SD card. Half us old timers won’t even realize it’s not a floppy disk.
Yet 90% of young people won’t know what it is because digital cameras have been replaced by phones and phones no longer have microSD lol
Gotta give the next gen something to complain about.
In the dystopia of outer-worlds-esque orwellien-surveillance corporate feudalism it looks like they will have to endure, I think we can afford to lighten up on them 😂
Digital cameras are in style again. I’ve seen screenless ones for sale at several places these past few weeks.
I would also accept any other recognizable, removable media. Even a generic USB stick would be more relevant than a floppy disk.
I reject the question. That’s not a picture of a floppy disc, that is the glyph that means save
You literally called it the save symbol. And that’s what it is…100 years from now, if we’re still around and still have computers, the save icon will still be some stylized glyph based on the floppy disc
The existence of the floppy disc is already just a bit of trivia about the save icon
It’s like asking what we should change the Bluetooth symbol to? Why do you yearn for the world to burn?
An icon can be any random glyph, but it has to stay recognizable and consistent in meaning, that’s the entire concept here
By OP’s logic, this
#A
is a drawing of an ox head.
What till people find out what “dashboard” originally meant.
Hope you are right.
But really the Save icon will become: ✨
thats’s the Google AI icon
Why you want to save file if you can just feed if you ai and let it hallucinate if you want to read it
“All your base (data) are belong to us” -Google AI
… Why is the generative llm glyph here? nervous
I think we should just keep the floppy disk symbol at this point, because it doesn’t matter what it was originally based on or whether that exists any more–everyone knows what that symbol means, and it can’t really be confused with anything else.
There’s no point making an icon that looks like any other particular kind of storage device since those are changing all the time. So we either have to pick some real world thing like a safe or warehouse or grain silo or whatever. or invent some completely new symbol that’s not related to anything and then everyone would have to learn it. Which takes us back to just keeping the floppy disk symbol.
grain silo
This is a hilariously awkward suggestion. At the scale of the average save icon, what do you think a grain silo symbol would look like?
like this?
drawing a grain silo doesn’t mean you have to draw the grains.
Honestly probably the most universally recognizable save symbol in the end, certainly if I had to go back in time and establish contact with an ancient people and teach them Intuit Quickbooks or other tax accounting software to run a cutthroat tax accounting operation using timetravel to access low cost labor that would be the icon I would choose for saving.
A Jesus icon.
Jesus saves.
What about Valhala tho? Kinda seems like superior religious imagery to me.
i want software to be easy to use. I don’t want to die in battle using my software
Admit it, we all die in some small way every time we use a computer, why not seek glory in it?
What a save!
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Okay.
Wow!
This is the correct answer.
I’ve seen HDD icons as a replacement for the floppy.
HDD or a folder is open, floppy is save, surely?
In calibre, HDD icon is for “save to disk”, but I’m sure I’ve seen icon sets or other apps where HDD was used to save.
A cassette tape.
Hahahaha, dammit you win
⬇️ or
To me this means download
Thats for downloading though.
That’s for downloading though.
Right.
When you grab something from somewhere else and do “what” with that thing you “downloaded?”
Like what are you doing with that file? ***ing it to your hard drive of some kind… what do you call that?
To **** a file you downloaded?
“Downloading” is how you acquire any external data to your internal storage media.
Edit : Holy SHIT you guys seem to not like the logic I’m attempting to provide here or something.
I know generally folks here are very intelligent, but all of you do know the basics of how a computer works, right? When you start typing something out, it’s happening in your RAM, right? And then when you want to SAVE that work you’re doing, you DOWNLOAD that work from RAM to the re-writable disk media of some kind? Hard drive, SD card, whatever…
I personally LIKE the DISK ICON, but was just offering an answer to the request of “provide an alternative” and then backing it up with a logical explanation.
I’m not downloading when I save a file I edited locally on my computer.
But like, what if, you’re like … “downloading” the file … from memory … to disk? … man?
Arguably, you are downloading something temporary that you’re doing in the RAM into your system’s more permanently writable disk for longer-term storage, but I know what you’re saying.
To be clear, I personally like the disk icon, but the question presumes that you provide an alternative so that was what I did.
Really all I’m saying is - if you had to twist my arm and do away with the disk icon - considering the abstraction involved with what the action ultimately represents, the “download” icon (down arrow + underline) is a close enough approximation that users (both new and old) could mentally map the action well enough to understand the logic.
You take an online thing and make it local.
I understand how some younger folk might not see as stark a contrast in saving v downloading.
I’d say if you’re 30+, you prolly do.
“Downloading” is how you acquire any external data to your internal storage media.
Aaahhaha. I didn’t even read that bit before writing my first lines, and that only confirms my doubts.
Never seen these, eh?
What are we doing the file? ****Ing it?
Need to disambiguate between saving locally and saving directly to cloud storage.
Need to disambiguate between saving locally and saving directly to cloud storage.
I do agree overall, but it is less so these days as most modern applications where you’re creating something auto-save - either “in the cloud” or in a file recovery area set by the application.
In a web browser, “saving” an image or video or whatever is the same as “downloading.”
If you’re working on a document in something like Adobe - since most of their software now auto-saves your documents to their cloud service, “saving” is really just you creating another copy and bringing it to a specific location on you internal storage media… like downloading it.
I do want to point out that I personally am fine with the disk icon being forever associated with “saving” since it went from being a skeuomorphic symbol for legacy users to an abstract one for newer users, but if you were to twist my arm - that’s my argument as to why the “download arrow w/ an underline” works as well…
…though Jesus Christ - it seems that comment above where I was attempting to make that point is very contentious.
If Windows gets their way you don’t!
You can curse on Lemmy.
You a bot?
Edit: Oh, I see it now.
Not a bot.
They aren’t censoring swearwords. 5they are blanking it out to make a point about the word save.
Thanks. Apparently everyone hates that comment I made.
Thanks for pointing out. I totally missed that.
A cloud. Just to let them know they don’t own anything anymore.
the final fantasy 7 save crystal. because just look at it. LOOK AT IT!
It’s so goofy looking lol
If the floppy disk was no longer the save symbol for software, and I had to chose one, I’d chose the floppy disk symbol.
But you worded your question wisely to avoid that loophole, so I’m not sure what to use instead for an otherwise unique and ubiquitous symbol, already known as “the save file icon” for two generations that have not seen it.
While we’re at it, let’s also replace the phone icons with a rectangle, as to not confuse anyone.
Just change one pixel and call it new.
You could make it a zip drive. No one would know the difference…
Symbol of “the cross” with hover-over text in which Microsoft writes “pray I don’t amend it further.”
For that future timeline when the meaning of Save becomes “stop working, let Copilot perfect it, and close”
I thought it was going to be the cross because Jesus saves
Dawww, they’d claim that was the reason too. So, my idea goes behind the shed.
In Canada, a goalie’s hockey stick.
What? Not a Maple Syrup Spile?
Okay so hear me out.
The only solution here is Peter
Need to head out ? Oh ok lemme peter this document real quick.
Probably an arrow pointing to a hard drive.
Why a hard drive? Storage is moving to solid state. That icon would also be obsolete in a few years.
Because solid state drives can look like anything but a hard drive has the distinct arm and platter.
