• nebulaone@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    Obesity is a curable disease that people are self responsible for. Drug addicts are shamed and no one cares. Even peoples height (which they have zero control over) is shamed and no one bats an eye. Im not saying you should be rude to overweight people, but there are ridiculous double standards.

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      Obesity is responsible for many dying much earlier than the normal life span. Though many here want to deny it. If you care about a person who is obese you wouldn’t tell them you’re fine and no need to lose weight. BUT if you encounter obese people you should never say anything about their appearance. And no smirks or dirty looks either. You have no idea what is going on in their life that got them to this point. The cruelest thing is supporting an obese person by telling them it’s just fine. It’s no different then telling an obviously anorexic person that they look great and aren’t too skinny

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        I never said it made it okay. What you are doing is straw man rhetoric, a manipulative strategy to discredit someone.

        Sowas muss doch nicht sein.

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      I don’t shame addicts or small or large people either. I only shame those, who find it funny to shame others.

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        Another point I want to make is that body positivity is evil. Telling obese people they are healthy and should feel good about it should be a crime. Are these body positivity people going to cheer on someones first diabetic amputation?

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      counterpoint, fat shaming exists and is just as prevalent (probably more so) than heigh shaming. Another note: The countries with the highest amount of obesity are also the countries with the least amount of regulation and taxes on food processing. Just the same how the countries with the highest rates of drug problems are the ones who don’t focus on rehabilitation and prevention as much as criminalization.

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        Look, most people know that eating 50 burgers isn’t healthy, so stop putting the blame on others.

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          You genuinely think that a majority of obese people are obese because they eat large amounts of food at a time, and not due to the large amounts of trans-fats, sodium and corn syrup used in processed foods? Sounds to me like you’ve never been poor honestly. Never been in a country where natural food is expensive and hard to come by. Consider yourself blessed and keep being ignorant if you so please.

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            No need to get emotional and personal. I would love to see a source on how vegetables are more expensive than junk food and I’ll gladly change my mind.

            Edit: Alternatively you can just downvote my comments and leave. That’ll show me.

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              No ones getting emotional, however saying that phrase is a common tactic of people who are arguing in bad faith.

              However, I’ll entertain your “BUT- BUY SOURCE? SOURCE ? PEER-REVIEWD SOURCE PL0X” since you clearly don’t know how to use a search engine.

              https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9967271/

              Over the three years since 2019, the cost of food and drinks has escalated, particularly in the most recent year, with the prices of healthy foods and drinks increasing at almost double the rate of increase in prices of unhealthy items.

              https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/27/healthy-foods-are-often-more-expensive-heres-why.html

              “The data very clearly says, there is this fixed high cost for fresh fruit and vegetable, which is not there for other products,” Thijs Van Rens, one of the authors of the Warwick study told CNBC

              https://extension.usu.edu/nutrition/research/does-healthy-eating-cost-more

              A recent study found that following the MyPlate Dietary Guidelines would cost a family of four between $1,000-$1,200 a month ($12,000.00-$14,400 annually) depending on the age of the family members and the percentage of fruits and vegetables that were fresh, frozen, and canned (Mulik & Haynes-Maslow, 2017). For a comparison, the average middle income family in the United States spends roughly $6,224 on food each year with the average low income family spending even less at roughly $3,862 per year (USDA, 2017). With this information in mind, following these recommendations may not be feasible for the typical family.

              And just for good measure let’s throw it back to you. I would love to see a source on how junk food is more expensive than vegetables in countries where obesity is an epidemic. That means no countries that actually tax processed foods to make the healthier option more affordable.

              Edit: and you think Im not going to go out and find the sources? Dumbass.