The United States is expected to be the only one out of 184 countries to see foreign visitor spending fall in 2025, according to the World Travel and Tourism Council.
  • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
    88·
    22 days ago

    Meanwhile, Taco is literally attacking the 4th largest economy in the world and yammering on about tariffs again.

    I just don’t know how the market is still (relatively) up. I think when the crash does come, it’s going to be so rough.

  • solsangraal@lemmy.zipEnglish
    70·
    22 days ago

    pretty sure a majority of small (and large tbh) business owners who rely on tourism voted for exactly all the bullshit going on right now. they can go fuck themselves

      • Jesus@lemmy.world
        10·
        22 days ago

        I don’t know about 100%. I doubt the companies that do a lot of manufacturing in China were big on Trump… even if they tried to buy him off by donating to his inauguration.

        His trade policies were always going to be bad for business.

        • jj4211@lemmy.world
          6·
          22 days ago

          Bad for business, but perhaps not as bad for the rich business owners that can capitalize on the market chaos a bit without even pretending to contribute to actual productivity.

          • Jesus@lemmy.world
            2·
            22 days ago

            I guess. But the people who benefitted the most on that were loyalists who supported the grift.

            I bet a lot of the rich voted for him, but you’re always going to have the Mark Cubans and Tim Cooks of the country. People that are pretty clearly giving more money to democratic side of the aisle.

            • jj4211@lemmy.world
              1·
              22 days ago

              True enough, there are some rich people that aren’t onboard with it, but there’s just room for some other rich people to suceed even as their business suffers.

              And then double dip on a recovery.

              But certainly, there’s room for both, so that’s why it’s not quite as mind numbingly stupid that some of the billionaires are on board.

  • selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works
    61·
    22 days ago

    Why the fuck anyone want to come here right now? Dick-tator Dipstick running the show with his mushroom-fellating moron brigade cheering him on as if he wasn’t shitting his pants and reading at a third grade level…

    Selling off our public lands-- you know, the shit people want to see when they come here…

    Getting arrested for coming here AS A TOURIST and potentially being thrown in a fucking concentration camp…

    Everything is way too expensive and untrustworthy

  • Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz
    39·
    22 days ago

    Even if I wanted to visit the states. Can I risk having my holiday ruined and the money I’d lose if I was randomly turned away at the border?

    It’s not even safe to transit the states at the moment.

    • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.caEnglish
      9·
      22 days ago

      If you got into the country, what’s to stop ICE from picking you up and sending you to a prison in another country?

    • billwashere@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      22 days ago

      As an American even I don’t want to leave because I’m very critical of this administration and god forbid they’d somehow connect me with my online persona. I just don’t want the pain they could cause. I don’t “think” they could deport me (50s very white male) but who the fuck knows at this point. Gravy seals that are cosplaying as some military elite in their tacticool gear are just snatching people off of the street.

      • Burnoutdv@feddit.orgEnglish
        2·
        21 days ago

        That’s the beauty of not having duo process, your rights and citizenship don’t matter at all Because you never get to the point to be able to prove it, you just disappear

    • ameancow@lemmy.worldEnglish
      34·
      22 days ago

      The reality is this:

      They are accosting and hassling/turning away people who aren’t white. And I see pushback on this in the weirdest forms, people saying how most immigration officers are hispanic or black also, etc. That does not matter. This is entirely superficial and ordered by higher-ups and designed to drive up hate and racial tension so we don’t unify. If you’re not white, you face significant chances of being hassled at immigration but there are still thousands and thousands of people passing in and out of the country daily, so it’s not THAT high of a chance.

      As for transit across the states? Outside of some real backwater sundown towns in the deep south, there is a massive cognitive bias at work in the USA that works in two directions.

      I can promise you that you can be brown, asian, hispanic, purple with polka-dots and could most likely bicycle across the entire country and you will be treated with kindness and respect and people will offer to take you into their homes across the country.

      The weird disconnect that people are having a hard time digesting is that some of these same people will go online and scream about how immigrants are ruining our country and that we need to start a race war.

      We don’t live in a coherent reality in the USA anymore. The media world, including the internet and places like reddit and lemmy and facebook and twitter reflect a weird “mirror universe” where people are following an entirely different set of feelings.

      We are in a new world of cognitive dissonance and I fully understand how off-putting that is and I recommend not visiting the country for that reason alone. Don’t give this country tourism money as long as this administration remains in control.

      • CatDogL0ver@lemmy.world
        5·
        22 days ago

        Most people don’t have problems but we are shocked to hear Canadians and Australians were turned back because they spoke out against our regime government.

        It was unheard off. Freedom of speech? Gone. 🗽, diminished.

        • ameancow@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          20 days ago

          I guess because I’ve witnessed authoritarian takeovers of other countries this detail didn’t even phase me, we should have expected it. There are a large number of places in the world where you will get turned away or worse for your beliefs if you’re outspoken. Americans’ deluded belief broadly that we had “free speech” was always a crutch people would use to justify their hate but was rarely used for actual social change.

  • MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world
    35·
    22 days ago

    The Trump Regime has made it widely known that absolutely no one is safe visiting the United States. They’ve made travel by Americans, to American destinations questionable, based on ICE antics.

    Does America want a healthy tourism industry? Then they’d better get busy smashing fascism.

    As it stands, it is simply not advisable to travel to the United States.

    • BeBopaLula@piefed.caEnglish
      17·
      22 days ago

      “They’ve made travel by Americans, to American destinations questionable, based on ICE antics.” I think the appropriate word instead of antics is atrocities.

    • NABDad@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10·
      22 days ago

      The Trump Regime has made it widely known that absolutely no one is safe visiting in the United States.

      FTFY

  • rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works
    31·
    21 days ago

    You’re literally imprisoning tourists for the most minor shit, you silly dickheads. Of course that’s going to cost you money.

  • DarkFuture@lemmy.worldEnglish
    311·
    21 days ago

    You mean Trump is bad for business?

    Which means all those people saying he’d run it like a business are…stupid?

    • Bytemeister@lemmy.worldEnglish
      20·
      21 days ago

      He is running it like a business, problem is, he runs most of his businesses straight into the ground.

    • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      12·
      21 days ago

      Well, the idea of running a Constitutional republic “like a business” is stupid for a whole lot of reasons, but having Taco run it like one of his “businesses” is…next-level stupid.

  • CalipherJones@lemmy.worldEnglish
    25·
    22 days ago

    No idea why a European would ever want to come here. The travel options there are much better and cheaper. Oh and you won’t get thrown into a foreign prison.

    • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
      171·
      22 days ago

      Throwing aside the current administration… There’s so much to see in the US. All the national parks and other sights. It’s a roadtripper’s dream. One of the most diverse countries as far as landscape and climate is concerned. We have Disneyland in Europe (Paris), but there’s Disney World in Florida which is way bigger (never been to either, not THAT big of a fan myself, but I know there’s loads of Disney fans). NYC, LA and SF are all great cities to visit I hear, though I’ve only been to NYC (lots of fun - there’s so much to discover just by walking around)

      Now as a foreigner I’m slightly scared of the current admin despite being pasty white, so I’m not going to visit again anytime soon. But one day I would like to come back for sure. Until then… I do still have a LOT of Europe to discover as well, I’ve only spent any real time in my neighboring countries, others I’ve visited very briefly.

      • skozzii@lemmy.ca
        5·
        21 days ago

        All those national parks are on the chopping block too now. Unless major changes happen it won’t be worth visiting in 10 years.

      • Hanrahan@slrpnk.netEnglish
        3·
        21 days ago

        Throwing aside the current administration…

        That’s not true, I noped out after they want pants on head insane after 9/11, you’re just seeing that amped up now. People just normalised it as they will this.

        I spent quite a bit of time there and lived their briefly early this century but havent been back since.

        There’s so much to see in the US.

        Agreed but the worlds big place and lots to see

        It’s a roadtripper’s dream.

        Or nightmare because you’re forced to use a car, train travel is laughable and walkabilty is ridiculous in most places.

        But to be fair for environmental and carbon emission reasons I don’t fly anymore and try not to drive unless it’s essential.

      • Javi@feddit.ukEnglish
        2·
        21 days ago

        Slightly off topic, but If you have the time to travel; may I suggest looking into Interrail if you’re not already aware of it. An interrail pass would be the European equivalent to an american road trip imo.

        One train ticket helped me cover places like Portugal, Spain, and Italy, all the way through to Switzerland and onto Hungary, Poland etc and back home all over the course of two weeks.

        I was backpacking solo, so just looked up hostels in whatever city i ended up in on the day. But you could just as easily use it to plan a family itinerary. The actual ticket lasts a lot longer than a fortnight too; I’m just a slave to the machine and couldn’t get more time off.

        • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
          2·
          21 days ago

          I will once they finally build rail baltica lol, otherwise I’d need to fly anyway, or drive which makes luggage more convenient

    • BassTurd@lemmy.world
      4·
      22 days ago

      Aside from politics, the US has a ton to offer for someone that wants to experience the world. The Rockies, Appalachian trail, Great plains, deserts, huge rivers and lakes, and a bunch of other natural beauties. Not that mountains and bodies of water don’t exist elsewhere, but when it comes to nature, there’s something for anyone that likes being out doors.

      From a tourist side of things, places like Disney World, Universal, Las Vegas, New York City, and others just don’t have the same thing elsewhere. I’m more into the nature side, but lot’s of people really enjoy the big cities and amusement parks. The Rockies also offer some of the best snowboarding and skiing in the world, and there’s only 1 Appalachian trail.

      Too bad politics makes all of that less safe for foreigners and is actively enshitifying nature.

    • Retrograde@lemmy.world
      42·
      22 days ago

      I had a Finnish friend visit me in LA a few months ago and he had an absolute blast. There are still plenty good people and things to do and see in the US.

  • BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works
    23·
    21 days ago

    Tourism is down? No shit!

    I’m in a situation where I might have to travel with a group of students, and big boss is dead set on the US. We’re talking overtime, plane tickets, car rental, hotel, and a per diem. But still I’m resigning before I’ll go to the US right now. If ICE or CBP sees 10% of the stuff I’ve said about TACO, and politics in general, online, I’d be lucky to just get shipped home.

  • Furbag@lemmy.world
    22·
    21 days ago

    Gee, I wonder why? Perhaps xenophobia and open hostility towards foreigners isn’t good for the tourism industry? Who could have possibly foreseen this outcome? 🤔🙄

    I expect this trend to continue if the federal government moves forward with it’s plan to charge foreigners more money to visit national parks. One of the objectively best things about our country is our vast natural beauty protected by the federal government in perpetuity, and the national parks system is one of the few institutions that turns a profit every year and we still have the dumbass-in-chief trying to fuck that up too.