the democrats have proven that they’re not going to stop this and your fellow liberals are more politically aligned w you than w me; so what are you doing to prevent it?
The bare minimum. Admittedly it’s not much, but even .0000000000000001 is infinitely larger than 0.
I’m not any less disillusioned with the system than you are. But I also admit to myself honestly that I am not going to get out there and man the barricades. At least the minimum is SOMETHING.
You don’t like the options? Fine. You should at least be building another one. What are you, a nihilist?
Nobody thinks the democrats did the right thing in 2024. It’s not like you’re delivering some special message everyone didn’t get. The primary was shit and the party is shit. I’ll give you the gold star for correctly identifying that there’s a problem if you want. But identifying the problem is not a SOLUTION. What’s your plan? What have you got? Because all I see is endless harping on the problem, and that’s nothing.
There’s microplastics in the food. So what? Am I going to stop eating?
Any schmuck can sit there and complain and nitpick. Let me know when you’ve got ACTIONS TO TAKE TO SOLVE IT. Contradiction is not a plan.
The way I’m constantly hearing complaints and observations without a lick of solutions or activity, it’s like I’m listening to the mainstream media.
Jesus Christ, this must be a bot. Clearly their code must suck hard if they’re literally saying “it’s your problem, not mine, I’m doing the bare minimum, drinking my dioxin kool-aid while complaining about everyone else not doing the work for me”. What a pathetic excuse for self-justification.
Rage, you sad fuck, rage against the dying of the light. Your utter lack of conviction belies your inner paucity of self.
Also not a plan or a solution. You’re free to attack me all day - it won’t change anything one way or another. I just wish I could hear SOMETHING about what you expect people to do instead of what you expect them to NOT do.
Go forth into the streets. Go forth with thy torch and pitchfork. Make government afraid of its people, by whatever means necessary. Tear down the institution of corpocracy, block the infrastructure on which the profit margins rely. Do you want something that will ACTUALLY make things change? Use human bodies to block I-80 westbound from NY and eastbound through the Sierra Nevada. Block I-95 southbound from Bethesda. THAT will get a response. There may not be a single magic bullet, but I can sure as hell say that loafing fuckers like you who fiddle while their planet burns are the worst of us. Apathy is worse than action of any kind. Unlike the souls of the poor deluded fuckers who believe that what their leaders tell them to do will make their world better, people like you have convinced themselves that inaction is prudence, your soul is just a cobwebbed hollow where once might have burned fire. Have you truly not noticed that your accusation of nihilism above is projection? Can you not see the imbecility of complaining that all you can read are complaints?
Go touch grass, thou frost-limned concretion of flesh. Maybe you’ll thaw enough to appreciate the Bermuda Grass before it, too, falls to the impending doom to which we are all damned.
why not be significantly more effective than 1 millionth of a percent and join the 3-9% of american voters that have been trying to warn liberals that democrats are shit every election for the last several decades w a third party?
Warning them clearly isn’t doing anything. They’re not going to change. They’re not getting behind anything truly progressive. But I don’t see the 3-9% of American voters building an alternative. That’s a PRETTY big number - that’s millions of people… are they all just content to criticize and not actually MAKE an alternative? The rest of us are here - surely some of you are motivated enough to give US an alternative to the democrats? Why is it the democrats that have to make an alternative that’s palatable to YOU? This argument goes both ways, you know.
And the CLINCHER is it doesn’t have to be either/or. It’s ENTIRELY possible to both do the bare minimum AND also build the alternative at the same time.
But no, we’re just gonna ride the worst of both worlds into hell. Fine by me, I guess.
that 3-9% is the percentage of americans who have been paying attention to how shitty the democrats & republicans are and have been actively trying to build a better alternative through the green, socialist, libetarian, etc. parties. (atleast so until democrats and republicans join forces to quash them over and over and over again).
you either practice what you’re preaching here and give them your support or just sit & complain. like the other 90% of american voters, the choice is yours; you either keep voting for the 2 parties that have been cooperating w each other to bring us here or you try the only real alternatives that you’ve been willfully ignoring for the last several decades because of what the propaganda tells you about 3rd party voting and fptp deadlocking.
The democrats don’t inspire you with confidence? Fair.
The greens? The socialists? I’ve looked at Jill Stein… I’ve looked at De La Cruz… They don’t impress me either. In the same way you don’t owe the democrats a vote, progressives don’t owe a vote to a candidate just because they’re not a republican or democrat. Find someone inspiring and take advantage of the fact the internet has unprecedented reach.
I just looked at your post history. You’ve been here a year. I don’t see a SINGLE post supporting a third party candidate. You’re not stumping for Stein… You’re not stumping for anybody. Do you want them to MAGICALLY gain support?
Speaking of practicing what you preach… How am I supposed to get behind a third party candidate when the people who are ostensibly on that side can’t even be bothered?
that’s because .world defederated from the most active core of the leftists lemmyverse and effectively robbed you of the needful information that you need to make an informed choice; just like the democrats like to do to its base.
do yourself a favor and join another instance and maybe then you’ll see how proud i have been to throw my support (both voting and canvasing) for psl.
Okay, that may be the case, and that may be fair, but if you’re only posting into instances that already support you, is it really helpful?
No third party candidate will win without support. Support must be visible and passionate. And it must be visible and passionate to people who aren’t already on your side, otherwise it’s an echo chamber. Nobody - not Republicans, not Democrats, not Greens, not Socialists, is going to win by waiting for people to come seek THEM out.
you’re literally reading my comments from an instance that is capable of tolerating other instances that do not align with them politically; your instance is not capable of that and that makes it much more of an echo chamber than mine.
and politics is a responsibility that you have to do as an functioning adult; like taxes or clothing yourself. only the rich can afford to outsource their responsibilities and they have done so through the democrats and republicans.
the democrats have proven that they’re not going to stop this and your fellow liberals are more politically aligned w you than w me; so what are you doing to prevent it?
The bare minimum. Admittedly it’s not much, but even .0000000000000001 is infinitely larger than 0.
I’m not any less disillusioned with the system than you are. But I also admit to myself honestly that I am not going to get out there and man the barricades. At least the minimum is SOMETHING.
You don’t like the options? Fine. You should at least be building another one. What are you, a nihilist?
Democrats had options.
Remember Marianne Williamson?
Democrats were all like, nah, give me the guy with evident public dementia instead.
Every single time, it’s like a broken record.
Nobody thinks the democrats did the right thing in 2024. It’s not like you’re delivering some special message everyone didn’t get. The primary was shit and the party is shit. I’ll give you the gold star for correctly identifying that there’s a problem if you want. But identifying the problem is not a SOLUTION. What’s your plan? What have you got? Because all I see is endless harping on the problem, and that’s nothing.
There’s microplastics in the food. So what? Am I going to stop eating?
Any schmuck can sit there and complain and nitpick. Let me know when you’ve got ACTIONS TO TAKE TO SOLVE IT. Contradiction is not a plan.
The way I’m constantly hearing complaints and observations without a lick of solutions or activity, it’s like I’m listening to the mainstream media.
Jesus Christ, this must be a bot. Clearly their code must suck hard if they’re literally saying “it’s your problem, not mine, I’m doing the bare minimum, drinking my dioxin kool-aid while complaining about everyone else not doing the work for me”. What a pathetic excuse for self-justification.
Rage, you sad fuck, rage against the dying of the light. Your utter lack of conviction belies your inner paucity of self.
Also not a plan or a solution. You’re free to attack me all day - it won’t change anything one way or another. I just wish I could hear SOMETHING about what you expect people to do instead of what you expect them to NOT do.
Go forth into the streets. Go forth with thy torch and pitchfork. Make government afraid of its people, by whatever means necessary. Tear down the institution of corpocracy, block the infrastructure on which the profit margins rely. Do you want something that will ACTUALLY make things change? Use human bodies to block I-80 westbound from NY and eastbound through the Sierra Nevada. Block I-95 southbound from Bethesda. THAT will get a response. There may not be a single magic bullet, but I can sure as hell say that loafing fuckers like you who fiddle while their planet burns are the worst of us. Apathy is worse than action of any kind. Unlike the souls of the poor deluded fuckers who believe that what their leaders tell them to do will make their world better, people like you have convinced themselves that inaction is prudence, your soul is just a cobwebbed hollow where once might have burned fire. Have you truly not noticed that your accusation of nihilism above is projection? Can you not see the imbecility of complaining that all you can read are complaints?
Go touch grass, thou frost-limned concretion of flesh. Maybe you’ll thaw enough to appreciate the Bermuda Grass before it, too, falls to the impending doom to which we are all damned.
Totally, man.
I’m the problem.
why not be significantly more effective than 1 millionth of a percent and join the 3-9% of american voters that have been trying to warn liberals that democrats are shit every election for the last several decades w a third party?
Warning them clearly isn’t doing anything. They’re not going to change. They’re not getting behind anything truly progressive. But I don’t see the 3-9% of American voters building an alternative. That’s a PRETTY big number - that’s millions of people… are they all just content to criticize and not actually MAKE an alternative? The rest of us are here - surely some of you are motivated enough to give US an alternative to the democrats? Why is it the democrats that have to make an alternative that’s palatable to YOU? This argument goes both ways, you know.
And the CLINCHER is it doesn’t have to be either/or. It’s ENTIRELY possible to both do the bare minimum AND also build the alternative at the same time.
But no, we’re just gonna ride the worst of both worlds into hell. Fine by me, I guess.
that 3-9% is the percentage of americans who have been paying attention to how shitty the democrats & republicans are and have been actively trying to build a better alternative through the green, socialist, libetarian, etc. parties. (atleast so until democrats and republicans join forces to quash them over and over and over again).
you either practice what you’re preaching here and give them your support or just sit & complain. like the other 90% of american voters, the choice is yours; you either keep voting for the 2 parties that have been cooperating w each other to bring us here or you try the only real alternatives that you’ve been willfully ignoring for the last several decades because of what the propaganda tells you about 3rd party voting and fptp deadlocking.
Okay, it’s my turn.
The democrats don’t inspire you with confidence? Fair.
The greens? The socialists? I’ve looked at Jill Stein… I’ve looked at De La Cruz… They don’t impress me either. In the same way you don’t owe the democrats a vote, progressives don’t owe a vote to a candidate just because they’re not a republican or democrat. Find someone inspiring and take advantage of the fact the internet has unprecedented reach.
I just looked at your post history. You’ve been here a year. I don’t see a SINGLE post supporting a third party candidate. You’re not stumping for Stein… You’re not stumping for anybody. Do you want them to MAGICALLY gain support?
Speaking of practicing what you preach… How am I supposed to get behind a third party candidate when the people who are ostensibly on that side can’t even be bothered?
that’s because .world defederated from the most active core of the leftists lemmyverse and effectively robbed you of the needful information that you need to make an informed choice; just like the democrats like to do to its base.
do yourself a favor and join another instance and maybe then you’ll see how proud i have been to throw my support (both voting and canvasing) for psl.
Okay, that may be the case, and that may be fair, but if you’re only posting into instances that already support you, is it really helpful?
No third party candidate will win without support. Support must be visible and passionate. And it must be visible and passionate to people who aren’t already on your side, otherwise it’s an echo chamber. Nobody - not Republicans, not Democrats, not Greens, not Socialists, is going to win by waiting for people to come seek THEM out.
you’re literally reading my comments from an instance that is capable of tolerating other instances that do not align with them politically; your instance is not capable of that and that makes it much more of an echo chamber than mine.
and politics is a responsibility that you have to do as an functioning adult; like taxes or clothing yourself. only the rich can afford to outsource their responsibilities and they have done so through the democrats and republicans.
The user is a fascist apologist. I wouldn’t expect too much out of them.