People should have voted in primaries, then. I did. Both times. Clearly not enough did.
Death to the DNC never forget
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As a non American I don’t see why the democratic party should have chosen a guy who deliberately chose to spend his entire career outside the democratic party.
Because their would be constituents wanted him.
Great, then mirror some of his policies. However were I a democratic politician, I simply would not reward a politician who has been outside the party structure for decades with endorsement for presidency. For me it would effectively be like skipping the queue.
People vote, not land.
Biden doubled Bernie’s votes in the 2020 primaries. Which Bernie was a part of because the DNC chose him to participate in.
Bernie was clearly ahead until the DNC gave all the other candidates marching orders to drop out and endorse a senile old man in severe cognitive decline to prevent any movement to the left that would threaten the legalized bribery the democratic party grows fat on.we could have had FDR 2.0 instead we got reagan and nixon’s bastard love child a second time because biden was such a sad excuse of an incoherent puppet he made jimmy carter look good and even as though a second carter administration would have been preferable.
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I’ve been saying since 2016 that Sanders’ executive orders alone would have moved the US further in the right direction than any president since LBJ.
The last six months of Donald Trump have proven that. The presidency has all the power any party needs if they actually want to do real good.
LeBron James?
I think its hilarious how before Trumps 2nd term, the libshits would argue "but if they use executive orders to push through {legalization of abortion, marijuana, socialized healthcare, public transit, any number of good left leaning policies} the R’s will do it back when theyre back in office!!
Now look where we are.
fucking libshits and MAGAts.
Yeah, elder statesmen like Biden still believed in things like exercising power responsibly within the balance of power like many presidents before them.
That wasn’t good enough, too many people took the “lesser evil” quote to heart. So now we have a dipshit writing EOs faster than the court system moves, and I hope there’s a god to help the country get out of this.
Stop huffing your own farts
Yeah so Biden did an executive order to forgive student debt, it got challenged in the courts and so it didn’t happen.
People saying “Democrats should just do executive orders like Trump does” need to look into who’s on the Supreme Court.
The “do everything by EO” strat only works for a party that has had a loyal voting base for decades so they have control of the courts.
Sorry to interrupt the “both sides” narrative leftists/MAGAs love so much.
^ This. If we’re lucky enough to get a Democratic president willing to abuse the executive order system the way Trump is, and make no mistake, it IS abuse… the same Supreme Court that ruled “Well, the President can do it” would look at a Democratic President and go “Whoah, woah, whoah, we didn’t mean YOU could do it.”
No, the real strat is to ram hundreds of EOs through so fast the courts don’t have time to shoot them all down. And then, I dunno, drone strike the opposition and call it an official presidential act cause evidently that’s cool now.
Exactly, it was all set up in the first term. They not only got the Supreme Court but also put in place a record number of judges across the country as well. They went for the throat, and everyone let them. Now you have corrupt people everywhere they need to do whatever they want, and also showed that even if they do get shot down, they still don’t listen, and nothing happens, so whats the actual point?
Let’s not forget they’ve spent the past 4-8 years putting their people into the right places to allow them to start doing whatever they want.
You say this as if the dems could have never done what they did.
we had better damn well put in a president who’s gonna EO everything to the far left
That’s still completely true. Not only that, Congress and SCOTUS can nullify any executive order.
haha, yes they sure can. And they have! Look at how well its going!
There are only “checks and balances” when all 3 branches of government are not fascist/corrupt.
None of these things can be performed by executive order. A big reason that bill just had to be passed was his deportations and detainings couldn’t be performed without money from Congress
Sanders’ EOs with a conservative Supreme Court would have been unilaterally nullified. The conservative supermajority is what has allowed Trump to get away with the vast majority of this.
Sanders’ EOs with a conservative Supreme Court would have been unilaterally nullified.
If they’d run Sanders, they’ve had ended up with a Democratic supermajority. SCOTUS would have been largely irrelevant.
But it doesn’t change facts. The powers of the presidency in the hands of an actual reformer, not a performative one like Biden or Obama, would have entailed true, fundamental change.
If they’d run Sanders, they’ve had ended up with a Democratic supermajority.
Least delusional Sanders revisionist take.
I love hearing from centrists, who’ve shat the bed every election for over a decade. Without COVID we’d currently be in the third Trump term, all because of you folks.
You see AOC and Bernie filling football stadiums in red states and you think: “We should totally nominate Harris again”. Here in Missouri voters approved a $15 minimum wage, required paid sick leave, and legal abortion, but sure, just keep running centrist candidates. That’s totally gonna work.
I wish you all would fight fascism with an iota of the fervor with which you fight the Mamdanis of the world.
A guy on the internet thinking something doesn’t elect the candidate… votes in primaries do. And they have consistently chosen centrists.
$15 minimum wage, required paid sick leave, and legal abortion,
The fact this isn’t a centrist position shows how cooked the US is.
I think the big issue with centrists is they pay absolutely no attention to what’s really happening, but wear the term “centrist” like a badge of honor.
So on one end we have Nazis, and the other end we have Democrats who are mostly Center-Right, and then the centrists try to find the middle of that but not having any idea if what that means.
And then we keep getting the enshitification of the U.S.
Basic human decency is some woke commie lefty bullshit
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The centrist position is pro-starvation and pro-theft of labor wrapped in a rainbow flag. (and a bloody one at that, considering how pro-war they are too.)
Yeah, $15 is so put of date. They were pushing for 15 BACK IN 2008, the last time it moved, before housing prices doubled/tripled. 15 would be trash pay, but it’s still TOO MUCH for corporate owned Democrats to even pretend to support
Leftists consistently lose elections.
Voters have consistently shown they don’t want to elect leftists.
Centrists have won the majority of elections since the 90s.
AOC and Bernie would lose worse than Harris in a national election. Just like all leftists have.
When voters have chosen the option furthest to the right it is stupid to think that running a candidate further left would do anything but lose.
Centrists lost to Trump, the objectively worst candidate for president.
Sanders received a loud applause from a Fox News town hall. I’m not so sure he’d have lost.
When voters have chosen the option furthest to the right it is stupid to think that running a candidate further left would do anything but lose.
Trying to do right-wing policy “better” than the right-wing candidate has consistently lost elections to far-right candidates. All it does is validate the far-right candidate’s positions, and they’ll always be considered “stronger” on those positions
People primarily vote for change, and that’s exactly what the centrists haven’t been able to offer. It’s why Biden lost, it’s why Harris lost, it’s why Clinton lost.
Democrats had to rig not one, but two primaries against Bernard Sanders, and not only did they not deny it, they argued in court that it was their right to do so.
No one fails harder than centrists. They are objectively, evidently pathetic. If COVID hadn’t occurred we’d be in the third Trump presidency, and you’d still be sitting here like a good bootlicker telling me I didn’t vote hard enough for centrists and ignoring that AOC and Bernard Sanders are filling football stadiums in red states.
I repeat: I wish you all fought as hard against fascism as you do for the billionaire class.
AOC and Bernie stopped in my red state. I went and saw more than half the license plates were from out of state. Those that were from my state were from the one blue county.
We recently had an election between an establishment Republican and a progressive and the progressive lost by a landslide.
Don’t lie to yourself. AOC and Bernie have fans that will travel to see them from other states.
Democrats are trying to stop progressives from throwing the election like they have every time they win a primary.
Progressives can’t even beat other candidates that get funded by AIPAC let alone beat republicans.
Centrists do some self reflection challenge: impossible.
That’s wholly incorrect. The only reason Trump’s executive orders have any power is due to the full majority support of the Republican-controlled Congress and the conservative SCOTUS.
Democrats forced a 15-day vote on the constitutionality of Trump’s initial purse-control power grab. The Republican majority redefined the entire congressional calendar as a single day, just to a valid holding the vote.
This amount of control comes from the abject loyalty of all three branches.
sorry LEFTISTS, I will let fascists fuck us all dead before I steer progress away from anything that isn’t Obama-nostalgic capitalism. oh and I’m pretty sure I heard that commie say something about term limits so I’m going to make that all of yous’ problem just for even considering it.
why wouldn’t they? Bernie’s interests are aligned completely opposite to the interests of whatever groups that keep at least half of those democrats in their seats. That became much more clear when they happily voted no to Bernie’s “ban weapon sale to Israel” motions.
Good question.
If Democrats were reasonable, objective people (which they are not), they’d probably look at the fact that the state of Missouri passed a $15 minimum wage, required paid sick leave, AND legalized abortion in the same election where they elected Republicans.
And then take that as a lesson of maybe what they should be doing in order to win back red states.
But they won’t.
They’re in the pocket of the rich and couldn’t care less about people who work for a living.
This is so confusing. Which party, if any, was supporting those measures? How’d they get on the ballot?
We are one of the last states that can still do ballot initiatives. That’s how weed happened anyway.
It’s a bit silly sometimes though, the citizens put initiatives on the ballot that Rs hate and then vote in all the Rs expecting them to implement the stuff in good faith.
The maps says 2019.
Biden won the primary in 2020 and proceeded to win the presidency.
You should know because you’re been posting anti-Biden content since then.
Do you remember the 2020 primary though? Obama called all of the non-Bernie candidates and told them to drop out. They all did and supported Biden.
Sanders won the first 3 primaries in a row and then the establishment freaked out and all fell in line behind Biden.
So Biden won. We all agree!
Okay but before the primaries ended Biden had literally double the votes of Bernie, it wasn’t exactly a close race.
The other candidates gave Biden their delegates. Bernie won the first three primaries and then Obama put his thumb on the scale, just like he did in 2016 with Hillary, convincing/strong arming others to stay out of the race. Obama is to blame for fucking with the primary process for at least 2 out of the last 3 elections, not that Kamala getting put in at the last minute wasn’t also manipulation. Dems haven’t had a free and open primary since 2008.
Okay but he didn’t win by Delegates alone he HAD DOUBLE THE VOTES. Real votes, from millions of individual people.
Yeah, Sanders lost in 2020 just like he did in 2016
I remember that really pissing Trump off because he was pushing hard to run against him.
I don’t think Trump was pushing for Sanders because Trump thought it’d be a harder fight to win.
You remember it pissing him off? Because I remember him thanking the democrats for ratfucking sanders and handing him the presidency.
I remember him saying that after Sanders lost (both times) so he could make the gullible think the system was rigged.
lol buddy I remember vividly what happened in that shit show of a primary. You’d have to be absolutely addled with American liberal propaganda to not see that primary for what it was.
We.re seeing it all over again with mamdani
I think in 2016 the right figured out their propaganda works just as well on ‘leftists’.
Pointing to the results of ratfuckery isn’t a great way to prove that ratfuckery didn’t occur. Why do people try to make this argument so often
Do you think Trump would be pushing for a candidate that would make his race harder?
Clinton did it with Trump so… yes? Fascists are notoriously fucking stupid.
Clinton had too much faith in the average voter.
That is the most blatant hypocrisy I’ve seen in ages.
The berniebro troll has gotten so much mileage.
Plus I think you’re referring to this poll
A Monmouth University poll released Monday showed Sanders and Warren effectively tied with Biden, but the survey has a large margin of error and is an outlier compared with other recent national polls, which have usually shown Biden with a lead of at least several points.
As someone who’s been here since the beginning of the whole Reddit debacle you are correct. That’s been their posting style from as far as I can remember.
Biden won and he was a shit president, the world is worse off for his tenure.
Electing Biden didn’t even stop trump
But Biden won lol the 2016 election is a way better example. Sanders did worse in 2019
YES! The 2016 election had like a 3 Million vote difference, Bernie 13M to Hillary 16M.
2020 was 9 to 19, what an absurd hill to die on.
