The Minnesota governor said that the path to tyranny “is littered with people telling you you’re overreacting”

Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz was testifying before Congress about his state’s handling of immigration when he learned Sen. Alex Padilla, D-Calif., was forcibly removed from a Department of Homeland Security news conference Thursday.

The irony, he told the attendees of the Center for American Progress’ “Listening to Lead” event Friday, was in lawmakers grilling him and his colleagues, Govs. Kathy Hochul, D-N.Y. and JB Pritzker, D-Ill., over the “incredible crime of treating people like human beings” as FBI agents tackled a sitting senator to the ground and handcuffed him in Los Angeles.

“I am not prone to hyperbole. I am prone to, like, popping off a little bit. I know that,” Walz said, prefacing his argument that Americans are living in a “dangerous” time. “I believed all along we were marching towards authoritarianism, and people were telling me in December, ‘You know, you’re overreacting.’ And I said, “The road to authoritarianism is littered with people telling you you’re overreacting.”

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    Conservatives have made it abundantly clear that they have zero respect for our Constitution. They are traitors to the United States and enemies of the American people.

    It is past time that we start treating them as such.

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    There goes his Chance at a Democratic Presidential Run! They’ll NEVER let someone who BADMOUTHS their Strategy to Run!

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        The Great Experiment is over. We had a good run. Time to start thinking about what comes next.

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          Pfft…

          There’s only one thing that “comes next”…

          It ain’t pretty and it ain’t gonna make any reasonable/rational folks happy.

          🤦‍♀️ 🤡 🖕 💩

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          What if I told you there was a German philosopher who already did a lot of thinking about that

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    Might be the time for Minnesota to join Canada, Tim. Think big.

    If you want to end politically-motivated gun violence becoming normalized, time to leave the USA and ban guns not used for hunting or within shooting ranges.

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      time to leave the USA and ban guns not used for hunting or within shooting ranges.

      Respectfully Canada has been taking it too far with their gun control.

      Canada has rightfully banned assault rifles/firearms for personal use back in the 90’s however, recently they’ve been banning guns solely based on appearance calling them “assault style firearms”, just because a firearm looks like it belongs in the military does not mean it was designed for such use.

      Edit: I made a post a while back about the Crusader Arms Crypto rifle entirely designed to comply with the recent ban’s on firearms however, the Government of Canada had it reclassified as a prohibited rifle.

      I can attest to the fact that these current bans effect people like myself who enjoy sport shooting at ranges or in the wilderness on crown-land, if a criminal has possession of an illegal firearm there is no chance they’ll lawfully turn it over.

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        I totally understand that overreach makes hunting and recreational shooting activities a lot more difficult.

        On the flipside, it means that assembly in Canada is peaceful by default without the constant threat of escalation into gun violence as can happen in the USA. It means that in our cities, 19 times out of 20 we only have to worry about pointy objects being potentially used as weapons by people walking down the street rather than guns.

        The styling of firearms is just for show over safety I agree. But maintaining a culture of responsibly using firearms as a privilege of partaking in the sport, rather than as a right, is a distinction that gives us Canadians a better quality-of-life overall. There’s far fewer grey areas in Canada as to where and what guns should be legally used for.

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          I absolutely agree with your entire comment and have little to rebuttal against however, with our current governments overreach I fear that we’re being treated unjustly given that the recent bans were enacted via an Order In Council by the previous PM and not through Parliament or the House of Commons.

          I understand public safety is the primary concern here but it’s not licensed/registered firearms causing the increase in our crime, I’ve preached this numerous times on Lemmy, it’s illegal firearms smuggled across the US/Canada border that land in the hands of people intending to commit crime.

          No person is going out of their way to pay & complete the CFSC, apply for a PAL/RPAL, agree to daily background checks from the RCMP, purchase a firearm that has to be registered to them to then commit petty crimes.


          I should note that StatsCan does not differentiate firearm crime from illegal firearms and legal firearms which is ridiculous, we need this data for this debate.

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      I was chastised by a random person at my local protest for joining in a chant of “Fuck Donald Trump”.

      Many of these people are still so attached to the idea of civility politics that they don’t even want anyone to curse.

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        I find that mimicking their gestures to show that I understand their pain helps start the conversation. If you are not wearing a pearl necklace you can clutch, you can and should carry a fancy handkerchief and bring it to your nose as if to ward off a bad smell. Thats my goto when someone uses uncouth language when talking about cancelling SNAP, deporting children, or expanding our support of racist genocides.

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    agreed, now how about supporting genocide, is the time for that over Waltz?
    Hrm?
    Well?
    All quiet all of a sudden eh. Put up or shut up, Waltz. You are a political whore or you’re not. Are you following Biden’s example here or not.

    Its people like Waltz who lost us the last election. You cant run a pro-genocide campaign from the left and expect to win.

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      Hrm?
      Well?
      All quiet all of a sudden eh.

      Are you talking to an imaginary friend, cause we cannot hear him.

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        Maybe you can stick to your Australia politics and get that sorted, eh? You lot have more than enough of your own mess, isn’t that right? But thanks for taking the time to carry water for the genocide, and commenting on politics in another country.

        And I specified ‘Waltz’ in the line before you started copying. So you’re just fabricating some situation to pretend to be correct, arent you.

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          Maybe you can stick to your Australia politics and get that sorted, eh? You lot have more than enough of your own mess, isn’t that right?

          Aussie politics are in amazing shape atm, the right lost harder than it ever has in our entire history, but nice try. Did you have fun looking up my profile?

          But thanks for taking the time to carry water for the genocide, and commenting on politics in another country.

          Like Americans have kept their noses out of other countries politics before. Rules for thee but not for me right?

          And I specified ‘Waltz’ in the line before you started copying. So why are you asking who its for?

          You are talking like he is going to reply to you, when he isn’t. The only conclusion I could make is your talking to your imaginary friend instead.

          Clearly you could gain by working on your English language skills if you’re posting on an english language forum and getting it wrong

          Lol, the amount of grammatical & spelling mistakes you’re making and you’re attacking my English. That American education system is doing you plenty of favours.

          mate?

          No.

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            In addition to your comments he might wanna know that “Waltz” isn’t a person

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                And The Band Played Waltzing Mathilda comes to mind for me…. The Aussies already learned the lesson Americans are going to have to learn very soon.

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            Aussie politics are in amazing shape atm, the right lost harder than it ever has in our entire history, but nice try.

            The Australian government is supporting genocide.

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      Walz and democrats aren’t leftists, they’re conservatives. Stop being an idealist, we have/had the option of conservatism or extremist conservatism. If you’re calling Walz “the left” then you’re doing the work of extremist propagandists for them, you fucking idiot. Have some god damned situational understanding and realize that the lesser of two evils is all we get in this country if we’re lucky, maybe take a minute and absorb the authoritarian genocidal regime that is in power instead of complaining about the lite version not being perfect leftists, you fucking twit. Use some rationalism.

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    people were telling me in December, ‘You know, you’re overreacting.’

    One day after saying this, the former speaker of the Minnesota house is gunned down by a pro-Trump extremist.

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          It’s not redundant until the mainstream media frames the narrative based on reality instead of propaganda.

          Words have meaning, and we should do our best to use the most accurate, truthful words to reframe the narrative and ensure clarity; even when others do not.

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              How would you react if you saw a similar exchange between MAGAs?

              MAGA A: <some sweeping negative generalization>.
              MAGA B: You don’t really mean that, right? It’s not all of them.
              MAGA A: I’m just joking. Relax.

              Would you take that response at face value or would you assume that the joke is a thinly veiled statement of their actual beliefs?

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                I should clarify a little. I do think MAGAs are terrorists, all of them. I was being cheeky about the part about the redundant statement being redundant. My last comment was in response to the person saying it’s not redundant until mainstream media calls it, which is technically true.

                Let’s not forget when they called themselves terrorists. If someone wanted me to support my belief, I would reference that. If I were to ask a MAGA the same thing for their negative generalization, I’d imagine I wouldn’t get a response built in truth, like when they say all Dems are pedophiles, or something like that

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          It’s technically redundant, but it’s also meaningful, intentional, and warranted. Especially when at least half of our legacy media establishment is committed to grossly misrepresenting the entire fascistic political movement, and the other half seems to be going whole hog on false equivalence and theatrical shock at entirely predictable authoritarian developments.

          It’s a lot like how we need to refer to the rapist Brock Turner (who is a rapist), for the simple reason that it needs to be aggressively forced into public perception. A lot like how the rapist Brock Turner aggressively forced himself on his rape victim, except the outcome here is increased public knowledge instead of Brock Turner (the rapist) getting his jollies.

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            I agree. I also think a bit of humor can help spread a message. I think the statement is kinda funny and I do think they are terrorists, and so do they.

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        Yeah, the cowardly Minnesota leadership cancelled the No Kings protests, and their constituents said “Fuck That,” and showed up anyway. 80,000 angry Minnesota Americans chose to publicly protest, knowing that a vicious murderer who was targeting them was on the loose, while their elected representatives chose to cower behind closed doors.

        It’s long past time for Democratic politicians to match the energy, anger, militancy, and COURAGE of their voters. We elected them to represent and fight for US against the MAGA Nazis, and now we expect them to DO THEIR JOBS!

        If they won’t, we’ll elect people who will.

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        I guess you missed the memo lol.

        He had to say that because the assassin is still at large. He knew it wouldn’t stop the protests, not if the protests really mattered to the people.

        And boy, from what my friends up there showed me, they showed up.