I want my wifu game back
What does Jesus need with my credit card information?
jim you dont ask the Almighty for his security numbers
See, I’m no fan of Bitcoin. It’s pure speculation and hardly serves a purpose while burning down a rainforest for every transaction. Also the ledger makes things traceable, so it’s also a worse concept than cash.
This, however, is a good example of why the concept exists. We need a financial tool outside of the control of banks.
(Yada yada Ethereum and proof of stake.)
It’s also why American global hegemony is bad; they all tend to move in lock step with each other. If there were a few more European and Asian payment providers out there we’d be a bit more diversity of policy and true consumer choice.
Remember how they found comstock?
Fuck you dollar jesus.
Kind of like how Republicans wamt to police your sexual partners. Pretty sad in this day of age. Who cares how people spend money and what they spend it on.
If you’re so concerned about kids, launch a parental education campaign. Or age verify with the card.
If you’re a parent, you shouldn’t be attaching your payment methods to kids’ accounts anyway. That’s financial suicide.
You don’t understand, I’m very concerned about the future for my child who I want to put no effort into raising. Why would I parent my kid when I can just have everything I don’t want them exposed to banned? I’m a responsible parent who’s definitely not just trying to enforce draconian puritanical standards I don’t follow on everyone else.
Hands crying kid iPad so they can watch weirdly sexual AI videos of Elsa without stopping for 6 hours straight, because interacting with her is interrupting me binge watching “The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives” which reminds me how puritanical I am
Hmmm… That’s a pretty valid argument. Now, normally, I’m not a big fan of hitting kids. So that’s why I’m gonna hit you instead. Get over here, you little shit!
Won’t somebody please think of the children?!
I have made children illegal, this problem will self-correct within 18 years
18 years and 9 month. :D
You reminded me and (unintentionally) made me go read about Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. In the story, there is a child-catcher working for the Baron and Baroness of Vulgaria where children are illegal.
Whilst watching the child-catcher scene, I saw a familiar face. It was the toymaker who was portrayed by Benny Hill. That made me check the IMDB page and it was indeed him. Also of note: the story was written by Ian Flemming (screenplay by Roald Dahl) and one of the children was the (then) future singer Phil Collins.
/tangent
I think this is the passage your refer to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LehcJeNbFBw
So it’s curtis yarvin and he brings them directly to the billionaires
Then the children threaten to 9/11 their tower
I think I’m going to watch the rest of this
Not like that!
According to Knitting Cult Lady, cults always demand purity from its disciples, including those forced in (e.g. people raised in cults as kids), and there’s an exception for the godhead-dude (who is often a lech).
It’s not about children. It’s about forcing obedience and virtue signalling. It’s a nazi salute that shows to fellow party members you’re one of them.
Real children’s issues are about pulling kids out of precarity: food, housing, contact with family, education, healthcare, quality of life. Anyone who is saying their cause is to protect children who hasn’t prioritized these specific things is engaging in a bad-faith argument.
I think this is from “Collective shout” they seem to think the seem like your typical porn prohibitionists They figured out they could milk the outrage machine by having indecent art game become neo-banned books
I think this circus is to throw the games off of the scent of the billionaire elite and their epstein getaways to mossad island
Hate it. Especially itch.io nuking everything. Adult games is basically the only reason I even had an account on there
Well thanks for letting me know I don’t need to bother with that site /s
I think they’re working on bringing a lot of it back and stuff, but ya know :3
Last I checked you couldn’t search for anything with the “nsfw” tag
Not gonna lie their tag system sucks eggs, no way to exclude tags when searching on their site/app, I thought the site was nothing but horror when I first got into it.
F95Zone has most games available for download, at least out of the ones I’ve seen on itch.io. It’s technically a place to get them illegitimately, but a lot of small-time developers still make accounts there just to chat with players and encourage them to buy the games and/or support them on subscribestar for real if they like their content, which seems to work well.
Funny part is that one of Jesus’s favorite disciplines was a prostitute. I don’t think Jesus was has as prudish as his followers are.
I get that it was a typo, and you meant to say “disciples”, but I like it better this way.
Like Jesus was studying for a career in sex work.
I think the disciples are disciplined by the cult guru. And we know how many of those guru end up with megaorgies maybe they didn’t write all of it down
“Let he who is without sin cast the first stone…”
Jesus always said the ones that needed him the most were the crooked ones. He say Magdalena and though “I can fix her”
Society has never been able to keep NSFW content out of the hands of viewers / end users, and have tried multiple times. Singles (a The Sims -like with actual sex – if kinda clinical; it was a German game) was pressured off shelves in Target, Gamestop and Electronics Boutique. It came back with underwear stapled on, which was quickly hacked off.
This is how we ended up with official / unofficial patches that re-unlock all the naked bits in games like Huniepop, Nude keys, nude codes and nude patches became the convention which ushered video games into the same perversity level of cinema. (We’ve already had countless fan-made nude patches for non-romantic games).
And of course they’re going too far, pressuring distribution services to cut LGBT+ content whether it’s porn or not. Before they were emboldened by Trump, there was already pressure to de-list specific themes (an incomplete list: rape/NC; fictional child sex abuse/child experimentation; incest; and depending on the assessment, furry content within a certain threshold.¹ ). Anyhow we know the white Christian nationalist movement (from which the Heritage Society’s Project 2025 and the Seven Mountain Mandate come) is looking to criminalize porn and make it difficult to access.
1: This is still weird to me, enough to geek out about it here. Furry hate gets strangely specific. It breaks down like this:
- Those who disapprove of all furry content that is adult-themed (contrast the 1983 movie Rock and Rule vs. 1973 Disney’s Robin Hood ) this group probably only exists because there’s a significant fanbase for furry porn / erotica.
- Of those that remain, those who disapprove of furry content featuring explicit sex (e.g. “Omaha” the Cat Dancer first published in 1976, by Reed Waller and Kate Worley.)
- Of those that remain, those who disapprove of furry content that is exclusively erotic (I can’t find the specific ones I’ve read, which isn’t many.)
- Of those that remain, those who disapprove of erotic furry content that features species-accurate genitals, which is the threshold VISA was in, and is too spicy for some lemmings. I don’t fully understand why this is a subcategory.
The thing is most porn games and most LGBT+ centric games are labors of love, first, and a revenue source second. They will get made and get out, more so, when entire demographics and communities are stripped of a voice or of acknowledgement. It also puts less spicy porn in the same category as unethically spicy porn (e.g. CSAM). If the public has to use the same methods as terrorists and child predators to get their fix, it makes those groups less illegitimate. In for a lamb, in for a sheep.
Anyhow useful websites are here:
Of those that remain, those who disapprove of erotic furry content that features species-accurate genitals, which is the threshold VISA was in, and is too spicy for some lemmings. I don’t fully understand why this is a subcategory.
This one actually makes the second most sense to me out of the ones listed (first being explicit sex of course). To a lot of people who aren’t furries, at least in the horny sense, the emphasis put on making the genitals resemble those of real animals is a clear connection to bestiality. In order to care, you have to know, and to know you have to spend a lot of time looking at animal dicks (or spend time with people who do).
To make my point, ask yourself how you feel about other fetishes / kinks with similar properties. For example, consider ABDL. It’s a fetish that uses fairly direct references to being way too young for sex despite being adults, much like the animal dicks directly invoking, well, sucking animal dick despite not being an animals. There are tons of people who see that and immediately think it’s for pedos. Though, weirdly enough, many those same people don’t have nearly that much of an issue with various more mild but more realized forms of neoteny in porn (the industry’s obssession with 18-19yo girls springs to mind).
For what it’s worth I’m not really in that group (consentual adults yada yada), but I did have that gut reaction when I first encountered it.
Firstly, I became sexually active in a sex-positive, kink-centric community, and so have been raised with the philosophy that so long as all participants are adults (and buts safety constraints on harm caused so no-one regularly has to go to the ER).
But I am unusually tolerant of unusual kinks and have jealousy issues of inclusion, rather than limiting access. My psychologist a decade ago would attribute it to being neuralspicy. Also during the Iraq war and the CIA extrajudicial detention and torture program, I freaked out and started a (personal) dive into moral philosophy, which explores the intersectionality (or rather the separation) between what we _reason _out is moral or proper (e.g. equality, liberty) and what we feel is moral or proper (e.g. purity, obedience)
One of the notable studies regards the story of Julie and Mark (in short, they’re blood siblings, go on a camping trip, have sex and decide it was a good experience but not worth repeating) and subjects told this story would go to great lengths to rationalize their disapproval of the siblings’ behavior in the story. This divergence between reasoned ethics and intuitive ethics runs thick through human culture, informing business practices like RTO mandates, bullshit jobs and crunching development teams (overworking them to meet deadlines, which kills their productivity to well below non-crunch levels)
So yes. People freak out about age play and lolicon, about Rule 34 featuring the Simpsons kids, about fictional bestiality, …and about anthros with species-correct genitals, even if the characters are otherwise clearly consenting adults. Reasonably, these should all be protected by free speech, and efforts to limit speech always extend into non-sexual matters such as trans issues and queer culture, so that talking about UHaul Lesbians could soon become restricted or even criminal in the US.
I think species-correct genitalia and lolicon material should be legal and accepted as unrestricted content, but I also understand as a species, we will have to further develop our society so that it is less reactive to moral panics (also to political power consolidation) before marginalized content can be freely distributed, or, for that matter, all pervs and queers can come fully out of the closet.
And as a footnote, just as the autocratic purges come for the marginalized, the politically far-left and political enemies before cutting into larger demographics, autocratic censorship efforts come first for kink and queer content then general porn, then history and philosophy, and then language and grammar. Knitting Cult Lady, in her discussions of cult systems of control, discusses use of language to control the flock among her many topics.
The time is now if you’re looking to start your own payment system
I would be greatly entertained if valve went into payment processing and out-competed these absolute shitshows of companies.
The Valve Strategy of “letting the competition shoot itself” spreads
You got Monero for starters.
Why not GNU Taler?
Does not work around the necessity to get all major retail banks or the central bank on board, as they outline in their FAQ.
There’s no magic bullet, if you want to act as a payment processor you only have a handful of options:
- Do a bank wire (but it’s not pre-authorized so you’re just providing a deposit account for your customers, like PayPal)
- Use Visa/MC (which PayPal falls back to if you have no money in your deposit account)
- Use regional payment processors where they exist (e.g. Bancontact/iDEAL in the Benelux, which Stripe conveniently abstracts for the retailers; however most countries don’t have such a widespread alternative to American payment processors)
- Use physical cash
- Agree on a protocol to pre-authorize transfers on behalf of your customer with all banks your customers are likely to be using (in the EU you can do that with SEPA mandates, which PayPal does support as well)
In practice the EU is doing that last thing with Wero (which already has partnered with all major retail banks in Benelux+France+Germany) and Brazil successfully did the same with Pix. It’s not that the technical part is particularly hard, it’s that convincing the banking sector to adhere to and commercially promote a new standard is a long, expensive, arduous process that requires strong political connections.
Oh, cool. A pity that it won’t be adopted
This is the actual stated goal of Bitcoin. And this is an actual use for it. But that ship sailed a very long time ago.
Or you could adopt pix.
The CEO stepped down and there is a new one in charge
To the people who are pushing this:
Do you want everyone to start using crypto where all transactions are not controllable by you at all? Because this is how you get people to do that.
That’s the best case outcome no matter what, that’s what crypto should be, not some brain rot hype scam fest. Also for private transactions, that’s why Monero Is the only good crypto, its actually private and secure.
I highly doubt that crypto could deliver on that particular promise.
It already does deliver on that promise, crypto is used extensively online for drug orders. You may think that’s bad, but it shows how well it works for secure and restriction less transactions.
Crypto is great for peer 2 peer money transfers. But when you have a legal big business you end up still having to deal with the big payment processors to do anything of substance with that crypto.
So for illegal and underground stuff it’s great.
For big businesses that need to stay above board and legal. It becomes a dead end.
That’s the whole thing. Crypto was supposed to be a currency system by using a block chain as a ledger.
Ethereum is kind of what crypto was thought up to be. A semi stable coin, that serves as decentralized currency.
In some ways it’s brilliant; no institution that can watch what you buy, limit you or take their cut. But then again, it’s rife with illegal transactions and some really impactful theoretical attacks, especially against the ledger. It’s a blessing and a curse.
I don’t think ETH was ever expected to be stable. Vitalik Buterin already had a good reputation and the pre-sale (ICO) was well-publicized. They expected ETH to be the liquidity for decentralized stable coins.
It’s extremely clunky, it takes menace of being killed by the state before people will put up with the jank
Crypto still has to deal with payment processors when it comes to large businesses. It doesn’t side step the issue at all unless the business can entirely pay all it’s bills with crypto.
Thanks your your AI input! /s
That’s not about crypto, like at all?
Couldn’t people just by steam cards with cash, load load it to their accounts and then make their porn purchases? What’s to stop other retailers from selling gift cards that can be purchased with cash to use on the pornographic stuff being sold? Edit: I just learned this issue stems from the major CC companies refusing to let companies like steam use their platform to process payments if they kept NSFW games up. My question still stands, what’s keeping steam or the player base from telling these companies to f-off and switch to a cash based gift card method?
and then make their porn purchases
The issue goes far beyond “porn games on Steam”. These same groups tried to ben other games with no sex at all, but “disturbing” themes (to them). They failed, because, big game, big pushback. But their agenda is not “no porn”, it’s “no anything we dislike”. They’re just starting with the thing they hoped would get little to no pushback for now.
Its really odd, cause you’d think they’d just want to make money no matter where it comes from.
the only thing worth more than money to these kinds of people is making other people suffer.
They control virtually every transaction everywhere for mostly everyone, aside from local payment solutions. They already make more than enough. As illustrated here; they ask for some bullshit, and everyone involved caves in, no matter what.
Gift cards only function because of payment processors basically.
If visa and MasterCard decide they won’t support steam means you also can’t buy steam gift cards with your debit card suddenly it requires cash.
Stores will get pressured to no longer stock those giftcard or also lose visa/MasterCard support. This has been threatened before and has caused gift cards to be removed from major grocery stores in the us in the past.
You CANT avoid this even swapping to crypto has the same problem. At some point you HAVE to deal with the payment processors.
Even just getting your crypto back out into cash can quickly become problematic for a business.
We the people have options and ways around it sure, but businesses really don’t.
The biggest reason is Steam would likely lose more money from doing that compared with removing the games the card companies are being assholes about.
Just read about brazilian PIX system and I am baffled. Their gov bypassed payment companies all together and trump is really angry about it Lol. Epic
Sounds like good shit.
I’m out of the loop I guess. What’s happening?
Americans are being puritanical, and US payment companies are making steam and other game platforms remove nsfw content or they’ll block their payment services from them or something.
And somehow they decided it’s better to make this an issue for everyone, not just the people who use those payment services
It’s Australia not America that’s doing this.
Pretty sure Collective Shout is Austrailian.
I think they also got Left 4 Dead 2’s poster edited to remove the V fingers (cuz it’s 2 in america and the finger in Aussie??)
They also got an rpg rape simulator delisted, though that probs would have happened on it’s own.
You can look at the list :3 this is from itch talking about collective shout. A lot of them are US based, the last one is japanese
The entire movement and group that’s pushing this is the Australian branches of these companies and Australian groups partitioning the companies.
So this is entirely Australias fault.
International companies are international.
Totally. I’m arguing that the only people with puritanical reasons are the Australian karen group.
VISA etc are acting for purely financial reasons. Like they literally have matrixes for this kind of thing. Corporations don’t give 2 shits about fuck if it doesn’t make them money.
End of the day they calculated that the market cap for hentai games is smaller than the potential lost revenue generated from the negative publicity.
Fair enough :3
Similar point tho. Enough puritans can’t handle consenting adults looking at a drawn penis to make the payment processors pull this little stunt
Funny they don’t name their own Australian conservative anti abortion Christian founder though
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melinda_Tankard_Reist
Funny that they are trying to empower women so much but aren’t going after any of the social media of fundie women telling young girls their only purpose in life is to breed and serve their husband
An action group of Karens who in the past have succeed in getting other games (one of them an rpg rape simulator) taken off of game stores.
This recent story they convinced payment processors to pressure steam into removing most of their adult games as well as some other site that I guess has even more adult games.
IMO if a platform decides they don’t want to host adult content, that is their prerogative. The people conflating this to “art destruction” or “censorship” are just another flavour of people who misunderstand what free speech is and isn’t.
“Remove the games or we’ll remove your ability to accept payments from 98% of your customers”
DUDES IT’S TOTALLY UP TO THE GAME PLATFORM
Free market baby. If VISA decides it will lose money processing payments for hentai games it’s their prerogative to not process them.
I’d wager you have crypto wallet if you the kind of person who cares about hentai games. Go support the developer directly if it matters so much.
Hentai games are not going to make the 98% of people who don’t play them care about Payment Oligopolies, which is the closet thing to moral cause here.
Nothing wrong with hentai but getting worked up over it is a red flag.
Why is it a red flag if there’s nothing wrong with it?
I think you mean “Monopoly baby!”, or are Visa/Mastercard not using their dominant market position to dictate what can and cannot be purchased?
No oligopoly is when several companies control the market. Monopoly is when a single company controls the market.
Shouldn’t have jerked off all zoom class bud.
if you’re going to be all “uhm, aktchually” you might want to make sure you get the terms right:
when it’s 2 companies, it’s called a duopoly.
Free market baby. If VISA decides it will lose money processing payments for hentai games it’s their prerogative to not process them.
You’re so right, and I’m obviously happy when things like this happen. Thank you, VISA. Thank you, Mastercard. Thank you, Capital One. Thank you, American Express. Praise be to God, guns, and government. Amen.
It’s called “extortion.” The X makes it sound sexy.
Sounds like they need to get laid.
