• acosmichippo@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    it’s not at our expense. illegal immigrants do the jobs we don’t want to do anyway, and they contribute more to the economy than they take from it.

    blame the billionaires for using 24 hour news and social media to misdirect people’s anger with bigotry and fear mongering.

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      18 hours ago

      they contribute more to the economy than they take from it

      They even help prop up Social Security, since they pay into it but can’t ever collect on it.

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      jobs we don’t want to do anyway

      How about they pay decently for those jobs and provide decent working conditions and you’ll have plenty of people who would want to do those jobs.

      But no, we must take advantage of illegal immigrants because “nobody wants to do those jobs”.

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          23 hours ago

          It took me 8,5€ per hour. You picked a perfect example since that’s something I’ve actually done

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              22 hours ago

              Lmao I’m sure all those struggling people unable to find decent work would turn down a job if it paid decent and working conditions were adequate. Fucking lazy poor people…

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                Poor people will not get adequate working conditions because the boss can hire illegals and threaten to just call immigration.

                That is why the bosses are exciting idiots against immigrants with all their medias. They know damn well you cannot eradicate a whole ethnicity, nor stop human flows without atrocities, but as long as the idiots keep whining about immigrants, they will get the cheap labour.

                The social-nationalists are just digging their own graves, really.

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                  6 hours ago

                  You could make it economically unviable to employers by having really tough fines and punishments for employing illegal immigrants. That way you can make it too risky and undesirable for the employer to abuse the immigrants and give local workers a much better chance at achieving good working conditions and pay.

                  This system where employers abuse both the legal immigration and illegal to screw over local workers is ridiculous.

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                21 hours ago

                yes, exactly. and then what do those poor lazy people do when prices on all those goods rise because of the increased labor costs? the exact same situation all over again.

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                  21 hours ago

                  Oh no not increased labour costs, clearly abusive working conditions are better than having to pay more for labour. If you can’t do affordable strawberries without using illegal immigrants as your workforce then I’d say we probably should do without affordable strawberries.

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                    20 hours ago

                    we’re not just talking about strawberries. we’re talking about literally all food production. construction. service industries. landscaping. it’s simply a fantasy to think we could “do without” all that stuff or kick out all of the people doing these jobs and magically fill the positions with out of work citizens. the unemployment rate is already about as low as it could be at 4.1%.