Felt like they were on the rage as I was finishing high school, but now they’re nowhere to be seen.

I’d wager most of you haven’t even heard the term ‘straight-edge’ in months, or possibly years.

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    I’m not really into punk scenes or anything similar, but I feel like most young people now that would be straight edge are not adopting the aesthetic because they’re more conservative.

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    Drugs are such a chore. You try them, then you get addicted to them, then you end up in an endless pursuit of extra money to keep funding the addiction in addition to all of your other basic survival expenses. It’s a maniacal existence. From what I’ve observed. And I’m not interested in any of that maddening mayhem.

    Call me straight-edge if you need to label everything. But I’m not interested in labels either.

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    Because as an adult, you can simply choose whether to use drugs/alcohol and it’s not a big part of your identity like it was as a teen.

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    A lot of straight edge teenagers either lose their edge (leave alternative subcultures) or quit going straight (start using psychoactive substances). That said a lot of punks wind up sober and at that point can be considered straight edge.

    So where are they? The sort of places alternative folks gather when not consuming substances. They’re at an anarchist books to prisoners program, or food not bombs, maybe one is in the band at a small punk show you’re going to. Hell maybe it’s even one of your coworkers.

    Subcultures are really easy to see in high school because teenagers often don’t like to code switch and they’ve got little filtering. Add in that its easier to be sober when you’re a teenager and it feels rebellious and like you’re saying fuck you to the man. Meanwhile at 30, especially if you’re deep in alternative subcultures, you’ve probably learned the demons your friends are trying to drown in whiskey. You may have friends who had the whole Pat the Bunny arc. Loudly announcing your sobriety and acting like it’s super cool is one thing at 16 and another thing when someone you know just fell off the wagon.

    Oh also as adults a lot of them are more annoying about being vegan than being sober.

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    I was agreeing with you cause I haven’t really seen or used my straight edge since high school. Here I am thinking I don’t even have a ruler. Then I read the comments. I guess it’s not the literal straight edge.

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    I mean they may not know what straight edge means, but there are a shit-ton of people who don’t do drugs or alcohol…

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    So does straight edge strictly refer to not doing drugs? If that’s the definition, then I’m a straight edged person… Hell, I don’t even drink and I work for a Scottish company where all my co-workers drink like fish.

    I’m not religious, it has just always seemed dumb to me that people felt they needed to be inebriated to have a good time. Maybe this is just the normal for them so they don’t know any different? But doesn’t that seem pretty stupid? Anyways, I was stubborn in college and resisted peer pressure and by the time I didn’t care anymore, I just never saw the need to start drinking (or doing drugs). But I’m not here preach, I don’t really care what you do as long as it doesn’t affect me (i.e. drunk driving).

    I’m a CTO for a midsized company. I have three kids and I’ve been happily married for over 25 years. Between my friends, there are more people who don’t drink than those who do, but at work I’m definitely the oddball… But I’m also old enough that I don’t really give a shit what other people think so I’m perfectly happy going along and being the guy who doesn’t drink.

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      No that’s not straight edge, you have to be sober but also still part of the punk/hardcore subcultures where you’d be expected to partake.

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    To quote NOFX:

    It’s not the right time to be sober, now the idiots have taken over.

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      People that listen to hardcore that abstain from drugs and alcohol and commonly also from eating meat. They were easily recognizable by having painted a large sXe with a marker on their hand and maybe some additional letters on top and bottom for their particular flavour of Straight Edge. Here in Sweden they were quite common amongst punk rockers from the mid eighties up to late nineties.

      See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_edge

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        Thank you for the link. I’d heard of “straight laced” but never straight edged: punk was a bit before my time and I was out off by the general punk aesthetics when I was younger, only to realize I would have gotten on famously with punks over politics and many other things.

        Having read the wiki, it sounded reasonable until it got to no caffeine, hard stop.

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        That’s wild. I lived there during that timeframe and I have never seen the tattoo, neither even heard of those metalheads.

        Maybe it was a regional thing? I mean in Sweden.

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      Also,

      Folks who put the bar “no alcohol” (common at 18+ or family shows) permenant marker X’s across their own hand-back; punk and adjacent subcultures

      Some folks were on the wagon. Some folks wanted to not become their parents too quick. Some folks were young and new to everything else, and felt not ready for drugs yet. Some were physically or ideologicaly sensitive.

      Some still are, from the little popups.

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    I wasn’t really around when being straight-edge was an identity but honestly I think you don’t hear about it as much today because its a horrible time to be sober 24/7. Can’t imagine raw dogging this shit. Props to anyone who can though.

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      I don’t have a choice. Alcohol gives me insomnia and weed gives me super intense panic attacks. CBD stopped working so I just stopped everything.

      Yes, it sucks very very much.

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        That sounds awful I’m sorry. Funny enough weed is the only thing that actually works for my DSPD with any consistancy.

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          Thanks! To be honest it isn’t alllllll terrible, it’s kinda cool having dreams again lol when I smoked I either never had them or the short term memory loss just made me forget I had them.

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    Considering all the straight edge people I know seemed more into it to hate drugs and drug users more than about keeping a “straight edge”, they probably got absorbed into the manosphere somewhere.

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      Legitimately, the straight edge people I knew in high school are all republicans now.

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      You’re not allowed to be Sober if you don’t have an addict phase, it’s discrimination quite frankly, you have to go straight to Teetotaler