drthunder

Open source software isn’t the same as generative AI at all, but I wouldn’t be surprised if people who put stuff on GitHub pre-ChatGPT don’t want their code scraped for Microsoft to profit off of. I took my personal projects off of GitHub a year or two ago for that reason. Aside from that, open source code is put out there with the intention of being used freely and a lot of art isn’t. Art floating around the internet pre-2022 was made either with the intention of not getting paid for it, in which case whatever, or the artist wanted to get paid and was presumably paid but their art ended up on the internet anyway (but they still got paid at least).

My main issues with generative AI models are that most if not all of them were created without the artists’ or developers’ permission, the profits are going entirely to oligarchs, and training the models takes an obscene amount of energy that contributes to global warming. These models devalue actual art even further and have made the internet a worse place by making it easier to make spam and disinformation. It’s too late to fix spam and disinformation, but we can still value art. I think indie game devs would be singing a different tune if Steam was flooded with games made entirely with AI slop.

edit: For what it’s worth, I paid for my copy of Reaper and the drum plugin I use. I also paid for all my guitar gear.

I admit that it’s not the best comparison because games often take more time to make than music or visual art. But I think the results are similar if you take a game with programmer art (which does have its charms!) or no art vs one that hired an artist for some amount of time, compared to a soundtrack or set of art with a game the artist put together vs hiring a dev to put together a demo in the same amount of time.

What this really comes down to for me is that most if not all of these models were created without the artists’ permission and training the models takes an obscene amount of energy that contributes to global warming. These models devalue actual art even further and have made the internet a worse place by making it easier to make spam and disinformation. It’s too late to fix spam and disinformation, but we can still value art. I think game devs would be singing a different tune if Steam was flooded with games made entirely with AI slop.

Writing good music is really freakin’ hard, but I do it on my own anyway because the whole point of making something creative is that a person is doing it. It’s truly a shame to see people rally for software made by tech bros that takes work away from real artists who could use it.

editing to be less snarky: How would you feel if generative AI could make a game and an artist or musician had it make an entire game for their art/music because it saved them money?

Claiming that Israel and Netanyahu’s government speaks for all Jewish people is exactly what Zionists do, too. Jewish people have been co-leaders of every action for Palestine and against genocide that I’ve been part of.

problem?

(sorry, I had to)

I agree, there are tons of bad actors out there. I can’t believe how much time and money is invested into brainwashing children into thinking that men and women marrying is normal. I still don’t understand straight relationships, which one is the woman and which one is the other woman?

The US has enough money for both universal healthcare and our obscene military budget, we just choose to only have one.

More than that, the numbers I keep seeing thrown around are that Harris got 75m votes, Trump got 77m, and 90m didn’t bother voting.

It’s not the early internet, but a lot of websites in the 00s (when I started using it) let you customize your profile. We all had horrible CSS and an autoplay song that only we liked on our Myspace profiles and it was great. Flash was both a buggy mess that could introduce viruses to your computer and an amazing outlet for creativity that I don’t think has been replaced. It was a lot less centralized and you were only being tracked across the whole internet by the NSA and not every internet company too.

Edit: I should say that I lose a bit of nostalgia every time I see forum posts from that era though, the casual bigotry was everywhere and so obnoxious

Exactly. Voting has never been enough, but it’s also the absolute bare minimum. How am I supposed to trust people to have my back who couldn’t take an hour out of their day to check some boxes?

Harm reduction would have saved trans people like me from being erased by the government.

I have a laptop that I dual boot on, I’ll have to try a few games on it. The biggest thing for me is if MusicBee will work, because I’ve been using it for almost ten years and want to keep using it.

MS can pry Windows 10 out of my cold, dead hands. I’ll switch to Linux before Win11 and I don’t particularly want to do that either.