Summary

Elon Musk privately pressured Reddit CEO Steve Huffman to address content moderation after publicly criticizing Reddit on X for banning links and allegedly hosting violent content.

Shortly after Musk’s messages, Reddit imposed a 72-hour ban on the “WhitePeopleTwitter” subreddit, citing violent content, and deleted a thread Musk highlighted.

Reddit denies external influence but acknowledges evaluating reports seriously.

The controversy stirred discussions among Reddit moderators, some mocking Musk as a “giant baby.” Musk has not commented on the situation.

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    Wasn’t Elon Musk the self-proclaimed “free speech absolutist”? Turns out it was the “free speech abolitionist” after all.

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      The extreme right wing in the US, has always had things they claim to revere, but don’t actually believe in.

      • Free Speech
      • Free Markets
      • Democracy
      • The Constitution

      Probably more

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        • families
        • children’s safety
        • voting rights
        • the economy
        • the well-being of working class people
        • peace
        • morality
        • women’s safety
        • corruption
        • technology
        • infrastructure
        • religion, in that it is only a tool to further their ends and they will interpret religious scripture at their own discretion and opinion
        • education
        • healthcare

        There’s only two things they do care about, capital and power. They are white supremacists and Christian nationalists second, capitalists and oligarchs first.

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        It’s about power. They can lie and get away with it, they can break rules and get away with it.

        Everything they do should be viewed through the lens of power relations and control through power. They will say whatever is worthwhile for them to say to gain more power. That’s it, that’s all, that’s all it’s ever been. Calling them hypocrites does nothing, they love that we get mad about it. Because it means they have power over us.

        To quote a rando from (retch) reddit:

        There’s a russian adage about people dumbfounded by how people will baldfaced lie obvious falsehoods: They don’t lie to deceive you, they lie to INSULT you: it’s a statement “I can insult you this way and you can’t do anything about it”

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        They call themselves conservatives, but they’re radicals (the polar opposite) through and through.

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      It means Elon gets free speech, not any of us. Elon is free to threaten a Judges daughter with no ramifications.

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        its the same people whoa re anti-woke, they are the wokest people out there.

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      Apparently free speech absolutist means “absolutely no free speech” according to fElon.

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      It still blows my mind that he has this reputation. His OWN damn policy was and still is “Freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach.” Which is blatantly censorship and suppression lol. I cannot grasp how someone could see that and be like “free speech is back!!!”

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      Welcome! I came over during the api shutdown, I mained lemmy for a year, waffled back and forth the last few months. Reddit is such garbage, I dont even recognize it anymore. Its just those few niche subs that got me back but its not worth it.

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          Sadly there is still no good replacement for /r/steroids and /r/drugs over here. Maybe I need to take things into my own hands, but I’m not really interested in building up these communities from the ground up.

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      There is still a few niche subreddits I “need” to visit Reddit for, but I at least try to stay away from /r/all and browse Lemmy instead

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        Much better to be kinda effective and it works for you than try to be perfect and fail :)

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    Imagine being literally the richest man on earth and using your influence to delete mean comments that people wrote about you on the internet.

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        Fine for me. Don’t need a lot of troll bots and junk opinions from the uninformed. 🤷‍♂️

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        You gotta Field of Dreams it; post in communities you want to see liven up and people will follow, it just takes time.

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          I was trying to describe the plot of Field of Dreams just the other day.

          A guy builds a baseball field in his corn field so that ghost players will come and play games there.

          Their response was: The 90 were weird. And I had to agree. I’m gonna have to watch the movie again to figure out why I liked it so much.

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        My own experience has been the opposite, I’ve gotten more engagement in my short time here than in the last year or two on reddit. Plus no one here is trying to ban my account every time I point out trump/ musk is a big ol poopy pants.

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          its not so much as the reporting, but the good-two-shoes comment and trolls. trying to bait you into a argument with "both sides, and whataboutism, or bringing up only left-bashing comments.

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        Reddit didn’t become a giant in one day either. The more people you tell about lemmy the more people will use it.

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          yea it dint, not until trumps 1st term, then reddit just ballooned out of control since then, reporting became more sensitive(it got easier to get banned because of the politics made people to sensitive, and they can easily miconstrue your comments. for the longest time i was on niche subs, then politics became so prominent around '16-20.

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        Really? It was less active than Reddit about a year ago, but now it’s not that different in terms of how often the front page changes. Browse by all and just block whichever instances and communities you don’t want to see. I’d much rather have fewer comments than most of them being bots and children spamming dumb shit.

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          its mostly trump propaganda now on the front page, about 95%. worst now is subs like r/conservative has been on the front page months. negative trump news, ie his gaffes are propaganda the same thing MSM pushed last year. at least on r/all you can block any sub you dont wish to see.

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          Yeah, right? The only thing I miss here are highly specific communities. But then again I might create them myself at some point

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        I’ve been here since Apigate. It’s getting more active, but not the same. However, I’ve found myself actually scrolling less due to the less content, which has been a good thing for my mental health.

        And the obligatory F Spez, F Elon.

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        There’s less posts sure, but when I left last year so much of Reddits front page content was just badly reposted bot garbage anyway.

        There were some specific communities where there we enough active real people posted to keep it interesting, but I could tell then where it was going, and as far as I can tell I wasn’t wrong.

        Artificially created content to force or fake engagement to drive ad sales isn’t any less dead than here.

        Also the fact that you’re giving your content up for free so spez can lock it behind paywalls is just insane.

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        Flying Squid has disappeared the past month. Very active user. I am worried.

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        Sort by new! There’s a flood of fresh posts all the time and if you upvote/comment the ones you like they end up at the top of other people’s active feed with your comment already there!!

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          I always sort by “New” and browse “All.” Just to upvote and give traction to the smaller communities. Especially give my appreciation to any original content.

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        If there’s too little content, that likely means that you spend more than a couple of hours on reddit. Yep, there’s not enough content to fill your day here. But also, maybe there shouldn’t be. If you go on here like max 1hr each day, you won’t notice a difference. Anything more, yeah, you’re “missing” content. But why spend more than 1hr daily here?..

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      I moved to Lemmy since the API fiasco, almost 2 years ago, I never posted/voted on reddit since. Sometimes I check some sub for their contents but never ever participate.

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        I tried then and it just didn’t stick for me for some reason so I crawled back to the ex with my head hung in shame. Attempt #2 is sticking though.

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            I think thats why its sticking this time, the user base is a bit larger and it’s a bit more fleshed out. It’s much easier to stick around when there is something to stick around for.

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        i moved last month due to massive purge of accounts. let the trolls have the politics and news subs.

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        I still go there sometimes… I only upvote porn, dark humor and shitty spelling.

        That way, the ad companies are less interested and the AI training data becomes garbage.

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      after feb 12-13, when they started to aggressively banning people, right after musk complained about r/whitepeople twitter.

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    Yep got a temp 3 day ban on reddit just saying that let’s hope the masked police don’t mess up with someone who has conceal carry license… that is all I said, then boom temp ban.

    Reddit is compromised.

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    Last time I signed up for Reddit it asked me to pick some of my top interests. One of the options was Elon Musk.

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      Not at all surprizing. Spez thinks he’s an upcoming Elon-like genius and wants to surround himself with like-minded techbros, but he’s actually a massive Musk bootlicker.

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        Not at all surprizing. Spez thinks he’s an upcoming Elon-like genius and wants to surround himself with like-minded techbros, but he’s actually a massive Musk bootlicker fucking knobhead.

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    Reddit is a publicaly traded company, and fElon has more money that countries. So, he could literally just buy Reddit and turn it into a propaganda machine. Glad I left. There are some UI stuff that I will miss (like having sub-reddits as a fast-access at the top of the page, or that replies to a posting on Reddit would be indented, or /r/place), but I’ll survive here.

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      I have a bit of a pet peeve when people use petty terms like fElon or Elmo. It just seems a bit childish and communicates that you’re only interested ad hominem.

      But that was before I heard the moniker “Phony Stark”. I think we should always use this to refer to Elon because I think it’s hilarious.

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        I share the same pet peeve, but I have to admit a few clever ones deserve to survive and you bring a good contender

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          Ya, it doesn’t annoy me as much as I let on in order to set up the joke and I love hearing new ones.

          The only thing that annoys me a bit is using them as a nickname instead of a punchline.

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            It usually pisses me off immediately, it feels like I’m discussing with 12 years olds, but it’s mostly when they use them as nicknames, as you said.
            And constantly.
            Jokes and occasional puns, that’s fine, I still find most are not funny to begin with but that’s personal taste.

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        phony stark mostly came from one of his old profiles when he was wearing the iron man armour to make him appear like he was a “genius” like tony stark. others like space karen, and temu stark.

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        . like fElon. It has nice wordplay. Could be Fuck Elon or Felon Elon. Although, I believe it’s both.

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        When he stops targeting an entire group of people with the ad hominem that they’re all child predators, I’ll stop calling him Elmo.

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      What I hate about Lemmy is the lack of content in semi-specific communities.

      What I love about Lemmy is that there’s so much less content overall. I run out of content and I log off. Reddit was a bottomless pit.

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          I think even 10 years ago Reddit was a lot bigger. The niche subs still had some traction. Like, Morrowind there 10 years ago had more stuff than the Elder Scrolls community here does. (I could be misremembering, but that feels right.)

          BUT you’re right that it wasn’t endless filler back then. There was an end, and then you were done.

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            there were alot more subs too, mainly the ones they started banning in '16-17, the illegal subs, around the same time trump came to power, and the gop was complaining about REDDIT subs, i think it was because these subs were hurting gop image.

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      I wonder if he’d lift all the bans, like he did with Xitter, considering he is responsible for a decent chunk of them.

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        He’d probably lift them for the “correct” people (read as those who agree with him).

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    One thing Musk knows how to do well is run and moderate a social media platform.

    Oh wait. Stop. Reverse that.

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      Unfortunately for the rest of us he’s running it perfectly well. Problem is it’s not a social media platform, it’s a nazi social media platform.

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    That makes sense. Spez is such a spineless dweeb, it checks out that a narcissistic blowhard like Musk would be pushing him around.

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    People are prefacing their comments on reddit with “I’m not advocating violence” just to avoid getting banned. The climate there has shifted dramatically recently.

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        It’s like posting in a food subreddit with, “Hi, I’m not advocating political violence, but I really enjoy a nice chicken cordon bleu with asparagus.”

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      when musk complained about whitepeopletwitter for advocating violence, while himself and X is advocating the same thing in a much more aggressive way is when reddit started banning people critical of trump and musk, first they have to look like they are being “fair and both sides” by allowing astroturfing from right wingers and trolls then when comments get baited into arguments they report those comments.