I hear these justifications a lot, but the conclusion doesn’t follow from the premises.
The value of the archival data that can be affected by deleting or editing is almost entirely only user-accessed value. Reddit isn’t harmed at all from the edits. It primarily needs active regular users to improve its stock value. Alternatively, it can sell archival data for AI training.
Editing old comments removes neither value source from Reddit. You moved away from it so deprived it of both the material value of new comments and the statistical value of being an active user. Reddit also assuredly has saved data from before the API issue and can likely spot and clean the mass edits to sell the data from training purposes.
Conversely, the value to users and society is high. So many solutions to problems that are gone forever. The Internet is decaying already and it gets harder to find useful information, and those leaving decided to just burn down a library of Alexandria.
It’s their - and your - right, sure. They’re by definition done on comments the user owns. But this is just punching desperate Internet users in the face hoping it gives Reddit a bloody nose.
Ah, where are those books now? Which shelves can I find them on?
I get the metaphorical point, but it’s a point without effect. “Removing with no possible present or future access” is the same as “burning” for society’s purposes.
Nope, all new comments. Better comments. If you miss the old ones, well sorry but it’s weird that you’re trying to claim ownership over my thoughts and self expression. I don’t owe you or the internet a damn thing.
You compared deleting my own posts to book burning. You have some weird sense of entitlement where you believe you own my thoughts. You don’t. I do. I can change them, I can remove them, I can grow as a person and develop new thoughts and I don’t give a shit if you like it.
Buddy, this is in my original post: “It’s their - and your - right, sure. They’re by definition done on comments the user owns. But this is just punching desperate Internet users in the face hoping it gives Reddit a bloody nose.”
I’m making a point about cause and effect, and started out conceding that you can do what you want with your own comments. You’re arguing with a phantom projection of your own pet peeves.
I hear these justifications a lot, but the conclusion doesn’t follow from the premises.
The value of the archival data that can be affected by deleting or editing is almost entirely only user-accessed value. Reddit isn’t harmed at all from the edits. It primarily needs active regular users to improve its stock value. Alternatively, it can sell archival data for AI training.
Editing old comments removes neither value source from Reddit. You moved away from it so deprived it of both the material value of new comments and the statistical value of being an active user. Reddit also assuredly has saved data from before the API issue and can likely spot and clean the mass edits to sell the data from training purposes.
Conversely, the value to users and society is high. So many solutions to problems that are gone forever. The Internet is decaying already and it gets harder to find useful information, and those leaving decided to just burn down a library of Alexandria.
It’s their - and your - right, sure. They’re by definition done on comments the user owns. But this is just punching desperate Internet users in the face hoping it gives Reddit a bloody nose.
Would you sign up for a social media website if all the tech support posts looked like the above?
I wouldn’t sign up for a social media website if all the useful posts were from before June, 2023.
That’s why the people deleting their posts also stop posting
This. Good points above an all, but they missed this being the main point. imo
If that were true, then why did Reddit respond to the mass deletions (that’s what people did at first, not edits) by undeleting the comments?
More like I had my book taken off the shelves because the librarians are dicks
Ah, where are those books now? Which shelves can I find them on?
I get the metaphorical point, but it’s a point without effect. “Removing with no possible present or future access” is the same as “burning” for society’s purposes.
Lemmy
You’ve reposted all of your deleted Reddit comments to Lemmy?
Nope, all new comments. Better comments. If you miss the old ones, well sorry but it’s weird that you’re trying to claim ownership over my thoughts and self expression. I don’t owe you or the internet a damn thing.
See the last paragraph of my post. I both addressed this, and am talking about past comments, not future comments.
You compared deleting my own posts to book burning. You have some weird sense of entitlement where you believe you own my thoughts. You don’t. I do. I can change them, I can remove them, I can grow as a person and develop new thoughts and I don’t give a shit if you like it.
Buddy, this is in my original post: “It’s their - and your - right, sure. They’re by definition done on comments the user owns. But this is just punching desperate Internet users in the face hoping it gives Reddit a bloody nose.”
I’m making a point about cause and effect, and started out conceding that you can do what you want with your own comments. You’re arguing with a phantom projection of your own pet peeves.
Edit: Removed duplicate quote.
the highest value content, is mostly political anyways, its draws in more money for a platform, because users are addicted ragebait.