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    I don’t believe that it’s discriminatory when I say that people with severe neurological disorders and dementia shouldn’t be making laws.

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      He is 85. What the fuck drives you besides greed and power to stay in Congress past your 70th? He will probably die in a couple of years, but still clings to this power trip with bare hands. Just illustrates how fucking greedy and corrupted that mf is.

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        The issue is seniority rules. You only get the real power (committee seats, etc) after you’ve been in the senate for decades. Giving that up is probably hard if you’ve spent decades climbing that ladder.

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        Like go fishing, or whittle some shit on a porch. Youre gonna die soon and you want to spend your final days on the hill with the lizards and cockroaches?

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      Even if we are going to continue to let the elderly rule us, an event like this should result in an instant resignation. But no, he has to claw onto the reins of power until they’re taken from his cold, dead hands.

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        I keep saying that the fact that Trump has made it to 77 is a testament to modern medical science.

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          Nah, his longevity is from decent genes and the fact that he’s never had to worry or stress about anything real his entire life. Poverty is the number one killer of Americans. The lack of access to healthcare, having to overwork your body and mind to make ends meet and the constant stress of wondering if your next paycheck will be enough to feed and house you and your loved ones is killer on the heart. Shitty people don’t live long lives because they’re shitty. It’s because they’re rich. IT just so happens, all rich people are also shitty people. But I’ve met some poor shitty people that die early because their heart just gives out from overwork.

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          It’s like Eugenia Cooney. How is she still alive? How do you treat your body with absolute disdain and survive?

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            Mick Jagger just turned 80.

            I eat pretty well, exercise daily and I doubt I’m making it that long…

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    Thoughts and prayers that he has some incurable medical condition.

    He’s been a piece of human garbage all his career, so let’s not sugar coat things now.

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    Conservatives when Biden does something like walk the wrong direction: omg he’s senile and clearly has dementia!

    Conservatives when McConnell (maybe) has a fucking legit seizure: everything’s fine, nothing to see here.

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      Both of them need to get the hell out of politics as should anyone over the retirement age.

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        Seriously. Enough with the septuagenarians and octogenarians in the government. If you’re going to drop dead from old age at any moment, you shouldn’t be in any government position, especially not a national/federal one, IMO.

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      How about hemberders? Or Tim Apple? Trump talks and walks like he’s have constant brain aneurism, yet not a single peep form his idiot base.

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        Or covfefe. Or falling down a 5-degree decline. Or desperately gripping a bottle of water with two hands to carry it to his Queller Demon mouth.

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        Tim Apple is intentional. It’s smart and effective. It communicates who he is talking about to people who have absolutely no clue who the CEO of Apple is. Simplified language like that is trump’s specialty because it works with his base.

        Edit, well, looks like this is just as bad as reddit. Not sure what I expected.

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            Why would you run a business if your name wasn’t plastered all over it? Tim Apple isn’t stupid.

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          Regarding your edit - yes, completely made up bullshit also doesn’t fly here.

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            What makes you think it’s made up? The dude has brainwashed 1/3 the country. Do you think he did that on accident? Unfortunately for you and I, trump is an expert communicator.

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          Edit, well, looks like this is just as bad as reddit. Not sure what I expected.

          Can you people just stop fucking whining? You made a dumb fucking comment and got downvoted for it. Its doesnt matter, its not the end of the world, you dont have to edit your comment to cry about the fact that people didnt agree with your extreme reach to defend a dumb comment Donald Trump made.

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            Is it extreme reach though? He’s whipped up 1/3 the country into a frenzie. That’s effective communication even if it is awful and hateful.

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              He could also have done a Nazi salute or just dropped trou and shat on the floor and it would have whipped up most the country into a frenzy, that doesnt means its some mastermind play.

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                Shifting goal posts. I’m just saying he communicates well. Hitler also communicated well. It doesn’t mean we agree with trump (or Hitler) it’s just an acknowledgement of charisma.

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          Edit, well, looks like this is just as bad as reddit. Not sure what I expected.

          Try truth social, that is where you will find your people.

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            Yes, acknowledging trumps ability to communicate makes me a republican.

            But in all seriousness, people always talk about how trump benefits so much from Twitter and wields social media in a dangerous and effective way. So how is my argument any different?

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              I call him Tim Apple all the time. I just think it’s funny and he probably hates it. I just hate Apple as a company in most ways, so being annoying is fun. Not like hell see anything I say anyway, but it makes me chuckle.

              I didn’t see any pre edit comment, but I agree here.

              I’m no trumpy by a hell of a long shot. A whole political spectrum away. But I don’t condemn him for using the name. At least not if he’s using it intentionally. I’m not convinced he is, though.

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      I generally don’t wish ill will on people. That being said, this asshole isn’t a human in my book. He’s just an evil hate filled pile of shit, and it will be a great day for democracy and America when he does die.

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        I don’t wish harm on anyone, well except Mitch McConnell. Oh, and Steve Bannon. Oh, and Bobo and … Oh, well I guess I do wish plenty of harm.

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        I am not going to openly condemn anyone. That said, Mitch opens himself up to some interesting ethical questions.

        Is it ok to sacrifice one man to save 300 hundred million?

        How about to reduce the medium / long term risk to billions?

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      I want to be very clear: I will never support or condone violence. But when this parasite dies (from natural causes), the entire country will be massively better off for it.

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        All violence is not equal. Unjustified and unprovoked violence is not the same as justified violence in self defense, for example. To say that one does not support violence is to paint with a very large brush and over important nuance and context

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          I don’t believe self-defense is violence. For example, I believe Ukraine has every right to capture, injure, kill, and drive out all Russian invaders as they protect their country.

          I get what you’re saying, but believe me: I understand how broad my brush is, yet I still don’t like violence. In my opinion some things are just black and white… 🤷‍♂️

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            A little surprised that you’re getting downvoted for this, but I suppose your opinion on what constitutes violence is a value judgment rather than a dispassionate definition. Ukraine driving out Russian invaders from their homeland using whatever means necessary, including violence to the fullest extent allowed by the Geneva Convention, is absolutely justified in my book.

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            being justified or not has nothing to do with whether something is violent. if someone is getting hurt, maimed, or killed, that’s violence, no matter how much they deserve it.

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            Sounds like the end justifies the means, which is itself a tricky statement. Though I think I know what you’re saying.

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                I think it is what you’re saying but not what you are intending to say. It sounds like there are conditions under which violence is ok, though violence itself is something to be avoided. Eg. Ukraine can defend itself using violence because violence in defence is ok, which in my mind sounds a lot like the end (self preservation) justifies the means (war).

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        I want to be very clear: I will never support or condone violence. But when this parasite dies (from natural causes), the entire country will be massively better off for it.

        Why? Violence inflicted by pen is still violence. He’s killed thousands.

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        Before you commit to that statement remember that peaceful protests work about 1% of the time.

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          I know it’s frustrating, but some things are more important than the end result. People who have to kill someone are often traumatized. For life. We weren’t built to destroy each other, and by doing so, we also lose some of our humanity…

          If you go out and kill a murderer… the net total of murderers in the world remains the same.

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            I think we are lucky to not have to make those choices.

            My uncle was murdered and my grandma ended up spending a lot of time talking with the murderer. That’s one way. There is also no shortage of stories about people killing those who have traumatized family members (rape and murder). In my case the murderer was troubled, but in other cases (Mitch) they are psychopathic people who I think should be removed from society one way or another. That’s my sentiment towards Mitch and his health problems. I am completely ambivalent about his well being. To be completely anti-violence is a position, but it is a hard one to hold in reality.

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    Anyway, remember how hard he worked to take away benefits from 9/11 first responders?

    I have no sympathy for this man, anybody else want to just reminisce about the horrible shit he’s done instead?

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    These fucking zombies will stay in the government until they decay until dust. What a fucked system. TERM LIMITS YOU FUCKS

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      Just need mandatory retirement at 70 maximum. Term limits have too many downsides. We just need to make them ineligible when they’re too old to think clearly.

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      We have term limits!

      They’re called elections.

      But people are too lazy to go vote. Last election cycle only around HALF the registered voters could be bothered to go vote. If the other half voted, they could overturn pretty much any election in this country. But they can’t be bothered. They rather complain about a lack of term limits online.

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        We have term limits!

        They’re called elections.

        Term limits and elections are not synonymous. A term limit restricts the number of times that a politician can run, it puts them out of office regardless of whether or not they could win another election. They teach this in like the third grade.

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        Unless Biden decides not to run, I’m almost certainly going to vote for him. Not voting or voting third party puts us closer to authoritarian leaders.

        Although at this point, I’m kind of wondering if the GOP has it right on climate change. If climate change is a giant volcano, humanity is free-falling directly into it. The GOP wants to point headfirst and tuck our arms by our side to speed towards it. The DNC wants to deploy a parachute that will ensure we slow down, but still fall into the volcano much more slowly and painfully.

        Sorry Earth. Humanity fucked it up. We were too stupid to figure out fossil fuels and greenhouse gasses early in industrialization. When it was realized at first, greedy business executives hid it from society. When society at large became aware of it, we were too selfish to give up fossil fuels. By the time green energy was made feasible, it was too late to avoid 2C, which may trigger positive feedback processes that humans have no hope of controlling.

        I’m not falling into the trap of “it’s too late so let’s not do anything and drill, baby, drill”, but some days I wonder if the radical energy policy will extend the suffering.

        Anyways, hope everyone has a great Thursday!

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      I’m not sure that would actually fix anything. These old fucks would simply arrange for puppets to take their place. Young yes men who do anything they say. At any time it would be unclear who is actually in power.

      This is already the case with big companies controlling politicians. When it comes to money and power, the scum always find a way.

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        Term limits empower lobbyists and career staffers and encourage legislators to give less of a shit about their constituents. I know “career politician” is often considered a dirty word, but having competent, knowledgeable elected officials is a good thing.

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          They are already openly corrupt. Term limits would result in younger candidates in touch with this century. Lobbyists would also have to bribe new people. It might also break up the ridiculous 100% party voting.

          Not to mention help with our Supreme Court problems. Randomly giving appointments that last decades to whoever is president in at the time is insane.

          I really don’t think we have that many competent elected officials anyway.

          Yes, eliminating gerrymandering and citizens united would be more effective, but I wouldn’t kick term limits out of bed.

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            We have term limits in Florida. They have done nothing to solve any problems, and arguably have made the quality of our officials worse, while giving much more power to lobbyists.

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            None of that has happened in the states that have term limits. If you think Republicans, no matter how long they have been in office, are going to start putting anyone other than Federalist Society drones on the courts, I’m not sure I can have a good faith argument with you.

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            Term limits are as likely as ranked-choice voting, which would also solve a lot of problems but won’t be passed in a significant way in my lifetime

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              They actually just passed ranked choice voting in my city.

              It does seem crazy to have a system where 49% of people preferred the other guy, but he lost so those people now get zero representation.

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            Term limits would result in younger candidates in touch with this century.

            Yes cuz that’s worked so well in places that already have them…

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            Lobbyists would also have to bribe new people.

            No they’d hand pick them, run them on utter lies that they can’t be challenged, then throw them out when the public wises up. You seriously underestimate how far the power dynamic can swing.

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          On the other hand, the current system of “representatives spend one full year campaigning and one full year fundraising for their party, so any legislation they sponsor in their two-year term is already written by lobbyists” isn’t working out so hot either.

          Throw in a law restricting campaigning more than three months before an election and a law limiting campaigns to only spending equally-dispersed public funds, and you might start to see some improvement. Oh, and reverse Citizen’s United and ban Super PACs while you’re at it. And can we all get a free unicorn too?

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          yeah, because the current batch of politicians are sooooo concerned with their constituents.

          On the other hand, lets ignore the fact that the vast majority of senators (and the president, and most presidential canidates,) are so “experienced” that the majority of their experience predates… the internet. Never mind social media or anything resembling the modern world we find our selves in.

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              Yep. Why is 65 not a forced retirement for politicians, when it is used in many less important industries?

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          There is definitely reasonable legislation that can have the best of both worlds here. That’s a poor argument against them

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            We have about 25 years worth of experiments with it in various states, so it’s been well studied. Legislating is a skill that needs to be developed, just like anything else, and a bunch of term-limited newbies have no incentive to do anything except get ready for the next thing, which only enhances the possiblity of corruption.

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        I don’t think term limits will solve anything near what people pitching term limits as a panacea think they will solve.

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          People that pitch that as a catch-all solution have no idea how democracy works, they’re just understandably angry at the old white men who have ruined all our lives.

          All term limits would do is make it middle aged white men ruining our lives.

          Like, these people don’t seem to understand where politicians come from or how they get to be where they are.

          Mitch McConnell is the Senator from Kentucky. Trump won that state both years by 60%. It hasn’t elected a Democratic Senator since 1992. In fact, that Democratic Senator retired, ya know, as old men should. Then a Republican took that seat.

          So who do you think takes Mitch McConnell’s seat if we boot him out for old age? Does it matter who? We know what letter will be next to their name.

          It’s the people. The problem is the people. And the structure of the Senate that gives them disproportionate power.

          Also, look at the young Republicans like Madison Cawthorn and tell me they’re any better than their seniors.

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            really, a lot of our problems boil down to “humans are just generally pretty shit”

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            A better example is Joe Manchin. The thought of primarying him is laughable. Just hand the Republicans a full Seat in the senate why don’t you.

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          It will definitely solve some problems while causing arguably no new ones, I think that’s enough to push for something to happen.

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        Bernie, Joe, and the other guy are all within 4 years of age with each other. Bernie is the only one in that group who’s decided NOT to run, so I’m not sure why you’re singling him out. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯ Generally the opinion I’ve seen from his supporters is that he can do better from his current position and that his chance at the presidency has passed.

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        When there’s only one politician of any consequence out there who represents your views…

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    Lmao

    The libs bending over backwards to lick his arse in the name of “civility” despite spending every single day of his life working to kill the poor and inflict maximum suffering on the working class in the name of extracting the largest amount of wealth into bougie pockets all deserve the same suffering. The man has killed thousands of people with a pen. Frankly this only happening to him now that he’s 81 is far less than he deserves.

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        Paying him empathy is a slap in the face to all of his victims.

        You wouldn’t do this shit for anyone else that murders children. I 100% guarantee you that this man has killed hundreds of children in his lifetime.

        The issue you libs have is that you believe that the institutional murder that these fucks perform is magically different to murder that isn’t institutional. It allows you to look the other way when they perform horrors that are unspeakably more evil, and then to performatively pretend you’re on some moral high ground for being nice to someone far far far worse than any person that has directly murdered with their hands. You’re not on moral high ground for it, all it does is highlight the incredible lack of principles that liberals have, that institutions and performing in the ritual acts of the civic religion are more meaningful to you than the actual pain, suffering and death they’ve reaped upon people.

        It’s one of many reasons so many people continue to stop calling themselves liberals and start calling themselves socialists, anarchists, communists, or some other variant of real leftist.

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          💯 with you here. Fuck McConnell. Some people do deserve to die for all the horrible things they’ve done to their fellow man. He’s one of them. Limbaugh was another.

          Just wish it didn’t take 81 years to happen. He’s lived a long and full life, and that’s a terrible reward for all the hate and evil and death he’s brought into this world.

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          I don’t have a choice of who I am empathetic to. It’s just a core part of my personality.

          I agree he is a terrible person. I agree he shouldn’t be legislating. I agree he has caused untold suffering. I can’t stand the man. He angers me, he infuriates me, and when I hear him I want to beat him senseless. I can even agree that he should probably be dead.

          I’ll still have empathy to him.

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            and when I hear him I want to beat him senseless

            Clearly not. Or you wouldn’t have this emotional reaction.

            You can let go of this, simply recognise that some people are real monsters and that sometimes those monsters do in fact thoroughly deserve it. The emotional reaction you’re having is, in fact, latent propaganda still living in your bones, put there by having heard it from liberals postering as the “good people” over and over again by doing this shit.

            Nobody has empathy for Mussolini swinging upside down until he died. The institutional propaganda implying you should have empathy for political opponents is just not pushed for him, and so the feeling doesn’t exist. That’s what this is, a feeling created by institutional propaganda that you absolutely don’t need to have for any monsters. You do not need to feel bad.

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          Well liberal means you’re pro-liberty. Which is a virtue that is up there with freedom and justice, so I don’t see liberals going anywhere soon.

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              Liberal’ shares a root with ‘liberty’ and can mean anything from “generous” to “loose” to “broad-minded.” Politically, it means ““a person who believes that government should be active in supporting social and political change.”

              Hmkay

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                When using liberal to refer to liberal parties that believe in liberal democracy then liberal means capital L - Liberalism. I understand that this is the first time you’ve actually spoken to people to the left of you but this is extremely basic political ideology 101. Socialists hate liberals, they are our political enemy, we use lib as if it is were slur, and we do not call ourselves liberals. Socialists do not support capitalism, liberals do.

                If you have other questions I suggest that rather than arguing with me about it you visit basically any socialist community to see that essentially everyone in any of them will agree with what I’ve just said.

                Yes “liberal” can mean “free” and “believes in egalitarianism and a live and let live set of living standards when it comes to peoples personal choices” when applied to cultural beliefs. This is not the political meaning. The two have been intentionally conflated by liberals(political) in order to confuse you politically and ensure that your political education and literacy is absolutely garbage.

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                  A communist and being wrong, name a more iconic duo. Have fun forever fighting for a system that will be just as shit and corrupt as capitalism. Humans are shit, they will always corrupt and a system run by smarmy assholes is doomed.

                  Yeah tankies think liberal is a slur kinda like Republicans do. Weird how it’s just used as some kind of boogieman dogwhistle to rile up their supporters? Not really based in reality as most people who like having rights and freedom are going to be LIBERAL. Which means don’t FUCK with our LIBERTIES, BITCH.

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            That is not what liberal means. It’s an ideology from the enlightenment based on the emancipation of the individual as being key to the emancipation of society. It has completely failed.

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              You just described liberty?

              relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise

              It definately hasn’t failed. Not yet, as those things defined still exist.

              Not really unsympathetic to the tankies plight, as it is my own, but I think some of you guys are smoking a special kind of Kool aid.

              Communism isn’t a magical fix for all our problems. Sure more of those ideas should be implemented into our system, universal Healthcare, a more centralized means of production, wealth caps, term limits, etcetera. All great ideas. The only way they’ll happen is with a more unified country. Or war. A long and terrible one that will completely destroy us. Now I know the idea sounds romantic, but I promise you it’s not. You’re better off coming to the table with your head on straight.

              Edit: But fuck mconnel. I hope he gets Ebola and shits out his own insides

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                individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise

                Where do these things exist? They don’t exist much in the USA for example.

                Communism isn’t a magical fix for all our problems

                Its aim is to fix these problems, capitalism’s aim is to make money for a small group of people using liberalism to trick them into helping.

                The only way they’ll happen is with a more unified country. Or war. A long and terrible one that will completely destroy us.

                The political class are united, they have the country’s workers fighting over niche issues like gay rights etc while they kill millions around the globe and do whatever it takes to maintain the privilege of a few.

                Agreed about Mc Connell.

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                  Where do these things exist? They don’t exist much in the USA for example

                  I’m sorry what? Freedom of speech? Civil rights act? Freedom of assembly? The right to bare arms? Etcetera?

                  Its aim is to fix these problems,

                  How? Through violent revolution with a benevolent authoritarian leader? Seize the means and then humans just stop being corruptible shitheads? Okay buddy

                  capitalism’s aim is to make money for a small group of people

                  Capitalism doesn’t have an aim. Like communism it will do what you direct it to do. If you’re going to try to revolutionize you might as well fix the system you already have instead of going to war.

                  using liberalism to trick them into helping

                  Yeah see this is that kool-aid bullshit you guys must have been smoking in the LateStageCapitalism ban chamber all those years. Liberals OPPOSE these same assholes they are not your enemy you dumb fuck

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          Spot on man. I used to call myself a democrat and now i hate (yes actually hate) the party with more fiery passion than the Republicans.

          it could be the part they play in this farce, the browbeating to vote for them as if it’s my duty to vote for them as a citizen to fight the Rs regardless of the Ds platform. Then they do fuck all and tell me its not that they don’t want to, i just don’t understand politics to know that they cant.

          I prefer the naked hated of the R party. L, frankly. Its frightening, but less paternal, insulting, and demeaning.

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            I hear you, but I think there is still value in voting D, if only to make the Overton window shift slower.

            If the election is close or contested, Dems can pretend their hands are tied and let Rs enact their facist bs. If Dems own the house, they’ll need to do something or come up with some other bullshit excuse not to enact more left leaning policies. In an ideal world there’d be real consequences to them if they meandered like they usually do.

            It’s not great though, happy to hear your perspective.

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      It wasn’t a stroke, his demon handler was sharing some extremely important information on how Mitch must next cause the most suffering… he was listening to his master.

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    A speech that was filled with less deceit and dishonesty than any other he’s made during his tenure

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    Is it bad that I hope this is a sign of medical issues that will force him into retirement? I’m sick of a misogynist turtle calling the shots.

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      Like, I generally wouldn’t wish this type of thing on someone, but I think about how many people are going to die as a result of him stealing a SC seat and ramming ACB through, or even just his stonewalling anything an Obama tried to do just so Obama couldn’t get the W regardless of how many people’s lives were hurt, ruined, or ended, and I gotta say, I really wonder what I’m having for dinner tonight. I think I’ll have a dessert though, maybe ice cream, but open to suggestions.

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      Unfortunately, probably not. Reminder that there’s a rep that’s practically at the point of being Weekend at Burnie’s-ed

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      Someone will take his place and do the same stuff. He’s just the focus for blame. He offers cover to others.

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        If we’re being honest, the replacement senator will be even worse. And the Republican Senate leader will be worse.

        Which is a horrible thought

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    proof that old fuckers shouldn’t be allowed in politics due to a literally dysfunctioning brain

    EDIT: to say ‘ageism is bigotry’ is a gross oversimplification. I’m not prejudiced against people above a certain age, I’m against the idea of allowing individuals with dementia or other degenerative conditions having political control over other people while literally having impeded brain functioning and judgement.

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      I’ve had some relatives reach a very old age and this kind of thing is just part of the territory.

      However my aged relatives were not in positions of great power. Neither should this man be.

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      TBH, I’m ok with ageism, we already do it. It’s clear a 6 year old can’t run the country, it should be just as clear a 76 year old can’t either for the same reasons, mental development stage.

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        I find it interesting in the US that discriminating against the young is socially acceptable, while discriminating against the elderly is social suicide. Shows how much political power the Boomers wield.

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      This is a reminder that Dianne Feinstein is still in office, too. She’s not even lucid anymore.

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      Feinstein and now McConnell. It shouldn’t be necessary but it’s now bipartisan proof that maybe we should force people of a certain age into retirement.

      I’ll happily admit to being ageist. I don’t care. Once you hit the mid 70s (arguably earlier) you should be ordered to go the fuck home by Congress.

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        if it’s ageist to say that people can be too old to be in government, then it’s definitely ageist to say they can be too young, too.

        Imagine having a toddler command the nuclear football. (oh wait. we already had that.)

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          Unfortunately, ageism in the US is only illegal against older adults. I really struggled with this when I was overseeing young volunteers, one of whom was being treated like crap just because he was young by the older people he was volunteering for. Totally legal for them to outright speak of his age as making him useless (and he was a good worker! and kind!). I was so angry that I couldn’t do much of anything to help him.

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      I worked in congress in 2002 after I graduated. The congressman I worked for was old to me then. I saw him on tv the other day and the guy looked one foot in the grave. I hadn’t thought about him in years and then I saw him and I’m like dude wtf why are you still working?! It’s shocking.

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          No. Bigotry is when you assign a presumption to a group based on a completely unrelated parameter associated with that group. It would not be bigotry to limit the age of those serving in congress. It is bigotry to say that every old person’s brain doesn’t work.

          “proof that old fuckers shouldn’t be allowed in politics due to a literally dysfunctioning brain”

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            So by and large young brains don’t work as well as adult brains. The same is true for the elderly. Your argument makes no sense except you’re biased against the young. During Vietnam would you rather have had Nixon and
            Kissinger in charge or some wicked smart 17 year old hippies. I know what most people would choose these days.

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      I live how you guys say this, while also demanding Bernie, a fucking dinosaur himself

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        If there was another candidate who held the same values, but was of a younger age. I’d go for the younger one for sure.

        It’s not Bernie because he’s amazing. It’s because he’s the best we got.

        Same how I vote for x party, not because they are good. But because they are less bad.