Yesterday I spent about 2 hours trying to get ChatGPT to walk me through the install process of putting Arch on a 2011 MacBook Air. It just wouldn’t work and the further along we got the harder it seemed and I really thought that using AI was necessary. I finally gave up and read the Arch Wiki and had it installed in under 45 minutes.
imagine programming on an electric computer. i exclusively generate punch cards for crank operated adding machines
Raw dogging development
I use:
- DuckDuckGo
- Neovim
rustydusty IdeaPadArchNixOS btw
I don’t read man pages but I read documentation.
Am I also a psychopath?
I decided to try Cursor today (first time using any coding assistant) to refactor my sloppy NixOS config, and I’m really impressed to far. My config is so much cleaner and very well documented. It even has automated backups, a
README.md
, andCHANGELOG.md
now!The cost has been ~$20 so far (I’m still tinkering with it).
ETA: I also use
ArchNixOS btw
Edit 2: I asked it “how might I streamline my deployments a little?” It wrote some nicely polished scripts that use deploy-rs, and wrote some nice documentation for it.
The script didn’t work on first run, so I added the console output to the context and asked “what went wrong here?” It debugged and fixed the script, and updated the docs.
I think this has been the most frictionless NixOS experience I’ve had so far
I would not say that. I use a very old 13" Dell XPS laptop. I use Code-Server and duckduckgo. I have be known to program on my 7 year old android tablet with a bluetooth keyboard. For the most part I look at docs for JS modules as I write mostly in Python with Flask and use JS for responsiveness. Before anyone suggests something else I have to interface with a VERY old database that I wrote a webservice into through C#. I do realize there are other ways but python is my comfort point and the amount of backend processing makes it easier to use a “real” language. For my purposes it is plenty fast.
Oh god no, ideapads. My dad has one and the metal parts hardly fit together after a year, the key travel is 1mm and the touchpad is practically useless.
Definitely. I am calling the vibe police right now 🚓
You sound more like a Rage Tuned File Monster, or rtfm for short
Is psychopatl an Aztec insult I don’t know about?
Someone cropped the last line? What a sociopatl
(For any nerd wondering, the name of the language is Nahuatl but I guess Aztec language is more recognizable for the sake of the joke lol)
Type of dinosaur I believe
It cut off the h.
Props for living up to your username
That’s impossible. He would be too busy telling everyone that he uses Arch to get any work done.
Is this supposed to be a joke or have we truly gotten to the point where … coding in a terminal via like hyprland or w/e, without relying on an what is basically an annoying tutorial character from a video game that acts as an assistant…
This is psycopathy?
Having actual competence in one’s field?
Oh god we’re all doomed, they’ll soon be alternating between worshipping us demigods, or burning us at the stake.
Knowledge and skill have now been demonised
It’s a joke on a tweet about a guy spending a multi-hour flight just staring straight ahead.
I’ve done similar things in a coffee shop before, just working on my own code, and I have actually been ‘politely’ asked to leave by the staff.
The staff evidently being a bunch of morons who thought I was… hacking into … something?
They didn’t know what, but they were very concerned.
I was unable to convince them I was not, because ‘terminal’ = ‘hacking’ to idiots who only know anything about computers via movies and tv shows.
Oh my god that’s hilarious.
I thought so too untill they threatened to call the police.
To be fair my wife is a smart lady, but she still thinks I’m invoking some arcane hacking magic when I’m messing around in the terminal.
You mean a BOSS-nian?
Pretty sure it’s gonna be the stake
Why not both? Probably worshipped at the stake.
But how do you remember the syntax???
/sarcasm
What’s that / mean?
quite ironically, they are using syntax, specifically / , to indicate a specific kind of meaning afterward.
/sarcasm
/s
/joking
/j
I’ve seen all these used to more explicitly indicate that the previous statement was sarcastic, or a joke, due to irony being largely dead, but also to help with people may not natively read/speak/write english.
I think he’s searching for sarcasm, no?
Tone indicators, check internet usage section. Hope this helps!
In html you end a text style with a /
So think of how you put an asterisk around words to bold / italicise them on sm. In html it would be <b>bold</b> or <i>italics</i>. The slash is an “end format” indicator
So /s or /sarcasm means “end sarcasm” and indicates by reasoning that the previous statement was sarcasm.
The diamond brackets got dropped because with them they were being interpreted as actual html commands on early forums
hyprland
what?
Wayland based tiling compositor
Yeah my question is does this person and 40+ upvoters think using Hyprland is a sign someone is a competent software engineer?
Your question was “what?”. Appreciate the follow-up question though.
I think he means HyperTerminal. It was the predecessor to Putty basically for serial connections.
No, he meant what he wrote: hyprland
correct, you and droppedpacket beat me to it
This gives me “old man yelling at clouds” energy.
I quite literally yelled at the introduction of ‘the cloud’ as yet another stupid corpo buzzword.
…
I was working at MSFT the first time someone hsd ever asked me if I had a ‘cloud’ backup.
What? Do you mean a remote server, offsite?
No, no, in the cloud!
5 minutes of research later.
Oh, so yes, you do mean on a remote server somewhere.
No, no, in the cloud!
head_desk.jpg
I still use emacs
It’s a fine operating system, what editor do you use?
Oh, many many of them.
Sometimes text-mode, sometimes fundamental-mode, sometimes picture-mode, tex-mode, ess-mode…
This indecent has been reported
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no Google
I do not believe you.
Arch Linux
Okay, fine. A rare sighting.
It is extremely easy to use the internet without using google.
Yeah, otherwise it would have been very hard before they came into being.
Remember when the internet was more than like 5 websites?
Gen Z doesn’t.
There are dozens of us. And we are used to reading manuals, since we first installed our system.
They did it before the Internet was even a thing, my friend.
I was there. I was one of them. I just chose to use tools to make my life easier. Call me a sell out, I guess.
Nope, not a sell out. Just a person using the tools at hand. You can’t just live in the past. You did it without Google back then because there was no Google and you had to use what you had to use. Now you use Google, because again, you have to use what you have to use. In the end, I personally only care about the outcome.
I just chose to use tools to make my life easier
If you don’t then I’d call you stupid. Keep doing that, friend. That’s the best way actually. You want your life easier so you can put out great work.
Google went live in 98? First Arch in 02?
I’m talking about developers in general before even Linux was a thing. I thought that was obvious in my comment. Guess not, I need to work more on my English.
Your English is fine. The same words often evoke different mental images from one person to another. Sometimes I have trouble distinguishing when to embrace literal meanings and when to go with the general gist of words. Thanks for addressing my comment, a gentle reminder for me.
Thank you 🫡
I understood your point fine. I indeed started out with first Commodore BASIC and then into 6502, all using the manuals because there wasn’t much else of a source back then.
Thank you, kindly. I’ve heard that manuals where fun to use (sarcasm). Unfortunately, I am old enough to remember those days, but wasn’t fortunate enough to own or even be able to witness such gems in real life.
I’m literally designing some code now and realized that I used DuckDuckGo to find man pages for system calls… from my Arch laptop. 😑
I remember using man pages when I was contributing to a C open source project back in the day.
C and Bash are the only languagss that man pages are useful for
But he went out of his way to install man pages on arch? Probably a narc.
Aren’t they there by default?
If you’re using arch, you shouldn’t need man pages. Because you use arch, BTW.
Wait, what? Arch has more comprehensive documentation than just about any other distro.
It does. It’s wonderful. But it isn’t installed by default. You have to ask for it. Or use the Internet.
Noop, you have to install the man-db package
No future. Lmao
Yay! Cencorship! I spent an extra 3 seconds focusing on the word psychopath trying to figure out what went wrong instead of reading it like a normal word. Isn’t that so much better than offending an algorithm with the letter ‘h’?
Psychopatl
Wasn’t that one of the Incan gods?
You are thinking of the one they used to design the common keyboard layout, Qwertycoatl.
I’m partial to Tomatl and Ahuacatl
I was thinking Nahuatl
I think it is some kind of winged puma with the bosom of a woman.
I really think you’re being inconsiderate. Advertisers lose $0.02 per non-performing word. Don’t you ever consider the shareholders???
You saw that but not devloper? Buncha amateurs.
Ngl didn’t even notice it was covered until I read your comment
Could also just be a non native English speaker.
There is a couple of pixels coming out from the middle of the ‘l’
Yea fair I guess I’m tired
Well have a nap…
THEN FIRE Z MISSILES!!!
What about the Y missiles?I stand corrected
Normalise living your best life.
The true psychopaths are those sweating about which tools other people use
I can still do this provided that the language is Perl. But the few cases when I actually have to do so are rare, and never in public.
and never in public
Lol
Well yeah, Perl is write-only. Larry Wall asked the monkey’s paw for a language that works on the first try. What’s onscreen are your raw brain patterns.
Thank god it runs like crap. Optimized C isn’t pretty, but any project that compiles proves someone looked at it more than once.
Vim ftw!
I can’t live without vim.
Sometimes I wander into vscode but it’s less productive for me.
Plus vscode has weird name inconsistencies (the app is called visual studio code, it’s branded as vscode, and the menu bar says Code), which is probably normal for Microsoft but unusual elsewhere.
Some of the plugins I find super useful for running stuff remotely, but man do I miss vim while I’m there.
I wouldn’t stress about it. Code was never meant to be edited in a web browser anyway.
and there is also Visual Studio which is a separate thing aswell
I should fork vim and call it ‘death’, so I can shout “give me vim or give me death!” any time someone suggests a different editor.
Helix crew 🖐️
As another Helix user, I’ll gladly accept the high five 👏
My bruh 👊
There are literally dozens of us!
Are you a Helix user and a skater?!
Helix FTW!
nah, neovim
It’s vi… but improved!
Vim but improved is better, aka Neovim
Vimproved
Neovimproved