that 3-9% is the percentage of americans who have been paying attention to how shitty the democrats & republicans are and have been actively trying to build a better alternative through the green, socialist, libetarian, etc. parties. (atleast so until democrats and republicans join forces to quash them over and over and over again).
you either practice what you’re preaching here and give them your support or just sit & complain. like the other 90% of american voters, the choice is yours; you either keep voting for the 2 parties that have been cooperating w each other to bring us here or you try the only real alternatives that you’ve been willfully ignoring for the last several decades because of what the propaganda tells you about 3rd party voting and fptp deadlocking.
The democrats don’t inspire you with confidence? Fair.
The greens? The socialists? I’ve looked at Jill Stein… I’ve looked at De La Cruz… They don’t impress me either. In the same way you don’t owe the democrats a vote, progressives don’t owe a vote to a candidate just because they’re not a republican or democrat. Find someone inspiring and take advantage of the fact the internet has unprecedented reach.
I just looked at your post history. You’ve been here a year. I don’t see a SINGLE post supporting a third party candidate. You’re not stumping for Stein… You’re not stumping for anybody. Do you want them to MAGICALLY gain support?
Speaking of practicing what you preach… How am I supposed to get behind a third party candidate when the people who are ostensibly on that side can’t even be bothered?
that’s because .world defederated from the most active core of the leftists lemmyverse and effectively robbed you of the needful information that you need to make an informed choice; just like the democrats like to do to its base.
do yourself a favor and join another instance and maybe then you’ll see how proud i have been to throw my support (both voting and canvasing) for psl.
Okay, that may be the case, and that may be fair, but if you’re only posting into instances that already support you, is it really helpful?
No third party candidate will win without support. Support must be visible and passionate. And it must be visible and passionate to people who aren’t already on your side, otherwise it’s an echo chamber. Nobody - not Republicans, not Democrats, not Greens, not Socialists, is going to win by waiting for people to come seek THEM out.
you’re literally reading my comments from an instance that is capable of tolerating other instances that do not align with them politically; your instance is not capable of that and that makes it much more of an echo chamber than mine.
and politics is a responsibility that you have to do as an functioning adult; like taxes or clothing yourself. only the rich can afford to outsource their responsibilities and they have done so through the democrats and republicans.
Look, I disagree with your take on .ml being tolerant, since I actually started there. But we need to stop engaging with this fucker. They’re already a vacuous husk of a soul that still thinks it lives. They’ve decided that inaction is prudence, and apathy is wisdom, and nothing we do will convince them otherwise.
that 3-9% is the percentage of americans who have been paying attention to how shitty the democrats & republicans are and have been actively trying to build a better alternative through the green, socialist, libetarian, etc. parties. (atleast so until democrats and republicans join forces to quash them over and over and over again).
you either practice what you’re preaching here and give them your support or just sit & complain. like the other 90% of american voters, the choice is yours; you either keep voting for the 2 parties that have been cooperating w each other to bring us here or you try the only real alternatives that you’ve been willfully ignoring for the last several decades because of what the propaganda tells you about 3rd party voting and fptp deadlocking.
Okay, it’s my turn.
The democrats don’t inspire you with confidence? Fair.
The greens? The socialists? I’ve looked at Jill Stein… I’ve looked at De La Cruz… They don’t impress me either. In the same way you don’t owe the democrats a vote, progressives don’t owe a vote to a candidate just because they’re not a republican or democrat. Find someone inspiring and take advantage of the fact the internet has unprecedented reach.
I just looked at your post history. You’ve been here a year. I don’t see a SINGLE post supporting a third party candidate. You’re not stumping for Stein… You’re not stumping for anybody. Do you want them to MAGICALLY gain support?
Speaking of practicing what you preach… How am I supposed to get behind a third party candidate when the people who are ostensibly on that side can’t even be bothered?
that’s because .world defederated from the most active core of the leftists lemmyverse and effectively robbed you of the needful information that you need to make an informed choice; just like the democrats like to do to its base.
do yourself a favor and join another instance and maybe then you’ll see how proud i have been to throw my support (both voting and canvasing) for psl.
Okay, that may be the case, and that may be fair, but if you’re only posting into instances that already support you, is it really helpful?
No third party candidate will win without support. Support must be visible and passionate. And it must be visible and passionate to people who aren’t already on your side, otherwise it’s an echo chamber. Nobody - not Republicans, not Democrats, not Greens, not Socialists, is going to win by waiting for people to come seek THEM out.
you’re literally reading my comments from an instance that is capable of tolerating other instances that do not align with them politically; your instance is not capable of that and that makes it much more of an echo chamber than mine.
and politics is a responsibility that you have to do as an functioning adult; like taxes or clothing yourself. only the rich can afford to outsource their responsibilities and they have done so through the democrats and republicans.
Look, I disagree with your take on .ml being tolerant, since I actually started there. But we need to stop engaging with this fucker. They’re already a vacuous husk of a soul that still thinks it lives. They’ve decided that inaction is prudence, and apathy is wisdom, and nothing we do will convince them otherwise.
The user is a fascist apologist. I wouldn’t expect too much out of them.