Summary
Ukrainian officials were advised not to sign a U.S. proposal on accessing rare earth minerals, as it prioritized U.S. interests and lacked security guarantees for Ukraine, according to President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
The document, presented by U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bassent during a Kyiv visit, was intended as compensation for U.S. aid.
Speaking at the Munich Security Conference, Zelenskyy stressed any agreement must ensure both financial benefits and security for Ukraine amid ongoing Russian aggression, and Ukraine is preparing a counter proposal.
Trump and the rest of the Putin-bootlickers can go fuck themselves.
May Europe do what the US is apparently no longer willing to, and provide Ukraine the necessary support to defend itself.
And the people complaining that people who want to support Ukraine against an outside invasion are warmongers can go fuck themselves with a cactus.
so edgy
LOL They already lost with all the ‘help’. Remember their great offensive where they got 1 potato field? It’s over. But sure, let’s kidnapp some teens and elderly to die for nothing
Yes, it’s vital for Europe to unite against aggression from russia. That, including invasion of Ukraine, is expanding with attacks on communication cables at sea.
Maybe, symmetrically, Europe should support China’s ambition on Taiwan, so to make people at the “white” House understand common sense.“Supporting Russia’s ally to get back at Russia” doesn’t make a lot of sense.
Right, of course. But if it is only in the discourse … to make pressure … still doesn’t make sense ?
No, it doesn’t make any sense. Chinas claim to Taiwan is as illegitamate as Russia’s claim is to Ukraine.
Yes, of course both are illegitamate … and there’s no way Trump’s negotiators believe their stance on Ukraine is legitimate either. My point is to make those negotiators admit their position is invalid by symmetry.
You had me with the first sentence. Then you walloped me with that second big line of stupid.
It’s not difficult to support an enemy of the USA these days thankfully, just lend your support to Canada.
They deserve it, and we need to stand with them against US Imperialist aggression.
You know two wrongs don’t make a plus
So, let me know if I understand what the US is proposing. In exchange for getting Russia to agree to only annex a large chunk of the country (for now), Ukraine must cede a huge percentage of its natural resources to the US as payment. Is that about it?
Yes. Once the
USTrump has a signed agreement for the minerals he signs a treaty for Ukraine giving Russia whatever it wants but let’s theUSTrump keep the mineral rights.𝘗𝘦𝘢𝘤𝘦™
Even if the USA promised total war against Russia until Ukraine is completely free plus 50 years of protection, who would believe a single letter in an agreement with Murica today??
They had to run in the middle of the night from their last base in Afghanistan. They are a joke
Contracts like those always have extensive breach clauses for ass coverage for both sides.
And who is going to enforce a breach?
trump himself re-negotiated nafta and is now renegging on his own deal placing tariffs on Canada and Mexico
If Trump and Musk had just waited until some of these deals were inked before trying to plunder the US Treasury, they’d be in a much better position. If they’re willing to treat their own people like an ATM, how are any of our allies supposed to take them at their word, or trust that the US is negotiating in good faith? And the notion that foreign aid should be paid for like a utility bill is, I think, a pretty foreign notion to most.
It’s wild to me that the super-wealthy are still so insatiably greedy that they’re tripping over their own feet here.
That’s because you’re thinking of them as people like us instead of sociopaths.
Extreme wealth is a disease.
most of us if we had 10 million dollars would just stop working and go out adventuring across the world. billionaires, however, are set onto some sort of arcade game where the number next to their name when they die is the entire point. it’s not fun for them. but they have to see the number go up because it’s the only source of dopamine in their life
A recent study shows a link between workaholics and erosion of moral values.
Trump sounds so weak ngl.
Give Ukraine back some nukes under their own control.
they never had nukes, they were soviet nukes
In between the end of the Soviet Union and them signing the Budapest Memorandum and giving the nukes from the ex-Soviet Union that were in their territory to Russia, there was definitelly a period during which the sovereign nation of Ukraine had nukes under their control.
OK, but regardless of who supplies them, if Ukraine had a few under their own control, for better or worse it would give them a deterrent they never should have been swindled into letting go of. Sucks, but it seems any nation that doesn’t have nukes is at an extreme disadvantage in defending its sovereignty.
In fact, I think it would be worth it to put a few nukes in every NATO nation bordering Russia or its smaller, unprotected ex-satellites. Putin will grandstand about it but is he really going to start WWIII on it? If he was willing to do so, he already would have when other nations began sending conventional military aid to Ukraine. His bluff needs to be called and he needs to be forced to back down.
Your (luckily hypothetical) suggestion is wrong and extremely dangerous in many ways.
WW3 nuclear dangerous.
To name just one reason, Russia did not tolerate Ukraine in NATO since that would mean nukes too close to Moscow and a well known red line.
That will never fly.
All this was stated by them and western expert fully understood and knew this would lead to war.
I’ll leave it at that.
Standard imperial contract.
Sounds like the “Fart of the Deal”
I’ve known people like this, who just take whatever they want as if they’re entitled to it, but never a country. Weird, gives me the same feeling as if it was a person doing it… like, get the hell outta here and go earn your own stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npDqU47qZ7s
And zelenski just stood there with a silly grin on his face.
The minerals are for all the money and weapon US had already gave Ukraine. The security guarantees costs extra.
So go fuck out of all of security bases in Europe. Let’s see how much longer you will survive and thrive without allies and generally hated by everyone.
You think the rest of the world should simply succumb to your scummy practices?
