• korendian@lemmy.zip
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    What a terrible thing to pay someone who really needs the money to do a fairly low effort task for you. Saying this as someone who has done plenty of delivery driving myself, this is a pretty stupid meme.

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      Seriously.

      I advocate against using Doordash because it is overly expensive and that money is better spent paying down debt. But claiming it’s bad to pay someone to do a job for you? The fuck?

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      Yeah like why do you assume that “lower class” minorities are doing this work?

      As a former white delivery driver fuck you op lol

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    Outrage successfully manufactured!

    (It’s far more racist to assume only minorities work for Door Dash than it is to imply whatever the fuck this shit tier meme is trying to say)

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      It’s far more racist to assume only minorities work for Door Dash

      Yeah agreed. Racial profiling is still racial profiling, using euphemisms like “lower class” and “minority” instead of the usual slurs doesn’t make it okay.

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        Agreed. Granted, it’s anecdotal, but everyone bringing my food (though, it’s been about 10 years) was (or appeared to be) white and all had a better vehicle than me.

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          My anecdote is that I’ve received Taco Bell orders from luxury cars and dudes on bikes who can’t speak English.

          It turns out everybody is in need of money lately. I know the point of the language in OP is meant to point out a bad mentality, but when there’s no effort to emphasize it (i.e. quotation marks) then it feels to be in bad taste.

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      This meme is the exact way outside influences have sabotaged all of our social messaging and desires for a better future.

      A lot of people who think they’re progressive are going to latch onto this idea and start saying dumb shit like “Doordash is racist” and they will get scorn and eye-rolling from literally everyone else, ruining the actual thing we should be recognizing, which is the wealth inequality that pushes people to deliver other people’s food using their own car and without healthcare or benefits.

      Doordash’s problems have nothing to do with race, and everything to do with the wealthy pinching off our lives at every possible avenue.

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      Not sure where you’re from, but it is becoming increasingly common in the West that non-white immigrants from the global south tend to do delivery jobs. It’s not necessarily that it’s racist, it’s just that locals don’t want to do these jobs and immigrants do them instead.

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        I live in the PNW. And most of the time when we get DD, they’re white as the driven snow. So, if we’re using anecdotal experience- I’d say it’s the opposite.

        Maybe it’s best we all start learning that the world isn’t just what happens on our own doorsteps.

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          I could say the same to you. It’s a broader trend that migrants from global south do plenty of delivery jobs. I’m not trying to discount your experience, but there are exceptions and outliers when it comes to statistics. Since you mentioned you are from PNW, just look across the border to Canada, and an often complain by racists is Indians working in convenience stores or delivery. And I’m like “what are you complaining? Who’s going to do delivery for you or serve you in shops?” Same thing here in Europe, Indians working in convenience stores and South Americans delivering. The racists complain of poc migrants doing low skill job and not integrating, and yet can’t live without ordering migrants to deliver food for them or working in shops. Britain has had issue of shortage of truck drivers after Brexit, especially during the pandemic. You’d think the white Britons who voted to leave the EU would learn their lesson, and yet they are close to electing a far right, anti-immigrant party that cosies up to Russia into power.

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            and this is why we shouldn’t allow anecdotal experience to take the place of factual information.

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        I think part of it has to do with the fact that the jobs don’t require you to speak English. I’ve also seen a decent share of deaf food delivery people for the same reason.

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          I’ve also seen a decent share of deaf food delivery people for the same reason.

          That is news to me. It is actually sounds equitable to me to give deaf people such jobs. It reminds me of when the South Korean Supreme Court ruled in favour of only allowing blind folks to become massage therapists in S.Korea, because it is only one of the few jobs that blind people could do without being hindered by disability and have a means for living. And it doesn’t make the client feel uncomfortable if the massage therapist can’t see well so it’s a win-win for everyone. The policy is actually a legacy of Japanese colonialism, which is only one of a handful of colonial policies that proved to be a net positive for Korea.

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        Yeah? And who’s making them do these jobs?

        Might as as well do a meme about cleaning floors in public buildings. Or working in a fast food restaurant.

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    “Make”? Are they not being paid?

    I don’t use them myself but if someone wants to pay someone else to go pick up food for them who gives a shit?

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      I use Krogers delivery sometimes now. Prices are all the same as in store, and I don’t have to drive there and back. If I pick a strange time for delivery, say 2-3pm on a Tuesday, shipping is like $1.99. It would cost more in gas for me to do it myself, and if you order $200 worth of groceries, it saves a lot of time.

      There is no way they are saving money doing it, it must just be to scrape up the possibility I don’t stop at ALDI because it’s closer to me.

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        Kroger also for the time being uses hourly paid workers for their delivery and I hope they stay that way. I really dislike the whole independent contractor crap that most of these delivery apps do and ends up just hurting the workers at the end of the day fighting over what little tips and etc.

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        I think that service is still subsidized by the stores. Also it’s very different from having a single meal delivered instantly. Grocery deliveries can be made by a whole truck for many houses.

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    • Nothing wrong with a service existing.
    • Racist to assume that only people belonging to a certain race use these apps.
    • The apps are exploitative, sure. Advocate for better labor regulations here.

    This is the equivalent of saying “don’t wanna make your own coffee? Go to Tim Hortons to be served by lower class Indians”. Same message, but with the racism highlighted.

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    I don’t mind the worker. It’s the exploitative employer I take issue with.

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    Two semi disabled folks here, the services are a godsend but I always tip. People don’t tip here, our last rider said we were the first tip in 3 days. :(

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        It would be if the food service weren’t double-dipping. It’s like two layers of capitalism here.

        Would be really cool if some craigslist style co-op popped up where people could just fulfill taskrabbit style stuff on their own, but there are lots of legal and safety concerns with that.

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        Once or twice per week, give or take, mostly for small supplemental grocery orders. I have a shop that’s close but sometimes I just can’t.

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          I feel like grocery orders are a totally different animal. They can be delivered in bulk with a truck, going from house to house. It’s totally possible to pay a good wage there. But the individualized a single driver can only deliver a single order at a specific time of day seems made for exploitation (Edit: There’s a sentence in there somewhere, sorry). You’re not going to earn a fair wage here because then it would have to cost as much as idk a visit to a barber.

          Anyways, no hate towards you, it’s probably hard enough, I understand.

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            Yeah! We use Morrison’s delivery too which is different from Deliveroo (EU Doordash). I try to prioritise that. :)

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    If the middle man app wasn’t so exploitative, I don’t see what the issue is.

    We’ve had delivery as a middle class job for decades with milkmen and paperboys, the issue is that those jobs aren’t paying living wages anymore.

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        The way you’re proud of 30 minutes of walking a day basically confirms their point.

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          I can’t see their comment but everyone should get some exercise in their day. I take a bus in my town which I acknowledge isn’t available to 90% of rural communities but getting out, even in the winter, and walking is good for you. I usually bike in the warmer months, again not always the best option in single family communities. Don’t blame me for Big Oil robbing you of fundamental ease of transportation

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            I wasn’t trying to ridicule or sound dismissive (but I accidentally did, I swear it wasn’t on purpose), it was just a bit funny to me that 30 minutes of walking a day counts as “actually we do walk around, even though I live in the most walkable county in the country”. Not funny in ha-ha sense, more like funny in “what the fuuuuck” sense.

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    Who ask for delivery from a store that’s 10 minutes walking?

    More like one hour walking, any food would be long cold before I come home. And I don’t own a car. The delivery comes usually by motorcycle in something like 5 minutes in an specialized bag that keeps warm.

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      Who ask for delivery from a store that’s 10 minutes walking?

      Me when I am way too sick to cook let alone move

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      I’ve got friends that work on the corporate side of DD, and they tell me it’s super common for people to order things from places even closer than this. We figure it’s likely people that are high, but disabled is another possibility. Oh, and people in hotels ordering from places they can see from their room lol

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      Who ask for delivery from a store that’s 10 minutes walking?

      A lot of tech workers in San Francisco. They get paid enough that the $20 in fees doesn’t mean much and lazy / overworked enough to not go and get it themselves.

      I assume door dash makes most of there money of those customers, rich / upper middle class people in big cities, as those people are the ones willing to pay the outrageous fees they charge.

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      B bb but my parents haven’t taught me how to cook 50 cent of pasta with homebrand sauce :(

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    I have mobility issues, and neurological ones as well. It was a mistake for me to use DoorDash because it’s convenient and for someone who suffers from being a shut in an expensive but perfect tool. I’d like food delivery though that wasn’t explotive.