• shalafi@lemmy.world
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    21 hours ago

    The United States needs a department like ICE, every country does, but the current iteration is forever poisoned. People keep calling them Gestapo, but I think Brown Shirts is more on the nose.

    I’d like to point out how wrong I was about all this. For years I had commented saying that modern Brown Shorts would rise organically from local MAGA groups, then come together under a federal banner of some sort. I never foresaw the Trump admin short cutting that clumsy method and directly utilizing an existing federal department.

    • elbucho@lemmy.world
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      2 hours ago

      The United States needs a department like ICE

      No, they fucking don’t.

      What the US needs to do is fix its broken as fuck immigration system. That’s what’s creating the vast, VAST majority of the problem in the first place. For fuck’s sake, it can take decades to obtain citizenship, and that’s if you’re one of the lucky ones who doesn’t just get lost in limbo for reasons.

      America should be thanking the people who want to come here to go to school, to find work, or just to live the “American Dream” ™. Instead, we ended up with a whole bunch of nazis doing fucking nazi shit like tear gassing, hog tying, and frog marching 6 year olds into the back of an unmarked van.

      We don’t need ICE. What we need is way fewer nazis.

    • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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      17 hours ago

      The thing is we really dont need ICE. We need someone doing the job, but ICE is a 21st century development and any us government department winds up becoming impossible to reduce the power of. If you spread their duties out acrods multiple departments they have a more difficult time doing this shit

    • lemonskate@lemmy.world
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      17 hours ago

      Yes, ICE, the 22 year old agency is definitely something the US can’t do without. Certainly didn’t manage fine without it for the vast majority of our history as a country. Fucking hell.