It’s simply astounding the slop Americans will accept as “Journalism” nowadays.
Though Musk slammed Trump’s handling of the Epstein files, his attacks themselves were riddled with false assumptions, including conspiracy theories about the existence of an Epstein “client list,” which is unsupported by evidence.
So ABC “News” just straight up parrots the Trump administrations talking points as if they are objective facts. “Left Leaning” bias my asshole :(
And what is the “evidence” they use to back up this supposed fact, some lawyer hasn’t seen it. As we all know, absence of evidence is evidence of absence. Good Job ABC, case closed.
Not to mention this lawyers story is full of holes.
First of all he claims to be representing Epstein’s victims, but goes on to say that
“he is bound by attorney-client privilege and cannot ethically reveal the names of any of Epstein’s alleged associates without permission from his clients.”
Exsqueeze me? Admittedly I am not a lawyer, but what exactly would be the point of ‘representing’ the victims if they refuse to release the names of the people who assaulted them? Isn’t the point to bring these people to justice? How would it benefit the victims in any way to not release the names? The only way that would make sense is if Edwards was only there to distribute hush money payments. Can anyone explain this to me?
Then he goes on to say
“It’s difficult to even discern, when he would send a woman to one of his friends, whether that was even a motivation. What he was not is a person on the top of a sex trafficking operation that was sending women to powerful people around the world so that he could make money. It was not a business,”
but later in the exact same article the writer says
“And it raises questions whether those records, if made public, could finally lead to a better understanding of how a college dropout from Coney Island managed to accumulate astounding wealth and proximity to power – a transformation that has long defied ready explanation.”
Gee, its so weird how a guy who was a habitual child molester, who was friends with some very rich and powerful scumbags, who’s partner was convicted of sex trafficking, and who was mysteriously able to accumulate “astounding wealth” is also clearly and unambiguously innocent of running a sex trafficking operation, because ‘some guy said so’. If anyone read that sentence and thinks it sounds plausible please PM me, I just got some really nice bridges in famous cities and I’m willing to let them go for cheap.
Oh and here comes my favorite part:
Edwards describes the enigmatic Epstein as living, essentially, two separate lives: one in which he was sexually abusing women and girls “on a daily basis,” and another in which he associated with politicians, royalty, and titans of business, academia, and science.
“For the most part, those two worlds did not overlap. And where they overlapped, in the instances they overlapped, it seems to be a very small percentage,” Edwards said.
Ok? Edwards let’s say that it was a ‘very small percentage’, WHO FUCKING CARES?! I don’t care if it was one person, that person should be named and prosecuted. For Fuck Sake saying he only did ‘a little bit’ of pimping out underage children for the wealthy to molest as if that excuses it or diminishes it in any way makes me want to puke.
“There were occasions where a select few of these men engaged in sexual acts with a select few of the girls that Jeffrey Epstein was exploiting or abusing – primarily girls who were over the age of 18.”
Again, WHO THE FUCK CARES?! Why does this even need to be said? Even if we take what this clown is saying as absolute fact, that still means young women were being exploited and abused, and some % of them were underage. WHO WERE THE ‘SELECT FEW’ MEN? That is what we want to know, not hear excuses like “Well it was only a few men, and only some of the girls were underage”. Get all the way the fuck out of here with that bullshit.
“That conduct was coercive, it was exploitative, and it was bad. But it’s a small fraction of the men he was associated with,” Edwards said. "And he was abusing hundreds of women, if not a thousand. And it’s a very small fraction of those women that he was sending to men.
I’m not going to say it again. 🤮
he said he has seen no indication that Epstein kept a list of those men, or that he made it a practice to use those instances to blackmail or extort the men
The cameras in the bedrooms and the bathrooms were just there for the molesters safety and nothing else I’m sure.
“So the best thing would be: Protect the victims’ names, release everything else, so that the world can see what is real, versus what is total fiction, and then everybody can move on.”
Except that you and ABC have just spent an entire article regurgitating the Trump administrations excuses for not releasing them, so why in the fuck would they bother? But hey, now you can guys can pretend that you are for releasing the information even though you just gave them every excuse not to. Convenient.
There’s more I could say but I’m getting sick just thinking about this crap. The whole damn thing is disgusting.
Probably trying to distract from DOGE carving out the government.
It’s hilarious how obvious their falling out was going to be 6 months ago.
I’m surprised they lasted this long.
always funny to see and popcorn worthy!
I hate musk, think he is a nazi, and will reject the world he creates. Glad he is taking this one on though. They deserve each other.
It’s like watching two nasty creatures fight each other while you, who was going to be eaten by one of them, can get away, at least for a little bit. But if you had the ability, you stomp the fuck out of both of them.
What else is on? I’m tired of Jerry Springer white trash theatrics we call governance.
Fuck! Nail on the head with that comparison! It’s literally like the worst white trash Nazi bullshit episode from Jerry Springer is currently squatting in the White House.
We are watching the attempted ousting of a dictator in the world’s most powerful country. But go on
Please, trump is just the lighting rod for your rage at a system that is in the final stages of being taken over by economic forces. He’s the finger puppet on the hand of the general elite. Just because he’s a moron doesn’t mean he’s not your equivalent of a WWE heel.
And?
comeon Elmu, just put your money where the mouth is.
Tesla shares for everyone who brings/leaks hard evidence.
This dude practically bought votes for trump.
This is all bullshit theater unless he funds something.
Ew no money please. The only people who want Tesla shares are going to be worthless idiots.
those are the ones he needs to convince
I dunno, I’m almost out of toilet paper anyway
When was the year when they stopped issuing shares on paper?
mind that he was willing to do all this together until he couldn’t get enough shit from mango mussolini for his
pocketscompanies. he can choke on a bag of dildos after he gets his nuremberg trial.if these people, all of them, including the Dems who capitulate, owners of the media companies that censor in their name and push their fascist agenda, all ICE employees, don’t get their own nuremberg trials, and examples aren’t made of them, the US might as well throw the towel and declare itself a lawless land and a failed state.
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4 upvotes, no downvotes, removed by mod and banned. Huh.
Considering the shit that gets upvoted on Lemmy that’s not saying much.
Yeah, I’m rather confident that bots are rampant on here. All the wrong news sites are constantly the ones that are upvoted the most. The bots don’t care who you hate, just that you hate. It doesn’t matter if it is leaders, minorities, businesses, other nations, or whatever.
The bots agenda is to make it harder for people to work together in unison. Create disruptions and lower the operational efficiency of other nations.
And I doubt the Lemmy devs will do anything to stop them. Fortunately, with other software like PieFed and mbin reaching maturity the Lemmy devs won’t matter soon.
And… what was posted?
I hate that removed posts get deleted, I’m filled with curiosity
He just wants to be cool again.
That’s not going to happen, but it’s really gonna be fun watching them fight more while he tries.
I’m surprised how much faith you have in people’s critical thinking skills and short term memory.
I don’t find it fun at all. It coukd easily lead to Trump consolidating his power
If he decides to really go after Musk ny stripping his citizenship, or taking away federal money, it’ll send a strong message to the other oligarchs to fall in line
it’ll send a strong message to the other oligarchs to fall in line
If that’s going to happen, it will happen with or without this.
If he wants to do it this way he is welcome to.
As long as he doesn’t garner supporters and then flip them to some crazy shit.
He’s not drawing any left support, but splitting the right who will be completely open to crazy shit
Yeah I agree. That’s good for the left. Split votes. What we really need is a third party that hates the rich and loves guns.
Remember trumps a pawn… the game doesn’t die with his demise. It barely changes at all.
The truth is probably far more dark and fucked up than trump and Epstein.
Don’t let the drama take away your vision of the full spectrum of americas situation.
Watching them fight each other is the only moment of solace I get in the news these days. Don’t take that away from me.
He’s not going to change my view on anything.
With love, that speaks to a profound emptiness in our lives. We need something worth preserving.
The only thing trump has ever been successful at in his entire life is being a reality TV star. It’s amazing that people don’t understand that that’s his role now, too. I guess he’s also been successful at laundering Russian oligarch money, but that’s his role now, too.
The cult of personality behind Trump will shatter. And there will be cracks formed in the MAGA movement. New figureheads will try to take power and split the base.
They will still be racist republicans, but to say little will change is simply not true.
I agree. It’s rotten at the core. T is a symptom, not the root cause. Something/someone else will take over once he dies. Things won’t get better.
I’m not so sure… Maybe a pawn that has made it to the other side of the board, but turns into a King instead of a Queen
That crowd are fucking tens of thousands of children daily in ways other than those the pedos did to the young girls they preyed upon.
Monkeys throwing shit at each other.
From their own social media platform. Thats the part that always gets me about their spats. They only post and read on the platform they own.
They should federate.
Nah, they read everything about themselves, or have someone read it to them.
Then they go to the place where they literally control the narrative and respond.
you know. just like jefferson and hamilton. america has always been this weird form of fascism that fetishizes libertarian ideals while having a top down authoritarian regime. trump is just a lowering of the curtain. everything can get worse faster now because there’s nothing preventing them from being who they really are
It’s absolutely wild that the US president is able to pardon convicts. Like you have a supposedly independent legislature and judiciary, and the the president can just go “nuh-uh” to anything he doesn’t like
the power of the pardon is meant to be a check/balance. no one really planned for the american people knowingly and willingly voting for corruption
That makes no sense to me, it just reinforces the fact that the US president is essentially just an king that gets elected and has a term limit
The way that the parties used to control nominations helped keep ideologues out, and deal makers who knew how to play along in.
Then the tea party and money in politics went insane and now we have the dumbest Congress people and a somehow even dumber President.
People thought the smoke filled rooms that gave us Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, and Goldwater were the most corrupt thing and what we needed was more democracy.
And 2 generations later we got trump.
I’m okay with that.
I’ll allow it.
It doesn’t matter.
If someone unearthed video of Trump raping an 11-year-old, Republicans would love him even more, his approval ratings would go up, leaders on the “religious right” would explain that it’s all Biblical, and Trump would successfully sue for the profits from video sales.
If you truly believe this, you need to take a step back from one or more echo chambers, because you’ve lost touch with reality.
Trump waffling on the topic, without any ‘hard’ evidence, has already caused momentum in the opposite direction.
But it’s just performative resistance. They still vote to give him everything he wants every time without exception.
But it’s just performative resistance.
That’s your assumption, not a fact. If hard evidence of Donald Trump literally raping a child was made public during his last campaign, I’d bet my life savings he wouldn’t be President today.
I’d usually agree with this sentiment, but the MAGAsphere actually seems to be breaking with him on this one. The chuds are upset about this, and it might not go away so easily, especially now that he’s attacking his base over this.
The chuds aren’t going to do anything other than type away furiously. Same as the rest of us …
Well one of the things that nobody seems to have considered is that Elon has a bot army, an AI, and Twitter he can turn against Trump.
In addition, and it may or may not be a coincidence, but he’s not as buddy buddy with Putin as he once was.
I absolutely believe Putin is fueling this. President Vance is a collaborative agent for Peter Thiel and the Heritage Foundation. Heritage is a longtime Putin ally. The question is, will MAGA stop questioning their echo chamber after Trump is put out to rot? That is the gamble, and they are going for it.
I absolutely believe Putin is fueling this.
Yeah, but liberals believe that Putin is behind everything, so that’s not surprising
Just because we think Putin is behind everything doesn’t mean he’s not behind this exact thing. The same way just because you’re paranoid it doesn’t mean you’re not being followed
And you think the IDF isn’t committing genocide so nobody needs to care what you think.
… because he has a ton of global influence??? He’s former KGB, one of the greatest misinformation diseminators of history. If you don’t believe that, you likely consume some of it.
Ok. That doesn’t mean he’s behind literally everything the way liberals make out. The KGB were second rate information manipulators compared to domestic US operations anyway.
You are making a strawman argument. I didn’t say I am liberal, nor did I say Putin does everything. I said Putin is likely behind this, because Putin definitely has compromat on Trump. I also said he has global influence, which he does. These statements are obvious, supported by overwhelming evidence, and not so broad as your strawman
I don’t like the presumption of video sales for CSAM.
Edit: not a dig at you, but of the unpleasant viability of that statement.
That’s my takeaway too. What are americans gonna do about it? Nothing. He’d just gain popularity and the church will like him more too because of their common interests
Elmo always knew he was a POS. The while time.
There’s pictures of him with Maxwell floating around that he’s been trying really hard to erase, right? It wouldn’t surprise me if he’s on the list himself and feeling confident that he’s not going to get fucked over because he knows there’s too many powerful people who have no interest in ever seeing those files released around or because he and the Elonjugend just happened to get rid of any evidence that could implicate him.
Anyway, he’s only doing this because he’s mad that Trump doesn’t want to play Tesla salesman anymore.
and nevertheless he used him for his own gain at our expense, and continues to use him to beef up his own image
Elon’s brother was like epstein’s second-best friend.
Wasn’t Ghislaine Maxwell setting up elons karate lessons too?
No wonder he never wanted to fight the Zuck; all his previous ‘opponents’ were pre-pubescent.
Two of the worst people in the world feuding is just magnificent.
it is theater