• PugJesus@lemmy.world
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    Cool. Provide an example of a fully functional and prosperous- communistic society that doesn’t have some form or capitalism embedded into its socioeconomic fabric.

    Could you provide an example of a fully functional and prosperous capitalist society that doesn’t have some form of socialism embedded into its socioeconomic fabric?

    You’re asking for a ‘clean’ delineation that doesn’t exist in the real world, not just for the system you oppose, but also for the one you accept as ‘normal’ and functional.

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        No. Bust I’m not claiming such a thing exists either.

        You made that comment in response to:

        Humanist Democratic Socialism does. Communitarianism might also.

        … actually there’s probably forms of Distributism, that might. Just depends on whether we’re talking classic Communism with a one party centrally planned command economy (which is how a lot of people interpret the term still).

        Communism is just too broad an idea to agree to blindly, it could be referring to anything from a small scale communal farming co-op to a one party Authoritarian system.

        You’ll have to be more specific.

        I don’t see where that claims anything about the purity of any given system. In fact, all it does is ask for “What definition of communism are you using?”

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            I said capitalism is at least better than communism. Everything else is words written for me.

            To be precise, you demanded an example of a ‘pure’ system that the original commenter made no pretensions of supporting, and when called out, you objected that you weren’t the one claiming that such a system existed, implying that the other commenter was (which is demonstrably untrue).

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                My original point is: Communism isn’t automatically good just because capitalism isn’t.

                I absolutely did not get that meaning from your comment at the top of this thread, which was:

                No, but It beats communism any day of the week.

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                    Ok, but that seems like a non sequitur. I don’t understand how your metaphor is supposed to help translate “[capitalism] beats communism any day of the week” into “communism isn’t automatically good because capitalism isn’t”. Those are two completely different statements.

                    I think it would help me if you connected the dots more when you write things.