What education, qualifications, experience and/or expertise does this clown have? As far as I know, the only thing he knows about “pharma” would have come from his heroin use.
Someone diagnosed him as being ASD at some point in his life and he’s still mad about it because internalised ableism
No one’s that determined to bash autism unless they’re hiding a tism or two
If he just acknowledged his damned tisms he’d be able to get rid of the fucking rage trigger instead of taking it out on government policy in angry confusion
He said a bunch of shit that the country’s most fearful and illiterate people loved to hear, he validated the fringe conspiracy theorists which breeds a kind of obsessive love that you can’t buy with all the campaign money in the world, so Trump tapped him to keep pied-piper’ing the segments of rats who would vote for having a live porcupine stuffed down their pants if it meant validating the ONE topic that scares them the most. In this case, “mainstream science.”
Yeah, these are the sister-fuckers that BOOED their god-emperor Taco when he bragged about the vaccines (that he had next to nothing to do with - if anything we should be thanking Obama).
Because Taco is such a goddamned pussy, he backed off supporting the vaccines.
Because Taco is such a goddamned pussy, he backed off supporting the vaccines.
Nah it’s just he knows it doesn’t matter now. Nobody in the base he’s trying to hold onto looks into the past in any capacity. It’s done and over. It’s a new narrative now.
Trump and his “people” could start throwing babies in wood chippers on the white-house lawn today, and in 6 months they will say it never happened and their base will purge it from their memories like ballast and never revisit it. We are still underestimating how stupid a good 30% of the country is, and how moderately stupid the rest are.
The right is celebrating Trump and RFK Jr. right now. I wish we didn’t have so much “satisfaction porn” being circulated on social media highlighting how stupid Trump and RFK are, and showed more how unopposed they are. I swear a good 90% of the left in this country still thinks we’re scoring points and that any day now, it’s going to reach a point where someone is going to “do something.”
Assuming autism is “caused” by something and there is an “increase” of cases (not just diagnosis). Shouldn’t we start checking on Monsanto and the pesticides before anything else? Why are they obsessed with vaccines and medications?
Is there really an increase in autism or increase in awareness of neurodivergent/autistic people? The increase in diagnosis doesn’t necessarily mean there’s an anctual increase of cases. You can’t measure anything if you don’t look for it in the first place.
This is a really important point. Diagnoses go up with each revision of the DSM (at least in the US, as it’s put out by the American Psychiatric Association) because the authors are intentionally making the criteria more expansive.
To be clear this is policy and guidance playing catch up with reality, and it still hasn’t caught all the way up.
Be wary of anyone conflating increases in rates of diagnoses with rates of occurrence, anybody talking about changes in rates of autism diagnoses that fails to speak to this is either being disingenuous or are themselves the victims of others disingenuity.
It’s like putting down mousetraps and then being surprised to find mice in them. The mousetraps don’t increase the number of mice (ideally they decrease them!) but they can change your perception of how many mice there are by increasing opportunities for exposure.
Is there really an increase in autism or increase in awareness of neurodivergent/autistic people?
That’s exactly what the person you’re replying to meant by…
“increase” of cases (not just diagnosis).
I was deeply saddened in the midst of Covid when I realized that is actually a difficult topic for people to understand. I thought people watched Sesame Street growing up, I thought they could do things like “count” or understand that different kinds of numbers mean measurements of different things.
Nope. Most people are disconnected from anything deeper than the immediate narrative they’re fed. No matter their political affiliation or supposed values, people have just broadly turned off their capacity to reason things out.
I had a full-on mental-health episode when I realized how bad it was. I had people in my own family who complained endlessly about having to wear masks when they went out, and immediately ripped the masks off their faces when they came inside a house or store and only wore it outdoors. I couldn’t get some people to understand what a virus is on the most abstract level.
The lack of basic understanding how biology and other grade-school level understanding of the world works needs to be uncovered. We’re in a crisis. This level of ignorance we’ve allowed to develop will literally ruin the world. It’s already in progress.
Not to mention if you read how people who lived before modern medicine were described, you can guess if they were autistic or add. Not to mention the ones who were very low functioning were a secret kept at home or institutionalized.
The increase in diagnosis doesn’t necessarily mean there’s an anctual increase of cases.
Everyone knows this but they are letting them re-write reality anyway. They did this with Covid, an actual lethal virus that killed over a million Americans. We may never know the actual death-count because of conservative administration efforts to decrease diagnosis numbers. And they were OPEN about this, and we didn’t march on DC then, so I don’t expect it’s going to get much better going forward.
Tylenol.
Acetominaphen.
… Arguably the most common component of general, over the counter pain relievers… on the planet.
I mean…
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2817406
Here ya go, here’s a 2024 study debunking the thing that RFK is likely referencing.
EDIT: Further, folinic acid as a ‘treatment’ for autism.
So… yes, there are early preliminary studies indicating that this may be a way of alliviating some of the effecfs of non-syndromic ASD.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5794882/
Non-syndromic ASD is essentially nonverbal, nonresponsive ASD.
… There are many autistic people and kids who are not non-syndromic, an ASD diagnosis does not even require this kind of behavior.
Further, the proposed mechanism of action in using folinic acid to ‘treat’ autism is that it acts upon an abnormal level of folate blockers…
While it is true that ASD folks tend to have more of these folate blockers than non ASD folks…
Many of them do not.
Generally speaking, abnormal folate pathways… appear to be called Cerebral Folate Disorder (CFD) by this Dr. Frye who seems to be spearheading this line of research.
… I am also somewhat concerned that many of his studies are funded by Autism Speaks, an organization notorious for, amongst other things, not actually allowing autistic people to speak, generally viewing autism, as Dr. Frye put it, ‘a devastating life long condition’, akin to leukemia (cancer of the blood) which must be cured, thus propogating a stigma, stereotype and fear of autism, and of course, being a shitty non-profit that spends the vast majority of its funding on ‘operational costs’, as opposed to… you know, actually doing things that might be helpful to autistic people… and more or less advocating eugenics while saying they aren’t but then immediately afterwaed advocating a different kind of eugenics.
https://www.themarysue.com/the-autism-speaks-controversy-explained/
Nevertheless:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40362912/
There are a number of small scale studies like this one, done by people not directly associated with Dr. Frye, that do seem to show improvements amongst non syndromic ASD individuals who also have this folate abnormality and/or the genetic mutations that are associated with it…
But I am so far unable to find any large scale studies.
Soooooo…
Yeah.
I am going with ‘very preliminary positive results for a subset of autistic people’ on this one.
Maybe, maybe, at best, Dr. Frye has discovered an actually physically distinguishable subtype or subcomponent of ASD, and a potentially effective treatment for that subcomponent.
Maybe.
Oooorrrrr…
Maybe there should be a study which takes into account how ASD kids respond to folinic acid, when you also devise a way to measure whether or not the parents treat those.studied autistic kids as hopeless defectives, vs actual tiny people whose brains just work a bit differently.
There is still a huge amount of research showing that the ‘nurture’ component of a person’s upbrining greatly affects their liklihood of developing, and severity of ASD.
Will he use fake studies hallucinated by chatGPT for this report, too?
How far are we along with “autism is a genetic defect and we are now euthanizing defective humans for the benefit of society” are we?
His fixation on autism is super creepy.
Especially as a ‘disease,’ not a spectrum.
Not to belittle the effects on people of course.
How else are we supposed to make the pure superior American race? /s
So something so ludicrously common that it basically can’t be proved. Super.
Did you know that 97% of people killed in car accidents clean their teeth on a regular basis? I think we need to look into that.
it basically can’t be proved.
Due to a massive dip in Tylenol sales from the tainted bottles scandal in 1982, Kenvue can easily prove autism rates were not affected.
100% of people who died drank water
Oddly I don’t think that can be a full 100% due to infant death during or shortly after birth.
The mother ingested water. We’re in a thread based on the host consuming things
The host is a great description, going to have to start using that… well maybe not.
The way it lands would probably depend on context, including who the speaker is. Having a uterus and calling yourself a “potential host” is vastly different from someone else, for example RFK Jr, using the term to refer to others. One is a deliberate subversion of the expectation that anyone with a uterus is supposed to be pro “having babies.” The other can be straight-up dehumanization (depending on how it’s used.)
Being on the internet, where the sex and gender of a speaker aren’t always obvious, you’re probably making a wise choice by avoiding the term.
With all that said, as a uterus-haver, I still laughed when I read it. So… ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯
I for some reason though of it being used in the worst video dating reel. Think “lowered expectations” but with some modern “trad wife” wanting asshat.
“Looking for an available female for the purpose of becoming the host of my son”
It’s the fluoride!
100% of people exposed to dihydrogen monoxide eventually die, and sometimes develop an array of diseases and disorders before their inevitable death.
I had to look twice to make sure it wasn’t The Onion. I pray to the god that doesnt exist that the world somehow recovers from this and people look back at this chapter of human history as the time we finally learned not to let fucking idiots be in charge…
Anti-intellectuallism is a repeating story in world history. Something about human genetics makes our communities susceptible to this. Khmer Rouge and China’s Cultural Revolution are a couple of examples of these movements gaining control of a government. Witch hunts (any woman with knowledge perceived to threaten church teaching must burn) were a long standing practice often driven from non-governmental actors.
It always passes, but previous iterations have taken decades or hundreds of years.
Witch hunts were something extremely special.
Did you know that during the middle ages witchcraft was actually denied by the Roman Catholic Church? As in they denied witches existed despite biblical mentions. In some parts of Eastern Europe it was even a crime to accuse a woman of Witchcraft.
So what happened? In the same way that the internet made knowledge extremely easy to obtain, it also made misinformation able to spread like never before. The printing press did that. There was exactly one book on Witchcraft published towards the end of the Middle Ages that got widespread circulation due to the printing press. Then Witch burning and trials became common.
Its nuts to think that.
I hadn’t previously come across the printing press as an influence on witch hunts, interesting. It is pretty far down the Wikipedia article, though, and a different book printed almost two hundred years later is also cited as highly influential. I devoutly hope we are not in for two hundred years of unchecked social media and AI driven misinformation.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch_hunt
…in 1487, Kramer published the notorious Malleus Maleficarum (lit., ‘Hammer against the Evildoers’) which, because of the newly invented printing presses, enjoyed a wide readership. It was reprinted in 14 editions by 1520 and became unduly influential in the secular courts.
The 1647 book, The Discovery of Witches, soon became an influential legal text. The book was used in the American colonies as early as May 1647, when Margaret Jones was executed for witchcraft in Massachusetts, the first of 17 people executed for witchcraft in the Colonies from 1647 to 1663.
This is the phrase/term ‘medieval witch hunt’ is inaccurate. Witch hunts and trials didn’t start until the early modern period and didn’t reach their peak until the 17th century.
Of course you could make the argument that despite it being ‘early modern’, most people’s mindsets were still positively medieval. There was a hell of a lot of superstition and all manner of weird crap in daily life and even in the legal system. For example, it was believed that the corpse of a murder victim could point out its murderer if the murderer interacted with the body in some way. Another thing is the belief in ‘life force’ (I forgot the term they used) for people who were murdered or executed. The reason is that since those people’s deaths were not natural, their bodies still had surplus ‘life energy’ that could be used to heal the sick or dying. Obviously that didn’t work, but it still tells you a lot about their mentality.
Also in medicine and medical thinking, while there was steady experimenting happening in higher society, for the average person who rarely saw a ‘real’ doctor, many people were still thinking in terms of the 4 humours as late as the very early 19th century, with a lot of medical thinking being ancient, like thinking that some pastes and medicines made from worms would help to heal scars since worm bodies look a little like scars themselves.
Yeah, the age of the Non-Expert and the stupid people that think that’s a good thing.
Like the podcasters on Professional Left say, I want some of these assholes that vote for this shit (“because Taco is not a politician!”) to have their fucking teeth drilled by “not a dentist”.
FFS.
I link this worm infested brain dead twat to a very large piece of shit.
Wow, autism turns out to be not only bad but also women’s fault. Amazing what an investigation under the impartial leadership of misogynist neo-Nazis can discover.
Well as long as we can blame women, that’s what’s really important. Remember moms, if your child is neurodivergent it’s entirely your fault you irresponsible hag.
you irresponsible hag.
This sounds like satire, as though this isn’t exactly what these people actually think.
100 years ago, when these people think was the ‘golden age’, women were actually blamed for their children’s issues. They blamed nearly everything on women. Yeah, let’s go back to that: MAGA women, how does that sound to you? Do you think you’re one of the good ones?
Let’s bring back lobotomies for women who have too many opinions, too. The world was better when only men were allowed to have opinions and women were the root of all evil, like the bible says.
This sounds like satire, as though this isn’t exactly what these people actually think.
It still happens today.
I just had a baby. You’ve no idea how many times we were told “Good/Great Job Mom” after hearing the baby is healthy, and seeing it isn’t deformed.
As if an illness would be my wife’s fault.
We just left those on read. Like WTF?
My wife had cancer young and it caused her to be unable to nurse our children; she just couldn’t produce enough and so we bottle fed our kids. It’s been over 10 years but she still gets shit on for it by certain types (including some in my own family who remind us whenever they get a cold). She is so goddamned, rightfully angry with the types who try to shame people for not breastfeeding.
Those types are in charge of policy right now.
Why not some raw milk, tho?
/s
One remembers the “refrigerator mothers” idea
Oh god. I’d never heard of that. That was a thing, started by an asshole psychologist in the 1940s. Legit psychopathic mentality, wtf.
e: so the jist is that your kid is autistic because you suck at being a parent and are too ‘cold’. Imagine your’re doing everything you can, but the entire medical system is telling you it’s your fault for not caring enough. That’s the ultimate gaslighting. Because if you cared enough, your kid wouldn’t be this way.
e2: and reading more, they took kids away on this grounds. I feel so horrible for those parents. You had no recourse at all. You were doing your best, and your child had a medical issue, but based on the social symptoms of your child you were a ‘refrigerator mother’ so your kid was put in an orphanage. Wtf.
And I’m sure the orphanage cured the symptoms? 🤦♂️
I guess they’re ‘cured’, if you mean ‘dead and buried in mass unmarked graves’. e: they don’t have those symptoms anymore.
Leonard’s mother in Big Bang Theory is based on this theory.
Although technically she should be Sheldon’s mother.
And Sheldon’s mother should be Howard’s mother. And he should be gay.
I was once told that Tylenol wouldn’t pass today’s standards of the FDA. I believe it. Pretty sure that it’s the second leading cause of liver failure… Don’t both ibuprofen and naproxen last longer?
Tylenol is definitely bad for you, but it doesn’t cause autism.
He will not make that link because it’s not there and literally nobody can.
He may, however, lie and be wrong.
No no he wants pregnant women to start taking ibuprofen.
Next up, the rise in prenatal mortality is linked to Democrats somehow
Brace yourself, folinic acid and acedomediphine are about to be politicized. I’m reading up before the noise is too loud:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folinic_acid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracetamol
And the pages are locked, if not defaced, lol.
Why will they be politicized?
There are a couple of historical examples that escape my soft brain, but ivermectin is a big one.
Basically, during COVID-19, some rural doctor in India published a paper on Ivermectin reducing COVID fatalities. Which is great!
…Because Ivermectin is a livestock dewormer. It’s an anti-parasitic, so it reduced the chance of co-infection with parasites in rural India (which would weaken your immune system so you’re more likely to die of COVID).
But the anti-vax crowd lost this nuance in the paper and ran with this as an alternative treatment, misinformation that still persists today.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivermectin#COVID-19_misinformation
…That’s whats about to happen.
Tylenol (acedomediphine) will be forever linked to causing autism, true or not. No one amount of refutation is going to kill the meme.
And Folinic acid, whether its a provably effective treatment or not, is not going to get touted by the anti-vaxx crown who ‘believe’ in its efficacy.
Okay, so does that mean vaccines for everyone?
I mean, I can get behind giving everyone this false belief if it means they’d go out and get their families vaccinated. I’m not above weaponizing their stupidity to save their lives.
This is crazy and is going to get so many more people hooked on opiates.
With the plethora of other NSAIDs, would opiates be the next recourse anyway?
I already tend to avoid acetaminophen since the others are better liver wise anyway.
Maybe not relevant, but Tylenol (acetominophen) isn’t classified as an NSAID. Whatever, I see no reason to trust RFKj on any matter of health, medicine, or pharmaceuticals. The man is an uneducated crank who achieved his position in trade for asskissing.
If RFK Jr. Was born just one generation prior, his family would have disowned him and placed him in a mental institution. He benefitted from being born to a fairly liberal family.
Tell that to his sister Rosemary.
She was born one generation prior… and yeah, a girl. She got fucked.
NSAIDs can’t be used in pregnancy
Because there has been some links observed that it may be related to ASD in infants. Like Ibuprofen.
Most countries outside North America avoid NSAIDs because of liver damage. In 2025, I have no idea why NSAIDs are over-the-counter. But in countries that avoid acetominophen, they still have autism.
Acetaminophen is not an NSAID. They are OTC because they are overwhelmingly safe, in the directed dosages on the label.
Yeah. The liver part is why I also avoid it. Especially if you like to have a few drinks every once in a while
