Did you even see the last 2 seasons? They actually really confronted those issues and outright said that they weren’t really the good guys, the show tackled multiple times that the system is completely broken. I get if it was Law and Order being mad, but man you’re mad at the only cop show I’ve ever seen acknowledging and trying to tackle these issues. I mean, that’s literally why they made the captain gay and black, and that’s just one example.
You just listed the exact reasons the show is copaganda.
American Police are not lovable goofballs full of historically oppressed minorities realizing they are the bad guys. They are not “tackling issues”, they are lampshading and white washing them. Take the episode where Peralta meets the old detective from the book he loves on and is like
“Oh wow, old school police were racist… glad they aren’t anymore!”
And holt reminded him that it’s still a narrative that needed to be corrected. What about the one where Terry was profiled? Or holt was denied his promotion?
It’s pretty clear that you wouldn’t approve of any cop show that tries to work through these issues, so I’m not going to bother arguing with you. I think they did a great job, a lot of those episodes were very hard to watch because they were confronted with choosing a career under one pretended and then saw the reality. To do that with a comedic tone is incredibly hard, and I think they did well.
It’s pretty clear that you wouldn’t approve of any cop show that tries to work through these issues
Well I definitely wouldn’t say that, I’m a big fan of The Wire and We Own This City. All three are different flavors of copaganda, I just feel B99 lampshaded systemic issues instead of confronting them.
However I do agree that there isn’t use in arguging, and since we both made our opinions clear you go have a good day. ♥️
I’ll also not argue, not having to write valid arguments makes life a lot easier, but I want to chime in and say both brooklyn 99 and the wire are really good.
Newer SVU episodes also acknowledge the issues and often essentially have the message that they (the very specific SVU team) are the only non-terrible NYPD team even within their own universe. I can’t speak to the other law and orders as I haven’t seen them.
It is copaganda but they’re trying their best. SVU in particular seems pretty self aware that it’s pretty much fantasy at this point.
eh, woke cops is a liberal fantasy, to be sure. Brooklyn 99 was put in an awkward spot in 2020 and did its best to try and talk about them. I do think it was made with the best of intentions, and the cop stuff is mostly like, a parody of cop stuff tropes, rather than a fetishization of the cops themselves (like, say, Law and Order.) Maybe it doesn’t excuse it totally, but it is really worse than say, Parks and Rec’s cheery depiction of depiction of politics (especially when it goes national)?
Part of what convinces me of it’s earnestness is how focused it was on representation. Theres a story about how when Stefanie Beatriz found out Melissa Fumero got the part of Amy, she was convinced well, that was it, they cast the Latina woman. I forget if they made the part of Rosa for her or they liked her so much they just cast her as it, but like, the cast being so diverse stands out compared to some of the more whiter casts on this very list. (and Im not knocking any show on this list, honestly. I liked them all except for The Office, which I never watched, and whatever LN is)
The copaganda show … as chaotic good?
No. Heck no.
The Good Place is a much better fit.
Did you even see the last 2 seasons? They actually really confronted those issues and outright said that they weren’t really the good guys, the show tackled multiple times that the system is completely broken. I get if it was Law and Order being mad, but man you’re mad at the only cop show I’ve ever seen acknowledging and trying to tackle these issues. I mean, that’s literally why they made the captain gay and black, and that’s just one example.
You just listed the exact reasons the show is copaganda.
American Police are not lovable goofballs full of historically oppressed minorities realizing they are the bad guys. They are not “tackling issues”, they are lampshading and white washing them. Take the episode where Peralta meets the old detective from the book he loves on and is like
And holt reminded him that it’s still a narrative that needed to be corrected. What about the one where Terry was profiled? Or holt was denied his promotion?
It’s pretty clear that you wouldn’t approve of any cop show that tries to work through these issues, so I’m not going to bother arguing with you. I think they did a great job, a lot of those episodes were very hard to watch because they were confronted with choosing a career under one pretended and then saw the reality. To do that with a comedic tone is incredibly hard, and I think they did well.
Well I definitely wouldn’t say that, I’m a big fan of The Wire and We Own This City. All three are different flavors of copaganda, I just feel B99 lampshaded systemic issues instead of confronting them.
However I do agree that there isn’t use in arguging, and since we both made our opinions clear you go have a good day. ♥️
I’ll also not argue, not having to write valid arguments makes life a lot easier, but I want to chime in and say both brooklyn 99 and the wire are really good.
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Somehow I feel like there’s probably sarcasm on that sentence that doesn’t translate from spoken words to text.
I didn’t think it was possible to take that sentence literally, especially knowing it is from a comedy show about the police.
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Newer SVU episodes also acknowledge the issues and often essentially have the message that they (the very specific SVU team) are the only non-terrible NYPD team even within their own universe. I can’t speak to the other law and orders as I haven’t seen them.
It is copaganda but they’re trying their best. SVU in particular seems pretty self aware that it’s pretty much fantasy at this point.
eh, woke cops is a liberal fantasy, to be sure. Brooklyn 99 was put in an awkward spot in 2020 and did its best to try and talk about them. I do think it was made with the best of intentions, and the cop stuff is mostly like, a parody of cop stuff tropes, rather than a fetishization of the cops themselves (like, say, Law and Order.) Maybe it doesn’t excuse it totally, but it is really worse than say, Parks and Rec’s cheery depiction of depiction of politics (especially when it goes national)?
Part of what convinces me of it’s earnestness is how focused it was on representation. Theres a story about how when Stefanie Beatriz found out Melissa Fumero got the part of Amy, she was convinced well, that was it, they cast the Latina woman. I forget if they made the part of Rosa for her or they liked her so much they just cast her as it, but like, the cast being so diverse stands out compared to some of the more whiter casts on this very list. (and Im not knocking any show on this list, honestly. I liked them all except for The Office, which I never watched, and whatever LN is)
LN is Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt
Good call, totally agree
I’m here and I brought my pitchfork, what’s next?