• IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works
    1521·
    5 days ago

    The mistake that everyone keeps making is assuming that when they say “traditional family” they mean the “husband, wife, and 2.5 kids” nuclear family. That’s not what they want. They are looking at an older tradition. They want slaves and concubines back.

    • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.zipEnglish
      40·
      5 days ago

      They want slaves and concubines back.

      IE an actual traditional family, as very well defined in the Old Testament / Tanakh.

      When you get to the New Testament, you end up with the uberconservative push for making divorce illegal citing Jesus himself.

      Matthew 19:3-9

      3 And Pharisees came up to him and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful to divorce one 's wife for any cause?”

      4 He answered, "Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female,

      5 and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?

      6 So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate."

      7 They said to him, “Why then did Moses command one to give a certificate of divorce and to send her away?”

      8 He said to them, “Because of your hardness of heart Moses allowed you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so.

      9 And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”

      Notice how the presumption here is that only a man can divorce his wife, not the other way around.

      The rule of Moses as understood by the Pharisee is that a man can serve a woman divorce papers, and that’s that.

      What they can all agree on is women are second class citizens and should be subordinate to men.

      Paul is quite famous for not permitting women to speak:

      1 Corinthians 14:34

      the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says.

      • MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        12·
        4 days ago

        9 And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.

        After my mom divorced my dad, we moved in with her parents because we had no money. The condition was that we had to start going to their extreme, King James Bible is the literal word of god, church. They preached this lesson a lot and it really messed my mom up. Luckily around the time I was 12, and already an atheist, we stopped going.

        • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.zipEnglish
          7·
          4 days ago

          I come from a similar religious background, though my parents very obviously hate each other, never divorced, both constantly trying to get a middle school aged me to take their sides in arguments, traingulating everything, always, all the time, later escalating to trying to force various mental health condition diagnoses on each other and myself via quack doctors and institutions with dubious at best qualifications and track records.

          I stopped talking to my family years ago, but if my ability to search through public records is accurate, it looka like my brother, his schizophrenic former FLDS cult member girlfriend and my mom rent and live in a two bed house in a suburb, and my dad lives in a trailerhome 60 miles away out in the sticks.

          • MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            3·
            4 days ago

            I’m sorry, I hope the PTSD hasn’t screwed you up too bad. It’s definitely one of the reasons for my mental health issues. I went to a Church of Christ. This is the only name allowed for a church in this sect, because Jesus said build the church in my name in the king James version. So anyone who calls a church anything else is obviously going to hell.

            They take the book that’s been translated again and again and again, with books added and removed, and say it is the literal word of god because all the translators received divine inspiration. It would be a silly joke if they hadn’t hurt so many people. Almost all my family is dead now. What sect were you in?

    • danc4498@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      4 days ago

      The mistake that everyone makes is thinking that what they say, and where they go on Sunday has anything to do with how they feel and how they vote. They vote in a self serving and short sighted way. Their religion is irrelevant to who they actually are.

  • kersploosh@sh.itjust.works
    97·
    5 days ago

    The other guy in the oval office cheated on all three of his wives, and paid off at least one of his mistresses in an attempt to keep her quiet, so…

      • Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de
        13·
        4 days ago

        Wealth cannot be detangled from power, so yeah, this is dead on.

        We can have democracy or we can have billionaires, we cannot have both

      • Illecors@lemmy.cafeEnglish
        5·
        5 days ago

        But he doesn’t even wield absolute power. The bit he does hold seems to have been enough.

      • 00x0xx@lemmy.world
        52·
        4 days ago

        Incorrect. Those that are corrupt desires and seek absolute power & wealth more than an normal person. We have a few people in history who did had absolute power & wealth and uses it to great benefit for his people.

        • kautau@lemmy.world
          5·
          4 days ago

          Who in history had absolute wealth and or power and used it to great benefit for their people?

          • Cadenza@lemmy.world
            3·
            4 days ago

            I’d like to know too, I strongly suggest this is a delusion. Although the saying is a cliché, it’s a remarkably correct statement.

            • kautau@lemmy.world
              1·
              4 days ago

              Considering nearly every single one of their comments is about China and they said “his people” I think I have an idea that confirms that you’d be correct

  • WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world
    58·
    4 days ago

    Don’t forget muskrat’s own dad had 2 kids with his own stepdaughter.

    That’s some fucked up Woody Allen level of ick.

  • throwback3090@lemmy.nzEnglish
    29·
    4 days ago

    Small edit: since elon is an immigrant-hating immigrant, you should probably refer to the kids as “anchor babies”

    • Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de
      33·
      4 days ago

      I know why they did it, because it was the only way to ensure that the tsar dynasty wasn’t reinstalled… But killing innocent kids will never sit right with me.

      • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
        8·
        4 days ago

        Its not like with Trump where his kids are actually problems themselves. I suspect that some of the younger ones will probably want to disown him too, especially the ones that he’s called stupid names.

      • Strider@lemmy.world
        2·
        4 days ago

        If you have a look at musks family it seems as if the issue is not a single person.

        But of course morally I agree. Might be a trap, though.

      • gamer@lemm.ee
        2·
        4 days ago

        I actually love the name “techno mechanicus”. The others are just weird, but I find that one laugh out loud hilarious.

        • Fizz@lemmy.nz
          1·
          4 days ago

          Omg how did I not notice that one. It was so out there that my brain didn’t even register it.

    • Snowclone@lemmy.world
      61·
      4 days ago

      There’s a theory that they are all fake names and not their legal names, although his trans daughter I think legally changed their name so that may be on record, but most aren’t.

  • sasquash@sopuli.xyz
    44·
    5 days ago

    don’t tell me the names are real. I know about the X AE kid but the others, seriously? This is the dumbest possible timeline

      • Onionguy@lemm.ee
        2·
        4 days ago

        Leave Cletus out of this, he’s an honest good hearted intelligent guy compared to musk.

    • pyre@lemmy.world
      14·
      4 days ago

      that’s because grimes is also dumb as a rock. so is anyone who willingly marries an unfuckable troglodyte

      • Lemminary@lemmy.world
        3·
        4 days ago

        Idk about unfuckable given that he has 10 more kids than the average Westerner, but I’m 100% behind troglodyte.

        • pyre@lemmy.world
          2·
          4 days ago

          no one fucks him. he just shares his sperm and people want it because they’re eager to get a share of his money and/or they’re also white supremacists who believe they should populate the earth more with their inbred genes.

  • neidu3@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    43·
    5 days ago

    I chuckle every time I am reminded that he named one of his kids Sideræl. In norwegian that would be a slang for Side-junk or side-slop.

    Side = side
    Ræl = “junk,” “trash,” “rubbish,” or “worthless stuff.” It is an informal, somewhat dismissive term used to describe things that are of low quality, broken, or generally useless.

    • kersploosh@sh.itjust.works
      26·
      5 days ago

      I think it was supposed to be Sidereal, which refers to astronomical measurements based on stars rather than the sun. But he couldn’t even spell it right.

      • neidu3@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        181·
        5 days ago

        Elon can consider himself proper American now that he thinks Æ can be used as substitute for A, E, or a combination of the two. Same as you sometimes see shitheads use Ø instead of O.

        To those of us who use those letters daily, it’s just jarring, as it’s a completely different letter with a different sound. It would be like writing Karspleesh and expect the spelling to carry the same pronunciation.

          • neidu3@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            5·
            5 days ago

            True, that’s an internationally recognized translation of those letters. Partially to make it easier for the swedes who use gibberish letters instead of the superior Æ Ø Å, I’m sure you can agree.
            But the opposite isn’t valid in any language. You don’t know anyone who drive across Størebæltsbrøen to get to Ødense, I hope?

              • Scrollone@feddit.it
                2·
                4 days ago

                If you say “Ødense” is written in a gibberish way, wait until you find out what’s the pronunciation of that city.

        • thefartographer@lemm.ee
          6·
          5 days ago

          Now I’m confused and confused how to pronounce Karspleesh. In my head, I’m pronouncing it Car spleen sh

    • werefreeatlast@lemmy.world
      51·
      5 days ago

      I would let musket do me a few times a month for a few million. Why not? I’ve one know of one guy who’s ever been pregnant. Maybe two? Not with my plumbing. And the fucker can divorce me the next year. My wife approves if she gets to travel. All contingent on not getting murdered during the incoming concentration camp phase.

  • taiyang@lemmy.world
    351·
    5 days ago

    It’s weird how one can be such an incel yet also a philanderer, but then again, the fact that some are employees suggests a bit of a power dynamic abuse. If an incel rapes someone, they’re still an “involuntary celerate”

    • 790@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      16·
      5 days ago

      People use the word incel to the point of irrelevance. If you’re having sex you’re not involuntarily celibate.

      Folks online were calling Henry Cavill an incel a while back. If these guys were celibate it would be by choice. If you’re trying to criticize them in other ways, why not use the right words?

    • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
      41·
      5 days ago

      You could be the most vile, gross, Jabba the hut looking incel out there, but if you’re a billionaire you can have a harem of gorgeous women who will let you Fuck and imepregnate them just because they know they’ll have money and be taken care of for life. I doubt any woman actually is attracted to him, they just want to be set up for life

  • Sergio@slrpnk.netEnglish
    211·
    5 days ago

    I don’t know much about billionaires, so I just kind of assumed that they had kids with, like, royalty or business family heiresses or A-list actresses. Not with their employees and/or whoever is left at the cocktail party after the A-listers have gone.

    • BetaBlake@lemmy.world
      21·
      5 days ago

      Funny thing is I think a lot of these babies were by surrogacy and in vitro fertilization, I don’t think there was actually a lot of sex going on with any of these women.

      That’s what I read, I could be wrong

      • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world
        13·
        5 days ago

        It’s probably why he has lots of kids to compensate for something. Probably to signal that he has sex when he really hasn’t. Ketamine abuse can cause erectile dysfunction and I bet his sperm is immotile

        • Hadriscus@lemm.ee
          10·
          5 days ago

          I would bet my eyes that he firmly believes in the superiority of his sperm. Eugenics is on par for nazis

          • Zink@programming.dev
            4·
            4 days ago

            Not just him but undoubtedly millions of fellow Americans.

            When one is dead and broken inside, they look to external quantitative factors for validation. They convince themselves that the more measurable & “objective” those factors are, the more they must be representing some underlying truth. They represent the meaning of life.

            And the shitty thing is that those who only care about money and power see the worst of humanity getting rewarded with more money and more power.

            Their fucked up personal lives aren’t evidence of something wrong with them. They are evidence that such silly feel-good nonsense is unnecessary at best, and a terrible weakness at worst. You know, the kind of shit you’d expect from a cartoon villain in a children’s movie.

            Edit to add an anecdote: I’m sure people from conservative families will feel this one. Say in front of one of the broken people that Musk is an idiot and a bad father, and the reply will be something like “well he’s made a million times as much money as you, so that shows how smart you are!” Or maybe “his kids are set for life - have you done something like that for your kids?”

          • Scrollone@feddit.it
            1·
            4 days ago

            That reminds me of Telegram founder Pavel Durov who donated his sperm to hundreds of women, and now he wants all of his children to have a big meeting. Rich people are fucked up (and this wants me to leave Telegram).