• CalipherJones@lemmy.world
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    No idea why a European would ever want to come here. The travel options there are much better and cheaper. Oh and you won’t get thrown into a foreign prison.

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      Throwing aside the current administration… There’s so much to see in the US. All the national parks and other sights. It’s a roadtripper’s dream. One of the most diverse countries as far as landscape and climate is concerned. We have Disneyland in Europe (Paris), but there’s Disney World in Florida which is way bigger (never been to either, not THAT big of a fan myself, but I know there’s loads of Disney fans). NYC, LA and SF are all great cities to visit I hear, though I’ve only been to NYC (lots of fun - there’s so much to discover just by walking around)

      Now as a foreigner I’m slightly scared of the current admin despite being pasty white, so I’m not going to visit again anytime soon. But one day I would like to come back for sure. Until then… I do still have a LOT of Europe to discover as well, I’ve only spent any real time in my neighboring countries, others I’ve visited very briefly.

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        Slightly off topic, but If you have the time to travel; may I suggest looking into Interrail if you’re not already aware of it. An interrail pass would be the European equivalent to an american road trip imo.

        One train ticket helped me cover places like Portugal, Spain, and Italy, all the way through to Switzerland and onto Hungary, Poland etc and back home all over the course of two weeks.

        I was backpacking solo, so just looked up hostels in whatever city i ended up in on the day. But you could just as easily use it to plan a family itinerary. The actual ticket lasts a lot longer than a fortnight too; I’m just a slave to the machine and couldn’t get more time off.

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      Aside from politics, the US has a ton to offer for someone that wants to experience the world. The Rockies, Appalachian trail, Great plains, deserts, huge rivers and lakes, and a bunch of other natural beauties. Not that mountains and bodies of water don’t exist elsewhere, but when it comes to nature, there’s something for anyone that likes being out doors.

      From a tourist side of things, places like Disney World, Universal, Las Vegas, New York City, and others just don’t have the same thing elsewhere. I’m more into the nature side, but lot’s of people really enjoy the big cities and amusement parks. The Rockies also offer some of the best snowboarding and skiing in the world, and there’s only 1 Appalachian trail.

      Too bad politics makes all of that less safe for foreigners and is actively enshitifying nature.

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      I had a Finnish friend visit me in LA a few months ago and he had an absolute blast. There are still plenty good people and things to do and see in the US.

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        I live in the US and I still haven’t visited LA. The US is fun but right now we are just “not cool”.

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    It is risky to come here. You anything besides English and you could be having to deal with ICE and get kidnapped.

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    5 hours ago

    Anecdotal: traveling to the smoky mountains and rented some bicycles. Owner said rentals are down 30% compared to this time last year.

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    Even if I wanted to visit the states. Can I risk having my holiday ruined and the money I’d lose if I was randomly turned away at the border?

    It’s not even safe to transit the states at the moment.

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      As an American even I don’t want to leave because I’m very critical of this administration and god forbid they’d somehow connect me with my online persona. I just don’t want the pain they could cause. I don’t “think” they could deport me (50s very white male) but who the fuck knows at this point. Gravy seals that are cosplaying as some military elite in their tacticool gear are just snatching people off of the street.

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      The reality is this:

      They are accosting and hassling/turning away people who aren’t white. And I see pushback on this in the weirdest forms, people saying how most immigration officers are hispanic or black also, etc. That does not matter. This is entirely superficial and ordered by higher-ups and designed to drive up hate and racial tension so we don’t unify. If you’re not white, you face significant chances of being hassled at immigration but there are still thousands and thousands of people passing in and out of the country daily, so it’s not THAT high of a chance.

      As for transit across the states? Outside of some real backwater sundown towns in the deep south, there is a massive cognitive bias at work in the USA that works in two directions.

      I can promise you that you can be brown, asian, hispanic, purple with polka-dots and could most likely bicycle across the entire country and you will be treated with kindness and respect and people will offer to take you into their homes across the country.

      The weird disconnect that people are having a hard time digesting is that some of these same people will go online and scream about how immigrants are ruining our country and that we need to start a race war.

      We don’t live in a coherent reality in the USA anymore. The media world, including the internet and places like reddit and lemmy and facebook and twitter reflect a weird “mirror universe” where people are following an entirely different set of feelings.

      We are in a new world of cognitive dissonance and I fully understand how off-putting that is and I recommend not visiting the country for that reason alone. Don’t give this country tourism money as long as this administration remains in control.

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        Most people don’t have problems but we are shocked to hear Canadians and Australians were turned back because they spoke out against our regime government.

        It was unheard off. Freedom of speech? Gone. 🗽, diminished.

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      4 hours ago

      If you got into the country, what’s to stop ICE from picking you up and sending you to a prison in another country?

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    More so for people with families. Individuals might be prepared to risk it but no one with kids is likely to.

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    Why the fuck anyone want to come here right now? Dick-tator Dipstick running the show with his mushroom-fellating moron brigade cheering him on as if he wasn’t shitting his pants and reading at a third grade level…

    Selling off our public lands-- you know, the shit people want to see when they come here…

    Getting arrested for coming here AS A TOURIST and potentially being thrown in a fucking concentration camp…

    Everything is way too expensive and untrustworthy

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    Hoping my flight to visit the US this fall has empty seats.

    (I’m a US citizen who has not been back to the states for over 5 years. Going to visit family and meet 2 of my sister’s children.)

    P.S. it feels like I need this disclaimer to explain why I would go there.

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      You might be in luck, I just rode the AA56 Mia - Heathrow and there were more than a couple rows of seats with one lucky guy. Seats open here and there as well, not a packed flight to the point where overhead bins who are usually crammed were open and some still could fit stuff.

      First time in about 10 years traveling I’ve seen this.

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        I’ve been lucky with this particular flight before having the entire row, but it’s been years and I’m doing a different airline this time, so hopefully it plays out the same way.

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      By then, ypud better delete all your social media post just to make sure you dont lose your citizenship over some random like of a trump meme

    • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldOP
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      P.S. it feels like I need this disclaimer to explain why I would go there.

      Believe me, I understand. And I’m sure a lot of other people do, too.

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      P.S. it feels like I need this disclaimer to explain why I would go there.

      You did. I live here and my reaction to your post was l, “Why the fuck would you willingly come here?”

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    21 hours ago

    Meanwhile, Taco is literally attacking the 4th largest economy in the world and yammering on about tariffs again.

    I just don’t know how the market is still (relatively) up. I think when the crash does come, it’s going to be so rough.

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    pretty sure a majority of small (and large tbh) business owners who rely on tourism voted for exactly all the bullshit going on right now. they can go fuck themselves

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        I don’t know about 100%. I doubt the companies that do a lot of manufacturing in China were big on Trump… even if they tried to buy him off by donating to his inauguration.

        His trade policies were always going to be bad for business.

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          Bad for business, but perhaps not as bad for the rich business owners that can capitalize on the market chaos a bit without even pretending to contribute to actual productivity.

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            I guess. But the people who benefitted the most on that were loyalists who supported the grift.

            I bet a lot of the rich voted for him, but you’re always going to have the Mark Cubans and Tim Cooks of the country. People that are pretty clearly giving more money to democratic side of the aisle.

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              True enough, there are some rich people that aren’t onboard with it, but there’s just room for some other rich people to suceed even as their business suffers.

              And then double dip on a recovery.

              But certainly, there’s room for both, so that’s why it’s not quite as mind numbingly stupid that some of the billionaires are on board.

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    They arbitrarily imprison tourists and then are surprised nobody wants to risk being imprisoned