• acosmichippo@lemmy.world
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    21 hours ago

    yes, exactly. and then what do those poor lazy people do when prices on all those goods rise because of the increased labor costs? the exact same situation all over again.

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      21 hours ago

      Oh no not increased labour costs, clearly abusive working conditions are better than having to pay more for labour. If you can’t do affordable strawberries without using illegal immigrants as your workforce then I’d say we probably should do without affordable strawberries.

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        20 hours ago

        we’re not just talking about strawberries. we’re talking about literally all food production. construction. service industries. landscaping. it’s simply a fantasy to think we could “do without” all that stuff or kick out all of the people doing these jobs and magically fill the positions with out of work citizens. the unemployment rate is already about as low as it could be at 4.1%.

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          13 hours ago

          Somehow other countries manage without abusing illegal immigrantion on such a massive scale. Hell, some places have all those workers unionized.

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              6 hours ago

              Opening borders is a good way to ensure decent working conditions are never achieved since there’s a constant influx of people coming in willing to work for less. And you royally screw over the workers who are already living there.

              Might suck for the origin country too if all the people are drained from there to work abroad. But that’s a larger topic.

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                6 hours ago

                You threat the wealth gap between poor and rich country as if it was unsolvable and fatality, which is inherently racist. People who come aren’t weights and the only reason why they’re forced to undersell themselves is because of social stigma and segregation.

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                  6 hours ago

                  I don’t think it’s unsolvable, plenty of countries have gone from poor to rich and some have gone the opposite way.

                  How is it racist, do you think only certain races are rich right now or what? Wealth isn’t tied to skin colour

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                6 hours ago

                More people also means more consumers and more people paying for stuff. Your racist idea of the third world being baby factories is deeply disturbing.

                Just say you want to keep your first world privilege of being rich thanks to colonization.

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                  6 hours ago

                  What baby factories are you talking about?

                  More people also means more consumers and more people paying for stuff.

                  I’m sure the owning class are happy about that but does nothing for workers, other than forcing them to fight for those jobs with people willing to take lower pay and suffer shittier conditions. But line must go up.

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                    6 hours ago

                    National-socialisme is a plague.

                    Maybe fight your owning class instead of rooting for segregation because you’re afraid of competition. Simp. You’re the house slave in a plantation whispering to the boss that outside slaves shouldn’t get in the house so you get your meager crumbles.

                    Did that occur to you that immigrants will have the same material condition as you and thus would allies with you against the bosses? If you weren’t threating them as second-class citizen they might root WITH the white working class instead of competing against them.

                    But hey that would require not wanting to deport their mums.

                    You’re a pick-me simp. I hate it when nazidiots hides their racism in the veil of marxism.