Edit: because a few comments make me worry that some are taking this seriously - this meme is a play on the type of hopeless dating posts you might find in less healthy corners of the internet. The joke is a suggestion that the real problem is that one man in the image has some sort of arrow-attracting superpower.
Damn, people just straight-up don’t care about the content of an image if they see an opportunity to go on a tangent.
I wonder how ridiculous you have to make the text- paired with a pictograph of a problematic take like the original for this one- before people realize it’s not actually repeating the original sentiment or even saying anything at all
Society is borked in many ways, and dating sites often reinforce this with their policies.
The Wikipedia article about online dating tells that typical (I assume: card stack, like / dislike) dating sites cause different genders to adopt different strategies:
Men liked a large proportion of the profiles they viewed, but received returning likes only 0.6% of the time; women were much more selective but received matches 10% of the time. Men received matches at a much slower rate than women. Once they received a match, women were far more likely than men to send a message, 21% compared to 7%, but they took more time before doing so.
By sending out questionnaires to frequent Tinder users, the researchers discovered that the reason why men tended to like a large proportion of the women they saw was to increase their chances of getting a match. This led to a feedback loop in which men liked more and more of the profiles they saw while women could afford to be even more selective in liking profiles because of a greater probability of a match.[15]
P.S.
My biggest peeve is that the monopolist Match Group (runs Tinder, bought and ruined OkCupid, etc) and its nearest competitor Bumble have both adopted a card stack system that makes searching impossible. They also won’t display any statistics to a user about the number of people who saw their profile - keeping their customer in perfect darkness.
In most fields of life, a customer would not be satisfied with this kind of shit. A company advertising their product would demand instant feedback about the number and profile of people who viewed their ad, where they came from, how long they browsed, etc.
Basically, we are all getting scammed by a few monopolists, who are actively ruining people’s ability to find partners. I would support a politician who promises to let the best university in the country to build a non-profit dating site.
What is okcupid like nowadays? I found a partner there like 7 years ago and out of all the dating sites I’ve tried, it was the best by a good margin.
It no longer respects geographical preferences. Here in Estonia, if you go on OkCupid from Tallinn, you see about 30 Finnish people from Helsinki (across the sea, 80 km away) before you encounter a local (you also get 30 likes from Central Africa and South-East Asia).
It also has the card stack system now.
The question system remains and remains helpful, just the rest is broken.
Oh come on the lack of a stack system was such a positive. I loved how I could look over all profiles around me, see who managed to write more than 10 words about themselves and just send them a message. I guess that system just worked to well, I never felt the need to pay for anything
“Take the ferry from Helsinki and bring me some long drink.”
Dating shouldn’t be monetized. Even sending messages often requires a subscription. You’ll also notice these dating app companies own several products, like the Match Group. They buy up competitors or spam out the same software under different names with a marketing campaign to try to get people to join. Then they restrict features and charge more to maintain their position. That’s without even getting to all the data they collect and sale while also charging you a subscription. Just imagine talking to someone you want to date in real life and having a middle man come up and say, if you want to talk to them you need to give me $20 a month. All the “science” they use to connect people is just bullshit too.
If dating apps worked, they wouldn’t really “work” under capitalism - you’d find someone, cancel the subscription and move on.
The only really exception is if you focus on hookups or polyamory, but het cis women tend to risk a lot more on hookups (at bare minimum pregnancy and side effects related to whatever precautions are being used to prevent it), so they aren’t going to seek them out and they tend to get flooded with low quality messages anyway.
No matter what your age, race, gender, sex, size, you can always find a man willing to put their dick inside your orifices. Grindr works so well because it’s basically just old school cruising culture with extra frills. Match Group uses it’s monopoly to impose a dating culture that doesn’t really match with how het people form relationships.
I love those edits
now THIS is a proper repurposing of that stupid incel diagram! xD
Too late. He was already immortal.
Is this the Lord Ruler? Thought he was supposed to look a little older, tho not much.
That’s the thing with the Lord Ruler, he looks however old he wants to look
“In doing this, you’ve awakened my dormant power. Convenient but inconsistent tissue regeneration!”
Silco ?
This is absolutely how online dating goes. There have been studies that show women always go for the most attractive guys on the site, despite whatever BS they might claim.
Real life, not necessarily.
A more detailed description:
Provided a card stack system, the dynamic balance of liking vs. skipping tends to stabilize into a state where men like everyone reasonably cute (“to get more chances”). This is also caused by their inability search for a conversation partner in a rational manner, because it’s a card stack system. Often enough, all the information you have is a photo, age and city.
This causes women to experience a saturation of likes: everyone likes them. This causes them to be extremely picky about who they like back.
The result: unbalance. Dating sites view women as a “resource” to attract men, and men as customers to be scammed out of money to actually show their profile to someone, once in a while.
There was a blog by the creator of OKcupid, which was available on the site, that laid all this out pretty clearly. Something like 80% of the women were after 20% of the men, or perhaps it was even worse than that.
Women also, on average, rated men something like 1.5/5, whereas the average for men rating women was almost exactly 3/5.
It was a pretty depressing read actually.
You have to also look at the fact that men outnumber women on the app overall. It’s about 65% men, so women are going to have a bigger pool to reject from. And while it is true that women rate men less attractive, they also put less value on their apperence overall as a factor in dating. It also came out that this was based off of first glance only with no review of the profiles attached to them and, when looking at overall trends, it’s more even, (outside of men tending to like young women regardless of their age).
I think the okcupid data also went on about how certain races get more or less attention as well. At the end of the day, both sides can be picky. I think people like to push that data to help with the “80/20” idea to help push this idea that men are now being unfairly judged in comparison to women to help with the gender war narrative.
Edit: Just wanted to add that I don’t think that means dating isn’t hard for men, but I just don’t believe dating websites to be a reflection of real life.
The racial data was also fascinating, Asian men and black women were shit outta luck, from memory.
This says more about how women are socially pressured to wear make up, dress well, wax, and de-age themselves or risk being labeled as ‘unwomanly’ or become irrelevant.
How many men do you know feel pressured to put the same effort into their appearances as the average woman does?
And don’t tell me how working out counts. One, there are zero health benefits to putting on make up. Two, women are incessantly reminded about losing weight rather than just be healthy whether it’s from the media, advertisements, or just people using ‘fat’ as an insult especially for middle aged women.
How often do you hear old women being complimented on their appearances compared to old men? Forget about appearances, how often are they relevant in conversations? Invisible Woman Syndrome is almost like a super power.
This is like the opposite of when people complain that when ever anyone tries to talk about women issues, men have to suddenly make it about them. I don’t know why this has to be a zero sum event here.
No, it’s like that irl too. I’m in a dance community and women are routinely all hooking up with the same handful of guys, and then being shocked that they’re not the only one booking up with that guy. It was like that in yoga when I was in yoga too
I should start doing yoga
Have you tried not being unattractive?
And if you insist on being unattractive, then have you tried being rich?
No like I should just start doing yoga. Not trying to rock a codpiece over here.
I just wear the biggest penis gourd I can manage to fit on.
If I do enough yoga, two birds, one stone.
But what’s attractive is very subjective especially for women. Yes there are some general things being somewhat fit, decent hygiene, symmetrical proportions but there are plenty of studies that show women find the same man with a wide range of attractiveness vs men who have a much more narrow and agreed upon what is attractive. One thing that’s more consistent is appearance of wealth makes men more attractive to most women.
Men are valued for their wealth.
Women are valued for their youth.
It’s brutal but that’s the general rule of attractiveness.
Men are also valued for their looks. That guy that got a modeling deal right out of prison because women were swooning over him comes to mind.
I see you missed the word “general.”
Bah! The slaverunner society’s rules get in the way of everything.
They would not be after wealth if it was evenly distributed!
Same for youth I suppose…
I suspect that women have dual mode sexual selection: Either dad material then attractiveness doesn’t matter as much as stable personality and material conditions, or someone with attractive exceptional genes. Meanwhile men will only judge by attractiveness but men (including the attractive ones) will still fuck anything.
Basically game theory and the structure of dating apps makes women only be able to select for the first criteria.
Sperm retention 😭
Pro tip: Become Leonidas
and what, fight in the shade?
I would definitely not want to fight in the sun, so it makes sense to me.
Ah I was gonna say Boromir. :p
Most people’s problems are shit profiles and bad swiping.
Find/take good photos. I used photofeeler to test my photos and it helped.
Have a decent short bio that has something the girl can bring up. Mine was my hatred of mayo, almost all my matches brought it up as a discussion point. On Bumble it was most often the ice breaker.
Don’t swipe right on the 8/9/10s that you have zero chance at. If a girl out of your range has a profile that describes you sure swipe right otherwise don’t swipe on girls you have zero shot with. It messes your algorithm up. If you want to fantasize about hot chicks look at porn otherwise be honest about what you bring to the table and swipe in your realistic range. If you’re a 3 a 5 should be your 10.
Advice from a decent looking (but def not hot) slightly overweight at times person, who got my fair share of dates, some hookups, and some girlfriends from online dating in a smallish dating pool.
Met my wife randomly through a coworker 🤷♂️.
Most people’s problems are shit profiles and bad swiping.
Most people’s problem is they do online dating.
When all your friends are in one circle and all are married and you don’t go to bars or the gym it’s better than nothing. I enjoyed it for the most part, definitely got laid more often.
In the short stint that I bothered trying to use a dating app I just swiped right on people I was attracted to and seemed compatible based on their bio.
If I wasn’t physically attracted to them it wouldn’t work anyway so IDK why I’d want to waste my time???
But yeah I gave up not because of the swiping/algo but because in a few cases people misrepresented themselves or were overly vague in their bios. In one case someone swiped right on me but then changed their mind because the reread my bio (read the fucking bio in the first place people) or in one case we had made plans to hook up and so I kind of got busy and stopped messaging them for a few days, they messaged me annoyed that I was not showering them in consistent attention and disconnected.
After that I was like, online dating sucks fuck this, and uninstalled.
If you’re an average guy tempted to believe this, allow me, as an average guy who gets plenty of women, to tell you how it works. You are the one with the arrows, but if you don’t shoot your shot, out of fear of rejection, you’re never going to get what you want. So get out there and start shooting your shot.
Straight up, the best living proof of this I’ve ever seen was a fifty-odd year old co-worker whose face looked like if you stuck Don Knotts’ face in a microwave/centrifuge combination for about 45 seconds. Dude had teeth poking out forward at near right angles. He pulled so much fucking tail, it was a constant problem at work. Incels refuse to believe me when I tell them about it, but, just, shit, idk what you want me to say, this quasi modo ass dude had game, so what’s your excuse?
Fucking same, man. Guy I used to work with was 57, alcoholic, had like 3 teeth left, bad attitude, the works. Looked like a man-rat hybrid had been drinking moonshine and gasoline for two centuries. Brought a new woman home from the bars at least once a week. Some of them half his age. I know he wasn’t rich either because I’d been to his house before and I occasionally had to lend him some cash, so it’s not like he was flexing with money.
I got to actually hear him put the moves on somebody once and I don’t remember his opener but I shit you not his winning line was “Yeah I tell ya, I’m hung like a pimple but I’ve had some good practice with it, wanna come see?” and a little wink and I swear on my ancestors it fucking worked, it’s insane, I thought I was having a stroke.
Yeah, same with my dude, he wasn’t rich either, but I heard him lay it on thick one time and it was like I was suddenly filming for Nat geo, and I don’t mean that in a gross way. It was more like watching a ritual that was completely foreign to me, like I was bearing witness to lost knowledge. He was a supervisor, and I tell you, I never saw him write anyone up ever, but everyone would bend over backwards for him because he was just a super likable dude.
An average guy who shoots his shot is practically already above average. Most don’t shoot their shot, or very very timidly with maximum safety
Yep, it’s an easy win for the average guy. But most won’t do it because they’re afraid of rejection.
Or is it because we’ve been told that women are sick of being hit on all the time?
And thus, we are afraid of rejection.
You’re right that women are sick of being hit on all the time. But I’ll let you in on a secret: it’s not the expression of interest that annoys women, it’s when dudes ignore the cues that they’re not interested and continue anyway, or can’t take no for an answer. Basically, women are sick of guys who don’t pay attention to their boundaries and can’t take rejection. But I guarantee you, women are just as horny as men, and love getting attention from a man who is aware of their boundaries and who won’t push when they express a boundary.
This doesn’t make any sense. So we should ignore the cues that they’re not interested and take our shot anyway, even though men ignoring signs of disinterest is annoying, and they love getting attention from men who pay heed to their boundaries when the boundary is not wanting our attention? Or should we take no for an answer and handle rejection gracefully by not hitting on them when they’re not interested, because that’s the proper way to hit on women?
Let me simplify it for you: pay attention to social cues. It’s not hard.
That last one is a complete lie. It absolutly is hard. Especially with the complete lack of proper communication skills most women display. Seriously, a lot of women consider “looking at you” maximum flirting effort. Except of course when they aren’t and are just randomly looking in your direction.
So which is it? Pay attention to social cues, or ignore them and take a shot anyway?
It’s the expression of interest by unattractive people that is annoying. Continuing past cues of disinterest is one of the most unattractive things you can do.
But often the person is perfectly attractive, it’s just that the person they are hitting on is not interested and they don’t take the hint. For example, as a straight man, I often get hit on by gay men. They’re perfectly attractive men, it’s just that I don’t like men, and it has nothing to do with them being unattractive. I don’t mind when a gay man expresses interest as long as he respects me saying that I’m not interested. It’s when he continues to push, and ignores my closed body language and short answers, or outright dismisses my “no thanks”, that’s when it becomes uncomfortable, and that’s what women are sick of too.
… did you read my comment? “Continuing past cues of disinterest is one of the most unattractive things you can do.”
Behavior is part of attractiveness, it’s not only physical.
I remember hitting puberty and realizing most of the guys had crushes on the same three or four basic makeup pasted fake ass girls so….sure whatever you say
As a guy I can assure you this isn’t true.
Found the femcel
So, you were surprised when boys who were just hitting puberty were interested in the girls who were actually flirting with them??
Or girls who put some effort into their appearance? Fuck those whores trying to look attractive am I right?!
Why so hurt? The point is that it works both ways, that’s all. Perhaps you’re into more makeup and she finds it fake. It’s ok either way.
Because “basic makeup pasted fake ass girls” are also people, they don’t deserve any more hate or dislike than anyone else based on this alone. It can not be your type, but the original person talking about this obviously had a relatively intense dislike/resentment.
I’m a guy, and I’m upset at “basic makeup pasted fake girls”. I don’t know why.
Ass. Don’t forget the fake ass.
Yeah! It’s not fair that her ass is bigger than mine! Fuck you Jenny!
Even now, I regret rejecting a girl outright because I feel like a jerk.
Nof because there was any chance that would work out.
my dude if this were to be true we would experience total population collapse
I mean, good meme but no, wouldn’t it need to be the inverse to cause this?
good point but I imagined this one guy does not impregnate all of these women but it is of course possible to go full Elon Musk if he thinks he is destined to save humanity
Because men can only get one woman pregnant, as the Bible told me.
if you have the energy to look after 10+ kids be my guest
That’s the neat part, I won’t be around in six months
Interesting thing to say, considering population collapse is a huge concern for most countries right now.
It’s not really. Worldwide population is still growing. Countries which are simultaneously highly developed and not incentivizing child birth have low birth rates.
We’ll see, bet I’m right in the end.
Countries which are simultaneously highly developed and not incentivizing child birth have low birth rates.
That is literally the entirety of the developed world. China as well is/will be now experiencing a rapid population decline as its birth rate drops drastically. The only developed countries with anything close to a sustainable population growth are those that have a lot of immigration, but that isn’t a viable fix forever (at some point the countries that are sources of immigrants will become developed themselves and have the same problems), and typically only first generation immigrants have more children than natives.
You said it first. The irony of OPs comment lol.
Children of
MenGuy
Delete all the text and this diagram looks like:
One male medieval era soldier fighting for an oppressive patriarchy, in a battle where his fellow soldiers surrendered after realizing they are the baddies, surrounded by an army of women-only skilled archers fighting for egalitarianism.
they just killed a random innocent dude though :(
welcome to everyone joining us from /r/incel (is that still a thing, even?)
The only choice is to be totally out of the dating game so completely that you have no idea what any of this even mean.
Me going about my hermit ways living in the forest without interacting with anyone 😌
Ohhhhh hello very distant neighbor. We do live in the same settings except that I live with my cat.
Hellooo. Hope we can trade some cabbages if the need arises. I’ve been thinking hard about getting a pet and would like to have a cat as the number one on the list.
Oh you shooooouuuld! Animal’s company seem to push me further into hermithood though.
I went heavy handed on potatoes and radishes this year but no cabbage yet. Not too late though, I’ll keep some for you if I manage to grow some
That sounds great. I’ve thought about a getting a rabbit too, but I’m not sure yet.
I managed to have some strawberries which survived long enough and were not bad. But it seems dead now. Still got some herbs like parsley. Herbs are hard to keep 🥲.
He was just asking for it, look at the way his knees were dressed
