HEADPHONE JACK - I scream into the void
IR transmitters
Miracast (in base open source Android, especially access to the ability to receive)
Scrolling notification text in the notification bar (seriously, that was sooooo much better than the obnoxious new default pop-up notifications)
A bunch of permissions that’s been too locked down (stuff used by Tasker, networking tools, etc)
I really miss USB Mass Storage mode. Back then you could plug in your phone into your computer and it would just expose the internal storage and SD card as standard usb storage devices. Nowadays you have shitty MTP which works barely if ever, so you’re forced to use either internet or ADB for syncing files. Old way was better.
IIRC you can still enable it if you compile your own kernel but I wish more ROMs shipped with this feature by default.
Physical keyboards, easily removable backs and batteries
Being smaller than a phablet in 2010s. Bring back 4 inch phones for fuck’s sake. You can price them at the same level as your gigantic six-inchers, I’ll happily pay for it as long as the insides of the phone are premium otherwise. I should know that my phone is in my pocket by putting my hands on it, not because it’s sticking out or making it impossible to sit down.
A 4" Pixel 9 Micro running GrapheneOS. I’d pay a thousand euros right now if such a thing existed.
But of course they have fucked up the UX of the operating system in such a way that a regular-sized phone like that cannot be practically used anymore. Oh well.
physical home button row.
give me those clickety clicks, i hate accidentally hitting back/home/whatever, whenever I’m typing or scrolling
Ability to automatically turn wifi on and off with screen.
There used to be a one-click root option in older phones (I don’t remember which one)
Animated and spanning backgrounds.
Open bootloaders, ir blaster, 3.5mm jack, sd card slot, replaceable batteries. The list goes on.
Some chinese phones still have ir blasters
Don’t forget the notification light.
The most bullshit thing ever. I have a Moto 5g Ace, I was sad it didn’t have a light, used it for a couple years before putting LineageOS on it. Low and behold it actually has a notification light that was disabled in the stock ROM! WTF
Isn’t having an OLED display and using it as an “always on display” the replacement for this?
Yeah, and unless it’s only activating a few pixels at a time it’s not the same.
This is more or less how oled works iirc
It’s how it can work, which doesn’t necessarily mean the firmware is set up to use it that way.
yeah but not every device is oled.
The notification light for me was never all that useful, i have unique ringtones for everything but i do agree they are an awesome feature for folks in spaces where their phones need to be quiet
I liked them, if not just because there’s no reason not to have it. It was always subtle and functional.
Why can’t the camera “flash” be used for this? IOS has settings for it in accessibility features.
You know? That’s a good question. I wouldn’t think it would be very hard to just do a minor redesign of the flash LED to do that.
The flash pattern and frequency were set different for email, sms and other. On mine at least. It was really handy not needing to turn the screen on at all.
Motorola G series has 3.5mm + SD card slot
Hmmm, that’s deffo a contender for my next device, we’ll see how many years i get out of my zf9 before getting one though lol
OnePlus make phones that still have many of those features
my xiaomi has an ir blaster and i love it
I was pleasantly surprised when my OnePlus 13 had an IR blaster.
Is any of that an android feature? It’s mostly hardware, I think you can still get devices that have some combination of those (maybe not the IR blaser).
Title says “android phone”, not just Android
Most manufacturers dropped all or most of those features.
The physical fingerprint reader on the back of the phone.
Curiously, why on the back?
I always found that a worse location than phones that had it on the side (usually paired with the power button), as you can’t unlock your phone if it’s lying flat on a table without picking it up.
(Also the way I typically hold my phone, the usually top centre sensor is absolutely nowhere near where any of my fingers naturally sit, and requires awkward bending to reach it)
I know a lot of people like it, but I’ve never been able to figure out what it was about it.
I’d pull it out of my pocket with my finger naturally on the back side and it would be unlocked by the time I viewed the screen.
Im not OP, bit i loved my old phone with a rear fingerprint scanner. It was perfectly positioned to unlock with my index finger AS I was pulling it out of my pocket. And you could scroll up/down with it.
I do not like the power button fingerprint reader.
- Cases need a notch to expose the power button.
- Can’t use the power button to lock the screen while fingerprint unlock is enabled, because it immediately unlocks itself with the fingerprint.
- Accidentally unlocks itself way often when putting it in my pocket than with the back reader.
The 2nd and even 3rd point is not automatically true for every phone and setting. I have a combined fingerprint reader and power button on my Fairphone 5, and the 2nd thing has always worked just fine.
It also has the option to only enable the fingerprint reader if the display is on, which addresses your 3rd point completely. It means you can pick the phone up, including having a finger in the reader, and it won’t turn on or unlock. You need to press down in the button to trigger the screen, then it can be unlocked. That also means that when locking it and turning off the screen actively by pressing the power button with the phone on, it never re-unlocks. To be honest this part wasn’t a problem before the setting became available, as the locking would disable the fingerprint reader anyway, but letting your grip go slightly could trigger re-unlock.
Only activating the fingerprint reader when the screen is on is a regression compared to the rear reader. It means I need to squeeze the phone to unlock it, vs just placing my finger in the right spot. It also negates the purported advantage from the comment above mine about being able to easily unlock the phone while lying on a table.
I’m not arguing that the power button reader doesn’t work for anyone. I’m saying that it is qualitatively worse UX for me in particular.
My eldest’s phone has this. Your second point is valid and a pain in the ass.
Cases need a notch to expose the power button
I don’t see why that’s a problem.
Can’t use the power button to lock the screen while fingerprint unlock is enabled, because it immediately unlocks itself with the fingerprint.
Sounds like you just had a shitty phone, that shouldn’t happen.
Accidentally unlocks itself way often when putting it in my pocket than with the back reader.
Again, shitty phone. You’re supposed to actually push the button to unlock it. Don’t understand why your finger would be on the back of the phone when putting it in your pocket anyway.
Again, shitty phone. You’re supposed to actually push the button to unlock it. Don’t understand why your finger would be on the back of the phone when putting it in your pocket anyway.
This isn’t a “shitty phone” thing. Every phone I’ve owned with a side-mounted fingerprint reader has unlocked via touch (not press). It’s standard.
Yes it is. Once again, we were talking about on the back.
Again, we were talking about the back.
I hold my screen facing me so my hands are already resting on the back.
Lots of android phones have a physical fingerprint reader
on the back of the phone.
On the side isn’t good enough?
Their preference was the back. So no.
To me it sounded like the main distinction they were trying to make was a dedicated fingerprint reader button rather than an in-screen finger print reader. This is a common preference because the hardware scanner you can activate by touch without working about proper placement, whereas the in-screen readers you have to look at the screen and carefully put your finger just in the on-screen circle showing where you have to precisely place your finger
I just want the LG G5 back. It had a(n):
- Removable battery
- SD card slot
- Infrared blaster
- FM Radio
- 3.5mm jack
- Compass
- Barometer
- Gyro
- NFC
- Fingerprint reader
And a ton of other stuff. Truly the best android phone ever made
Closest I can find now is the Ulefone line (no removable battery) but I have no idea if they’re decent phones or not.
Think I had a LG G3 I miss it. Wish they would of kept making phones.
Samsung xcover 6 pro
Had one of those, but it eventually died. Great phone.
3.5mm jack, Compass, Barometer, Gyro
These things are still in most modern phones.–
You’d be surprised at how many phones don’t have enough accelerometers to know their full orientation in space. Compass, NFC, and barometer are also not givens.
This thread is just a reminder of how terrible phones have become.
Strangely it’s usually only the cheap phones that include these premium features.
Strangely it’s usually only the cheap phones that include these premium features.
Where they gimp the screen, CPU, RAM, etc and then point to their low sales to claim people dont want things like a removable battery, SD card, headphone jack, etc or else they’d be buying them more. I hate it so much.
Yeah like improved cpu, GPU, and screen is expected so not even noteworthy. But everything else has felt like a regression in features.
Of how spoiled capitalism has become.
I liked the little led light at the top that would blink for notification
The smaller size phones (I hate these Phablets,) 3.5mm jack and back finger print reader, (although my Pixel 4a5G has them, it will be the last,) replaceable batteries, and selfie camera that doesn’t take up screen real estate.
no but genuinely this. My phone has the same screen size as my nintendo switch, and I’m unironically supposed to fit that in my pocket and have it be comfortable
I’m always shocked at how big the Nintendo switch was, and yet had such a small screen. I remember the first time I wondered, and held my galaxy s9 plus up to the screen and was like “holy shit it’s the same size - how is the switch so much bigger and looks so much worse?”
That being said, I do support the idea of multiple sizes of phones for people that want different things. Let there be iPhone 1 or 2 size phones for people that want something convenient and small, and give me a 10 incher because I like that and need it in my life :) Also, well-balanced, front-facing stereo speakers for fucks sake. Stop doing this weird one-forwards one-out stuff, Samsung, it sounds like shit.
I don’t work for them, I just happen to like the idea that there is a phone company making smaller sized phones, phone with physical keyboards, etc.
IB4 the comments complaining about android versions and such. Yes, I get it. Some of them are still running android 11, yes that is a security risk. Could be though that the people that want a small form factor phone also don’t want to do banking or other financially related things on it as well.
I feel like the two groups of people that just want to make phonecalls and texts, but who also just want a small phone, have a lot of overlap.
They are most likely a circle lol.
I’ve have Samsung phones for a long time, and I’ve come to accept that I suck at typing with a virtual keyboard. So I think my next phone will be a Titan 2, or hopefully a Titan 2 slim since the 2 seems to be pretty big.
Pixel 5 has a back fingerprint reader. Think it’s the last Pixel with it.
I miss that.
My 5 died randomly one day. The 9 under screen sensor works nice, heard the 6-8? light sensors were bad.
What’s wrong with the light sensor?
It’s the under-screen fingerprint sensor. It’s kind of flaky, and it shines the sensor area of the screen at what’s gotta be greater than normal max screen brightness. It’s blinding at night.
It’s also much less reliable than the back reader in my old pixel 2, though it’s gotten better with software updates. It was barely functional when the 6 first came out.
at what’s gotta be greater than normal max screen brightness.
I love misplacing my finger and getting flash-banged by my phone! 😮💨
Only the optical sensors do this. The newer ultrasonic fingerprint sensors are more accurate and don’t require any light/brightness changes.
So I’ve heard! My 6 has the light, and while I’ve gotten accustomed to it, I’m not a fan.
there’s this awful venn diagram of circles with no overlap, where you cant get a smallish phone that gets updates. Even asking for it to be well made is a pipe dream.
Add onto the desire for an unlockable bootloader and your only options are the phones designed to be thrown into a river after the job is complete.
I wish those unihertz devices were serious whatsoever. They ship on old android versions and get maybe one update in their life cycle.
Android is such a clusterfuck of an OS too. kernel/driver space is an absolute mess so every OEM has to basically ship their own kernel. Qualcomm is the devil and hides everything behind NDA’s so you can’t really write an open OS from the ground up on any hardware that can do any real processing.
Phablets, lmao. You invoke the ancient magicks.
I’m so far on the opposite side on this one though - I always have preferred large screen devices and today, I ADORE my folding pocket tablet most of all. 😍
