"Vladimir Putin is testing the waters on whether the U.S. is ready to engage in talks for ending Russia’s war in Ukraine,” Bloomberg reports.

“He’s put out feelers to the U.S. via indirect channels to signal he’s open to discussion, including potentially on future security arrangements for Ukraine, according to two people close to the Kremlin.”

“Hints of Russian openness to talks — even if disingenuous — could help sow division among Ukraine’s allies, isolating Kyiv and undermining President Volodymyr Zelenskiy’s efforts to win support for his own peace formula, which calls for full Russian withdrawal.”

  • The Snark Urge@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Previous cease fires have only been used to gather for another attempt. There’s also no reason to suppose they mind these casualties; their meat grinder tactics are intended to generate horrifying losses, specifically to demoralise.

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      5 months ago

      Yeah, the problem with that though is it cuts both ways.

      A lot of civilians- specifically widows and mothers and babuskas… want their husbands and sons and grandsons home; but they haven’t been told all that’s left is some burnt teeth and ash.

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        5 months ago

        I never said it was right, just that disregard for human life is a very traditional and continuing aspect of Russian military doctrine. It’s important to understand that Russia has been grim as fuck since… At least as far back as Ivan the Terrible.

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        Can I just say how much I love the fact that babushka took the place of grandma in that.

        All English till right there and it just fits so well

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          5 months ago

          it’s well known that you don’t mess with Babuskas.

          even more so than other varieties of grandma.

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      5 months ago

      The meat grinder worked back before the days of tiktok and the like. News would get back to Moscow minus the horrific death tolls, nowadays everyone can see what’s actually happening.

      This war ends with Putin dragged into the streets and his remains being hosed down into the sewer.

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        5 months ago

        I don’t know if microblogging is going to save the day here. Russia rarely does anything besides get worse.

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        5 months ago

        That would end the war, but Russia will quickly put another gangster in charge. Those people have forever been, and forever will be, unable to self-govern.