The thing is everyone that would ever be inclined to believe that of Charlie Kirk already knows. To call him out posthumously doesn’t tend to sway people that listened to him, it makes those people double down.
Ironically, this strategy probably makes the most of his death. People get to see the risks his behavior incurred while also seeing a peaceable path to de-escalation.
If he wants to engage the right in any meaningful way, he has little choice because Charlie was made into a martyr.
The best practical outcome may be messages like this and recognition the killing was infighting, not a leftist move. Maybe the broader conservative movement figures out you can’t stir up violent extremism and expect it to consistently point in the direction you would want.
I get the frustration, but he managed to get a bunch of right wingers to share and endorse his message. He got right wing people to commend a message that included calling out January 6th.
The outcome did more for getting right wing people to work toward tamping that down than focusing on calling them out ever would. Call them out when they are their most scared and they get defensive and escalate. Recognize their troubles right alongside their sins and you get a more productive response.
Right, but it says “Mario”, and that was not the first game that featured the character.
Judging from the transcript, they are specifically talking about a fatal stabbing on a bus in Charlotte.
They’ve jumped all over this because:
Bonus points, they threw Thom Tillis ® under the bus, because he actually said that maybe sometimes he didn’t fully agree with Trump.
I’m not a huge fan of anyone meeting this sort of end.
A little mixed feelings because on the other hand I have a bit of an appreciation of the context of a man that has openly consistently declared gun deaths as somewhat acceptable getting killed by a gun.
But ultimately, I would have rather seen him get his ass kicked or a few handgun bullets to the vest to give him some appropriate fear and consequences without him becoming a martyr. Ideally i would have liked him to just get scared into not actively trying to troll people the way he did. Further for it to be clear from the very first moment that it was MAGA infighting, to avoid the incident increasing an already strained division and maybe show the movement the dangerous game they are playing.
Left out being nagged to death about other products and services microsoft thinks you should buy.
he’ll be the oldest president in history upon leaving office.
That assumes he makes it 3 years. I’m not so sure that his health will hold out that long.
Of all the people I was worried about materially contributing to the mess, Charlie Kirk was pretty low on the list.
He said vile stuff, but he was not himself a wielder of power. His rhetoric and words had power, he did not. His death in this manner has given strength to that rhetoric and those words without removing any of his meaningful influence to the system.
Better that these folks suffer the fear of what they court, to have their own MAGA fanatics turn against them with violence that scares them, but leaves them largely intact to have them retreat from their position without becoming martyrs.
Now if some folks actively wielding the power in harmful ways meet some ends, I might have a little less mixed feelings about it.
I will confess to perhaps not celebrating, but appreciating the connection between his sociopathic stance on gun deaths and he himself joining a group he himself said we shouldn’t be so concerned about.
Yeah, worried about this and the punishment doesn’t fit the crime, and too much room for his death to be weaponized, like you say.
Would have much rather him taken a few to the vest from a handgun from a pissed off obviously MAGA person. Give him some pain and a good scare to have him realize personally just how risky the hornet’s nest is that he is stirring. Something that might be a close enough call for others to see without becoming a rallying cry and a clear link to the violence of the rhetoric without a chance to blame ‘the other’.
I will have empathy
How dare you dishonor his memory.
Or the neck hit was more chance. There’s an assumption that the shooter hit precisely where he was aiming, but it could have just been where the bullet happened to hit, close to the amining point, but not exact.
Yeah, without knowing context, you might think it’s someone admitting that we need gun control, but no, his point was that we shouldn’t care about the gun deaths so much…
No, and that’s a good thing. They were douches but that’s none of the president’s official business.
Yes, but just like quality, the people in charge of money aren’t totally on top of security either. They just see superficially convincing tutorial fodder and start declaring they will soon be able to get rid of all those pesky people. Even if you convince them a human does it better, they are inclined to think ‘good enough for the price’.
So you can’t say “it’s no better than human at quality” and expect those people to be discouraged, it has to be pointed out how wildly off base it is.
Then there’s the phase where you are watching something and people are trying to remember if the actor is still alive or not
One issue that remains is that the LLM doesn’t care if it is telling the truth or lying. To be a CEO, it needs to be more inclined to lie.
If, hypothetically, the code had the same efficacy and quality as human code, then it would be much cheaper and faster. Even if it was actually a little bit worse, it still would be amazingly useful.
My dishwasher sometimes doesn’t fully clean everything, it’s not as strong as a guarantee as doing it myself. I still use it because despite the lower quality wash that requires some spot washing, I still come out ahead.
Now this was hypothetical, LLM generated code is damn near useless for my usage, despite assumptions it would do a bit more. But if it did generate code that matched the request with comparable risk of bugs compared to doing it myself, I’d absolutely be using it. I suppose with the caveat that I have to consider the code within my ability to actual diagnose problems too…
Problem is there’s a big undertone of the administration penalizing news organizations that day things that are unwelcome. Interfering with their business dealings, limiting their access to information they need to provide coverage, bending things a bit to help out “news” outlets that are treating him well.
Because if there’s one thing the extreme right has been needing it’s an excuse from Bernie Sanders to act they way they do.
There’s no version of a message from Bernie that would sway the extreme right. His message managed to get right wingers to endorse and share a message that cited the following events as unacceptable:
Even among the incidents where a right wing figure was the target, most were committed by a right wing perpetrator or apolitical motives, with only one or two of them credibly left-wing in origin.
So you have an audience of conserveritives that are not “ride or die” with MAGA but might have considered the Nick Fuentes types a bunch of useful idiots that can advance their perspective and be a risk only toward the people they don’t like anyway. I think this is just the event and message for those folks to realize just how dangerous these extremists are to them that they try to weaponize on their behalf. Maybe it can’t work, but a message from Bernie Sanders coming out hard against the right wouldn’t have done anything vaguely productive.