• Ilixtze@lemm.ee
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    9 days ago

    I am not American, but I believe in the Biden side someone forgot to add “Genocide enabler”; And yeah I guess it goes on trump’s side too. But I wonder if that affected the campaign trail.

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      9 days ago

      There’s a difference between enabler and maximizer.

      The dilemma is if most people understand trump would be a maximizer and don’t want it, Biden might be less an enabler.

      Ultimately, American people as a whole are the real genocide enabler.

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        9 days ago

        There’s a difference between enabler and maximizer.

        Yea, everyone knows. And it’s a painful choice to make regardless of your decision. I resent the conditions that doom us to choose between a cop and a gangster.

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        9 days ago

        Trump was never going to stop any war, but I think the question is about the people who didn’t vote. Maybe people don’t see viable alternatives? Maybe people are hopeless over there? Why do I keep seeing more and more American immigrants in my country? Maybe people are running from something?

        Again, I am a foreigner; But the way I see it; The American government seems very invested on the Genocide of the people of Gaza. On the other hand; The polls I keep seeing on the matter say that American citizens would rather have all that money spent on better healthcare than Giving Israel weapons to kill unarmed civilians.

        Now this is just a thought, but maybe, just maybeeee, condemning the indiscriminate killing of those people and running on better healthcare might have improved their chances of winning.

        Also maybe that contradiction of morality was a boon to the Republican party to exploit during the election. Like feeding on the hopelessness of a voter base that doesn’t support all the decisions of what is supposed to be their party.

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          9 days ago

          Poll is misleading. No one will say they don’t want better health care, but when voting, most choose the man can keep the pax-America illusion on a bit longer.

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      9 days ago

      There has not, and will likely never be, a US president who is not sympathetic to Israel. It’s just variations of support. Kamala would not have been any different than Biden.

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        There has not, and will likely never be, a US president who is not sympathetic to Israel. It’s just variations of support.

        I mean, Ike crashed Israel’s multinational invasion party, and was generally cold towards Israel.

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        9 days ago

        That is true; And it was major weakness for their campaign; A weakness that I believe they underestimated. I am not talking about just the republicans. Any foreign actor could use that weakness to instill doubt and despair on voters that don’t support genocide. I remember a few years back trump was playing this whole ridiculous “Maga communism” angle. As a foreigner, I see on one side a party that is willing to lie cheat and say anything to win And on the other side a party that finds it difficult to capitulate to their voters. The fact that the first one won by such a small margin tells us that the Democrats still have an overwhelming support.

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            Sure, agreed. My point was that enthusiam for Harris peaked when she chose Tim Walz over Josh Shapiro as VP, signaling a more progressive path. It came crashing down shortly after when she said she would do nothing different from Biden. People are sick of status quo politics.