I mean, that’s still a lot of extra cost and red tape, and the guys sewing labels will eventually start sewing everything else.

It rarely adds 200%, though. At 125% the talking head were already saying the US was in effective embargo territory, so it is kind of meaningless.

Once again I miss competence. Just - plain old competence. Knowing a goddamned thing.

Unfuckingbelievable we’re here again. The fucker almost wiped out the planet last time with a virus. Gotta give him another at-bat eh? Fucking idiots.

In Trump’s defense, its easier to shove a turd through the round hole than a square peg. Especially if it’s liquid McD’s turds.

Brazil

wow i WISH we were doing any kind of significant manufacturing here.

do you know where someone could acquire those higher end products through other channels? some Chinese or other website selling quality products for cheaper than the brands but still for a profit for them?

The AI slop machine got Trump’s name right, but whiffed entirely on the author of the book.

wow grandma you look really different than I remember you!

gtfo with your AI slop

That elected a 34 times convicted felon. I’m not sure why anyone is surprised anymore.

the trump voters largely do not want positive, they want big negatives for everyone else and are willing to accept negatives for themselves to get it

What makes you think that they do? I imagine the biggest beneficiaries of this whole thing is a somewhat longer runway until Russian and Chinese demographic collapse.

Because when the masses are robbed of a stable living and basic dignity, and when faith in institutions collapse in a society that puts everything on faith in institutions, coupled with an education system that isn’t built for intelligence and critical thinking but instead for indoctrination and farming obedient workers, people become desperate for “something else” or “anything else.” Because it’s inhuman and unnatural for homosapiens to live under those conditions, and it’s a desperate situation because these people are desperate, and the people at large have lost a sense of higher purpose (be it God or Country, I personally think we need to return our worship and devotion to Mother Nature.)

I too have challenged faith and reason given the current state of affairs, but I have faith in Mother Nature to return balance to the relations we’ve disturbed, and cut arrogant humans, who think they’re somehow above or seperate from nature, down to size. Like a deer or insect or algae that dominate a given area and upsets the balance, Mother Nature demands balance and harmony between relations and suffering is caused when those relations are disturbed. What gives me faith is the knowledge that all these politicians and their big fancy buildings could magically vanish today, and would go unnoticed as society keeps plodding along - as it’s us who grow and distribute the food, it’s us who drive the trucks and move the goods, it’s us who live on our land, it’s us who strive for and gift a sense of belonging to one another, it’s us who repairs things when they’re broken and it’s us who rebuild when things get destroyed. We are only intelligent or special creatures in that we exist to maintain Natures relations, and like every other creature we exist to survive. We don’t want to assume coersive power or overthrow our government, we want coersive power to be destroyed.

Domestic manufacturers will see a slight bump. Hopefully their raw materials aren’t so heavy affected though…

I mean, I see it a positive that China is telling us to go fuck ourselves, which will greatly increase the economic hardship that the average white moderate faces, which might wake them up to the horrors that are happening around them. As for the trade war as a whole, idk I think the world will generally be better off cutting out America.

Because hurting the 1% is the only way this guy is going to be brought back to being an ineffective dictator. If the rich suffer, he will suffer.

Money answers to neither faith nor reason and holds sway over the govt and it’s population.

Have you seen him recently? Sometimes he neglects the orange deck stain, and his skin is grey and ghoulish. I swear if he didn’t have some necromancer keeping him alive, he’d have died 20 years ago.

lose*

China is not without a butt load of economic problems already. We are their biggest trading partner. I agree we, the US, is fucked, but China is about to be as well. There will be no winners here.

It happened in his first term when he pull this tariff crap. All of our projects came to a stand still because we couldn’t get gear. The same thing is about to happen again.

If Americans see one empty shelf, there will be weeping and panicking in the streets.

I am rooting for free trade. It’s stupid and inefficient for every country to try to manufacture the same goods.

There’s two ways this works out.

1. Trump’s regime doubles down, never backs out and holds firm.

Basically, you’re fucked. Chinese goods stop flowing, medical devices and equipment stop coming, tools and utilities stop being restocked. You’re on your own. Welcome to Thunderdome.

2. Trump’s regime keeps this going until the backlash forces them to give it up.

Then we capitulate to China, end up paying more overall but not an impossibly high figure for our items and life goes on… only a little less swimmingly.

My bet is on #1. Stock up on ammo and food, road warrior.

This is completely unrelated but what’s with the subscript opening quotation marks? Is that a standard in a specific language? I don’t think I’ve ever seen that.

No we are just gonna keep buying the cheap crap at the new tariff price because we have no financial literacy in this country and easy access to credit.

he will destroy the Republican Party’s electoral prospects for decades

Nonsense. Go spend some time on The Federalist, or the New York Post,or r/Conservative, or their pitiful “satire” site The Babylon Bee. They don’t live in reality. The real world is completely irrelevant to them. They could lose everything because of Trump and still think that their woes are the fault of woke Marxist liberals (an oxymoron, I know, but they don’t).

he will destroy the Republican Party’s electoral prospects for decades

That’s what they said about Nixon. Look at how that’s turned out.

They’re not good, but they are easy to win…if you have all the manufacturing facilities and are okay with plunging your country into depression for the sake of absolutely no benefit whatsoever.

Wait, what’s the definition of “win” again?

Generally any tariff over 50% eats into profit margins sufficiently to end trade altogether.

Any escalation in tariffs above that is essentially just a symbolic dick measuring contest. China is being the adult in this situation by not engaging.

If you raise the tariffs to a billion percent then the US will get a billion dollars revenue for every $100 TV that comes from China! There will be so many millions of billions!!! Why wasn’t anyone smart enough to do this before???

He’s just getting extra silly with it.