• Got_Bent@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Their recruiting offices were set up directly across the street from my daughter’s high school right next to the Burger King where all the seniors went to lunch.

    Shady as fuck

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      They also exclusively target lower to middle class areas because rich people have options, and the capitalist oligarchy love that poverty to cannon fodder pipeline.

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        Which is conveniently the real reason they are trying to ban abortion. Because poor kids without options are easy to recruit as cannon fodder

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            I would imagine that behind closed doors, men in positions of power have had conversations about the potential recruits the military is losing with easy access to abortion, but I agree with you.

            For the most part there is no grand conspiracy, just passionate nuts who believe they’re going to live forever who found a shortcut to what they imagine is God’s approval. Like that nut who climbs buildings to raise awareness or whatever it is he’s doing. They believe when they die, they’ll wake up on a cloud and hear “Jesus Loves the Little Children” playing in the background. Their lord will walk up to them and embrace them, tell them what a good job they did shouting about saving babies as he pets their hair.

            I grew up in that world. So glad I don’t still live in it.

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    Army is a bunch of parasites on the face of the Earth. Parasites that set the rules, as any ruler turning against them will be overthrown.

    Army doesn’t make any productive labor; instead, it siphons trillions of dollars making the machines intentionally designed to kill people - and puts them to use.

    Society loses literally nothing without armies. They don’t “protect” you from anything but other armies, and without armies and wars and threats we could move way further as a humanity.

    Don’t let anyone brainwash you into accepting this monstrosity. Army is bullying their own countries, bullying and extorting each and every one of us. They are the real enemy. And they will do everything in their power to distract you from that.

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      You lift the mask off the Military, and it’s Imperialism. Lift the mask again and it’s Capitalism.

      “And I’m getting away with it too, despite you meddling kids!”

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          Read about General Smedey Butler. Vet of multiple wars, the most highly decorated man in Marines history, two medals of honour, he had the opportunity to be the US’s first dictator, but was ultimately an anti-war, anti-facist, anti-capitalist pacifist. He perfectly encapsulates how the army andvtge wars they have are just an extension of capitalist interests and act to further the capitalists desires.

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            If you said, “Army is beneficial for elites.” I’d be banging the same drum. It’s not unique to capitalism in any way. Communists are just as bad.

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    I still fondly remember my friend Bob Niederider from high school in the '80s. One day an Army recruiter came to talk to our history class, and at the end he asked if anybody had any questions. Bob raised his hand and said “yeah I have a question: does napalm still stick to kids?” I didn’t really appreciate this at the time - and the recruiter certainly didn’t, either.

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    War is lame. It’s just a bunch of people killing each other while the real people in power sit in comfy chairs watching it all unfold. Can we just all get along?

    Oh wait, you have oil? Oh, um, he hit me first. 💥🔫⚔️🛢️💯

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      It’s not even much scenic and heroic, actually, despite armies trying their best to market it as all glossy and amazing.

      Nah - just a meat grinder, dying in the dirt after your limbs got shredded by someone’s grenade, or after getting a bullet into your chest. Painful. Lonely. Scary. Death. No one’s gonna hail you; your corpse will be a shredded bloody meat covered in urine. A corpse that may never even get found. That’s war.

      And if you’ll stay alive, you’ll envy the dead. Death ahead, death behind. One order - and you can be convicted to certain end. In front - the enemy. On the back - soldiers of your own country ready to shoot you down. You lie in the trenches, hoping no grenade, no bomb will find its way there, your feet are cold, you feel feverish. No one cares. Everyone here is one foot in the grave. That’s war.

      Barely anyone who survives doesn’t have severe PTSD. And the worst part - humans do it to themselves. For bullshit glory. Desperate for money. For their twisted model of honor. But really - because those in power don’t see problem in letting other people die for their own interests.

      If you’re lucky to have never witnessed war, take a look at unedited, uncensored footage. Watch it, watch people die like animals for the most stupid reasons imaginable. Watch soldiers screaming in pain. Watch civilians dying in debris. That. Is. War.

      We never deserved to have this on us, and it is people just like me and you who make this violence happen, who spill the blood, scared of meeting their own end right where they’re at. This is stupid. This should end. And we can make a change.

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    I’ll go against the grain here.

    I joined not long after high school because I wasn’t gonna be able to pay for college, not that I was a good student anyway.

    Spent most of my 4 year Air Force enlistment in the UK doing what I wanted - sysad, basically. Never deployed.

    Got out and worked for increasingly higher pay and now I make $250k+ without a college degree.

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      I joined not long after high school because I wasn’t gonna be able to pay for college, not that I was a good student anyway.

      Should you not be pissed off that this was one of the very few options you had in order to have a chance at success later in life because of your economic situation rather than touting this as a good idea?

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        There’s nothing wrong with mandatory military service if your military doesn’t pick fights with everyone else’s.

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          I think the US would be a lot better off with a mandatory period of service. Not exclusively military, but an option between that and some kind of civil service. I think it would do a lot to bring the country together.

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              Slavery requires a lack of compensation, which was nowhere implied. A mandatory civic responsibility to participate in the government—a government that everyone benefits from, and one that doesn’t fucking work if people don’t participate—does not meet any definition of slavery.

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                Slavery requires a lack of compensation,

                No, that is a definition that was constructed as apologism for various different forms of forced labor

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                  Be that as it may, a civil service obligation does not meet any reasonable person’s definition of slavery. Equating the two is both offensive and fallacious.

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              So you see no distinction between…

              “chain around your neck, abducted from your place of birth, sailed across the world stuffed into a deck 2 foot high, sold to the highest bidder, brought to a farm, whipped until you’re bloody, served gruel, tortured at will, killed if you escape, never being compensated for your labour, worked until you die or killed off when no longer economically useful”

              … and …

              “joining the forces for 9 months, fully paid, or become a conscientious objector and file books in a library for 9 months; in either case your full legal rights remain”

              ?

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                I didn’t say I see no difference? Killing someone by slowly torturing them over years and just shooting them is different. They’re both still murder though. Forced labor is slavery, some slavery is worse than others- but all slavery is bad.