateful for being forced to do this shit? And all of their inabilities to parent properly, leading to near-debilitating anxiety and stress, is somehow my fault? That I should cater to the two idiots that couldn’t take a pill or unwrap a damn condom, because they want a mini-me? That I should blindly follow their religious views, of - again - two people that decided that momentary pleasure was better than lifelong calm and stability, for themselves and others? Two people who want to dictate what I like, what I’m interested in, my political viewpoint, my sexual preferences…? Two idiots that decided that mixing the worst part of one’s DNA with the worst part of the other is a wonderful thing to do, and the visual issues of one, the deep constant anxiety of another, the risk factors of cancer and stroke, would be a delightful thing to impose on a new being. And I should fucking be HAPPY about this?! Are you FUCKING SHITTING ME?
Sincerely, a disabled gay satanic furry - with another disabled sibling (let’s do it again!) - who was raised straight and christian and then manipulated and controlled, who is already plagued with health concerns, mental health issues, and had their first stroke at 21 years old. Everybody should freely fuck, it’s great!
(To say ‘I wish I was never born’ is such an understatement it’s actually hilarious.)
I’m not saying I regret being born, but I certainly plan on making a suicide device.
My only fear is we don’t stay dead.
Look, as the world’s dumbest man you might not realize this but there are lots of suicide devices already on the market or even better free alternatives!
Why not try a skyscraper? Perhaps wading into a cold ocean and never coming back? You could drive a car into a tree?
Just trying to save you some time and frustration, plus a few bucks too!
…uh seriously though if you want to talk to someone feel free to dm me. Your life has value and I do hope you come to realize this and try your best to find some enjoyment in this world of ours. Of course, I say that as someone who has described life as being “trapped by existence” so I can kind of get what you’re feeling. Hang in there, not literally though because tying a noose right can be hard.
Why not try a skyscraper? Perhaps wading into a cold ocean and never coming back? You could drive a car into a tree?
Two of those tend to leave a mess behind for other people to clear up, and the other seems like a fairly prolonged, unpleasant way to go.
The ocean and the skyscraper both have horror stories aplenty for the dead coming back. In one, you ooze from the dark places, foul, rotting; and in the other you crawl out of the depths, bloated, fetid, teeming with the spawn of crabs and sea horses.
The car one might just be walking corpse.
Had a neighbor who worked for the Coast Guard. They said every body they fished out of the sea had crabs spilling out of its mouth and anus once it hit the deck.
I don’t have it as bad as you, but every day I wonder why my parents had me.
Except I know why, and it disgusts me. No consideration to what I would feel because they wanted another kid.Well, there was no way to ask you, right? Some people like their lives, perhaps they hoped you’d enjoy it?
Yeah I get the gist of it. But I know the real reason for my birth and it’s not purely altruistic.
I’m not saying this to belittle your situation, I have honest sympathy for you (and your sibling), but at some point in an adult’s life, no matter how you were raised or what fucked up things your parents did, it has to stop being a excuse for the present day situation. Keep in mind, I’m not saying that’s what you’re saying here. I’m explaining further my prior post, not dismissing your response.
Hypothetically if an abusive parent cut off the legs of their child, the resulting adult will always be legless, but that can’t be the reason the (now adult) still uses as to why they don’t move forward with whatever life they have left.
at some point in an adult’s life, no matter how you were raised or what fucked up things your parents did, it has to stop being a excuse
I see where you are coming from, but when going through shit yourself that you can’t explain to others, the only thing I can say is “that’s easy to to say, not to feel”
but when going through shit yourself that you can’t explain to others, the only thing I can say is “that’s easy to to say, not to feel”
Thats the point to reach for professional help, as in therapy. We’re not born equipped to deal with all the shit life can throw as us. There’s no shame in that.
The problem is not reaching out for help as an adult when you need it.
Therapy doesn’t magically fix things.
I’m in therapy, have been for years. Had a virtual appointment with mine this morning.
I went to the psych ward last month bc I was actually about to kms, switched antidepressants and I’m on 3x the average doce and a bonus as needed one.
Still doesn’t help enough to make me feel close to normal.
Thats really good! I’m proud of you for taking action for your own health. You’re proving my point though. You didn’t let whatever your parents did to you hold you back from taking steps on your own. You aren’t using how your parents raised you as an excuse to do nothing.
I want to say I’m glad you didn’t go through with that negative thing you mentioned. The world is better with you in it. I know I’m no one to you, but you’ve made my life better by talking with me here and sharing a human moment. I want you to be here for all the other people you touch positively in the years ahead. Please be here for that.
Surely hope your child won’t happen to be depressed or traumatized in some way. That would be really cringe after all. 😑
Surely hope your child won’t happen to be depressed or traumatized in some way.
We’re not talking about “in some way” here. The piece you’re clearly responding to is my point we’re talking about how some adults use how their parents treated them as children as a continuing excuse for inaction in adulthood. We’re safe though. I have no children and won’t be having any.
Bruh
Not untrue, but also the parents are shitty for not being responsible for making their child happy. Like… going by this thinking, a lot of people should just murder their parents and inheret everything.
