• Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
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    15 hours ago

    Did you even see the last 2 seasons? They actually really confronted those issues and outright said that they weren’t really the good guys, the show tackled multiple times that the system is completely broken. I get if it was Law and Order being mad, but man you’re mad at the only cop show I’ve ever seen acknowledging and trying to tackle these issues. I mean, that’s literally why they made the captain gay and black, and that’s just one example.

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      Newer SVU episodes also acknowledge the issues and often essentially have the message that they (the very specific SVU team) are the only non-terrible NYPD team even within their own universe. I can’t speak to the other law and orders as I haven’t seen them.

      It is copaganda but they’re trying their best. SVU in particular seems pretty self aware that it’s pretty much fantasy at this point.

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      You just listed the exact reasons the show is copaganda.

      American Police are not lovable goofballs full of historically oppressed minorities realizing they are the bad guys. They are not “tackling issues”, they are lampshading and white washing them. Take the episode where Peralta meets the old detective from the book he loves on and is like

      Oh wow, old school police were racist… glad they aren’t anymore!

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        13 hours ago

        And holt reminded him that it’s still a narrative that needed to be corrected. What about the one where Terry was profiled? Or holt was denied his promotion?

        It’s pretty clear that you wouldn’t approve of any cop show that tries to work through these issues, so I’m not going to bother arguing with you. I think they did a great job, a lot of those episodes were very hard to watch because they were confronted with choosing a career under one pretended and then saw the reality. To do that with a comedic tone is incredibly hard, and I think they did well.

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          It’s pretty clear that you wouldn’t approve of any cop show that tries to work through these issues

          Well I definitely wouldn’t say that, I’m a big fan of The Wire and We Own This City. All three are different flavors of copaganda, I just feel B99 lampshaded systemic issues instead of confronting them.

          However I do agree that there isn’t use in arguging, and since we both made our opinions clear you go have a good day. ♥️

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        14 hours ago

        Oh wow, old school police were racists… glad they aren’t anymore!”

        Whoosh

        You

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        14 hours ago

        Somehow I feel like there’s probably sarcasm on that sentence that doesn’t translate from spoken words to text.

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          I didn’t think it was possible to take that sentence literally, especially knowing it is from a comedy show about the police.