ICE detains 2 men in Charlottesville courthouse raid
dailyprogress.com
Three men who identified themselves as Homeland Security officers raided a courthouse in downtown Charlottesville Tuesday, detaining two men without explanation.
  • Furbag@lemmy.world
    10·
    6 hours ago

    I’m still baffled as to how they continue to do this unimpeded.

    These people are in court trying to enter the country “the right way” by going through the legal system and are getting ambushed by ICE and Homeland Security during their hearings. Unless the desired outcome is to depress the population of “good ones” trying to stay in the country via legal means by scaring them with the threat of sudden deportation, I don’t see what this accomplishes. This war on immigration is equally as stupid and futile as the war on drugs.

    Xenophobia has completely fried the brains of most Americans. This shit isn’t normal and never should be.

  • electric_nan@lemmy.ml
    10·
    7 hours ago

    They will be coming to your courthouses too. We will have to be organizing citizen barricades to keep them from disappearing our neighbors.

  • Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world
    271·
    9 hours ago

    First, this is straight up Nazi secret police stuff. Second how did the court know these guys weren’t confederates of the folks in court intending a jail break. Where the FUCK were the bailiffs in this unlawful seizure?

  • Kalysta@lemm.ee
    26·
    9 hours ago

    So three men just kidnapped a dude.

    They need to be banned from doing this in plain clothes. At minumim. At best ICE needs to be abolished.

    • Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world
      11·
      9 hours ago

      They need to be arrested as attempted kidnappers or shot if they don’t surrender. Then they need to be prosecuted as kidnappers.

      • Bogus007@lemm.ee
        8·
        8 hours ago

        Just figure out their names and living places. Once the shit is over, hunt them. All of them. And do whatever you like with them.

  • bunsley@lemmy.mlEnglish
    32·
    11 hours ago

    The knock-on effect of this now would discourage undocumented migrants even just trying to engage with the legal system, being a witness or even reporting on crimes. For people on the fringes of a society it could lead to even worse exploitation and marginalization

    • Phoenicianpirate@lemm.eeEnglish
      7·
      6 hours ago

      While we aren’t seeing it now, it will be a matter of time before those marginalized people start packing and start shooting. Especially when they realize it is a fate worse than death or even just death if they comply.

    • electric_nan@lemmy.ml
      12·
      7 hours ago

      I live here, and I actually called the Sheriff and yelled at her about this. She said these ICE Nazis showed her deputies ID and warrants, and that she couldn’t stop them from entering. She has met with the judges who actually have the power to determine who is allowed entry, asking if they want her office to stop feds in the future. They were still considering it as of yesterday.

  • barneypiccolo@lemm.eeEnglish
    781·
    17 hours ago

    What alarmed Nicholas Reppucci, head of the Charlottesville Office of the Public Defender, is that the enforcers called in to detain the two men in the city Tuesday morning were wearing plain clothes and did not display badges or arrest warrants.

    Presumably, the courthouse is filled with cops and others with arrest authority, so why did they allow two men in plainclothes without badges or warrants leave with two people?

    If the DOGE pirates had been gunned down in the first lobby the invaded, it would have ended there, or at least gone down a different path.

    We should not be normalizing this behavior, and setting precedents. Without a badge, you will not be listened to, and you will leave the building immediately. Without a warrant, you will not be putting your hands on any person. If you attempt to bypass either requirement, you will be arrested. And if you attempt to do enforce your demands by force, you will be shot.

    • Phoenicianpirate@lemm.eeEnglish
      8·
      10 hours ago

      I wish they did have the guts to shoot the DOGE team. Especially since the DOGE goons have literally dragged people out and probably physically assaulted others.

    • flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      34·
      17 hours ago

      On the plus side, if anybody reading this ever has reason to think that they might need to go into a police station and remove someone being held there, apparently if you and a friend or two look sufficiently the part, you can just walk in, in plainclothes, and claim to be Homeland Security, and just… take a dude and leave.

      • supernight52@lemmy.world
        261·
        12 hours ago

        When they are disappearing people with no due process, the only logical response is violence. Gtfo of here with that dumb shit.

        • Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world
          3·
          9 hours ago

          I think I’m going to have to seriously think about packing heat on regular basis for the exact scenario the 2nd amendment was written to cover.

          • supernight52@lemmy.world
            3·
            8 hours ago

            Not a bad idea, at this point. Just keep it at home, and only have it to defend yourself or others. It is always morally correct to stop a Gestapo agent through any means necessary.

          • bitjunkie@lemmy.world
            8·
            10 hours ago

            I’ve been seeing “Americans are pussies for not rising up” and “you won’t vote yourselves out of this situation” on here for months… Which is it? Make up your fucking mind, internet.

            • supernight52@lemmy.world
              73·
              10 hours ago

              It’s just the normal anti-American sentiment from fringe idiots around the globe. Anything that has to do with America or the people from there are bad, evil, and needs to be shunned and mocked. Don’t give this guy any weight as a popular opinion from the internet.

              • supernight52@lemmy.world
                9·
                10 hours ago

                It has nothing to do with “chosen” and everything to do with common sense. Wtf would YOU do if a couple of dudes came up to you neighbor, grabbed them and walked off with no explanation or identification? Just shrug, and go about your day? Because that’s what you’re insinuating with this idiotic line of reasoning you’re going down.

      • theblips@lemm.ee
        14·
        11 hours ago

        I mean, isn’t this the exact scenario they wrote in the Second Amendment for? Can’t say this reaction is surprising given it’s at the roots of the country and extensively defended by the Founding Fathers

  • Cocodapuf@lemmy.world
    41·
    5 hours ago

    It’s horrifying to see so many incidents of kidnapping in courtrooms. I can’t imagine a more blatant and clear example of subversion of the legal judicial process.

    There would be no reason to remove them from a courtroom if you believed the court would come to the same conclusions they have. So the logical explanation is that they know that what they’re doing is illegal and that these people they’re snatching haven’t actually done anything wrong. It’s shameful that we’ve allowed this to happen in our country and frankly, it’s embarrassing that this is what the once great USA has stooped to.

    • gaja@lemm.ee
      5·
      11 hours ago

      The authorities are assholes. They go for schools and churches and hospitals and courtrooms. They won’t bother with rape cases unless they’re an easy slam dunk. They hold grudges and weaponize their power over people they don’t like. They won’t target gang members when uneducated immigrants are so much easier.

  • BenLeMan@lemmy.world
    63·
    1 day ago

    Whatever happened to the Fourth Amendment? If they’re not even bothering to uphold the Constitution in a courthouse you guys are well and truly fucked.