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    No, I mean after 9/11 when Obama continued Bush’s policies, including torturing people at black-sites, and bombing children overseas. I also mean when Biden sent Haitians off to torture camps in Guantanimo. I also mean when Biden spent a bunch of money expanding ICE, the border wall and our military.

    So yeah, if you keep ignoring when Democrats act evil, you won’t have any memory of them acting eveil. I suggest next time you look for data, before saying that you don’t remember any data.

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      If obama had stopped what bush had started he would have been obstructed, like he was with everything else. By the way, who killed Bin-Laden? Who actually got stuff done? Who expanded drilling for oil and nixing environmental protections? They are leagues apart and the only thing shouting “both shides are the shame” is doing is harming the country and turning us against each other. They aren’t the same.

      This is akin to civil war apologists saying it was about state rights and not human rights. Republicans would have smoked smokey the bear with a 12 gauge and then posed with his corpse; conservatives literally had their soldiers stacking iraqi’s like pyramids and electrocuting their genitals but no! “both sides are the same”

      im tired of it. Its not the same, no matter how much you white wash it.

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        Then he should have gone down fighting. He chose to grow the wars because his doners wanted him to. And if by “got stuff done” you mean “bombed kids”, or “tortured innocent people” or “sold out homeowners to protect the banks”, then I’d say it was indeed Obama. You know who also expanded drilling for oil? Biden

        I’d rather have politicians who try for what I want and fail, than politicans who are successfull at what I don’t want.

        Also, please point out where I said both sides are the same. It’s amazing to me how liberals constantly yell at me for things I do not believe, and haven’t said.

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          imagine being half white but the entire country calls you the first black prezzo. Imagine passing the affordable care act saving peoples lives from financial ruin and it was a republicans idea but it gets called Obama-care. Imagine old women calling you the N-word live on tv at Mccains rallies. Imagine bumper stickers with target sites over your face donning pickup trcuks. They are not the same my guy. Obama was up against the wall and did what he could to keep the nation together and did. And he not only did it but he did it with finesse. (and this isnt even mentioning the hate his wife got for daring to be african american) America is a racist country, desperately trying to downplay Obama’s legacy by equalizing him to trump a cheating loser who failed a university, casino (multiple) stiffs contractors, insults disabled people, deregulates environmental safety regulations, I could go on and on. They are NOT THE SAME.

          But go ahead, keep thinking both sides are the same, it makes you sound so smart! What a smart man you are!

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            Imagine being a 4 year old in the middle east. Imagine being blown up by the first half-black president! Do you know how amazing and progressive that must feel?

            Imaginge being tortured in a prison, with the approval of a person who had been called the N-word. Can you imagine how liberating that must be?

            Imagine losing your home, and watching the bank that owned your mortgage making billions of dollars in profit, but all, while a PoC was president. Can you imagine how great that must feel? To know that America was so forward thinking?

            I don’t really care about Obama’s race. I care that Obama screwed over the working class, and tortured and killed innocent people.

            Once again, I ask you to point out where I said that “they are the same”. You won’t, because I haven’t said that, because I don’t believe they are the same. Come back when you are done tilting at windmills

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              imagine being half-white but everyone treating you as black, imagine being obstructed in every law you try to enact, imagine being stonewalled in everything you do, imagine having to act the act or be impeached because once again, you are treated as black. Obama didn’t just have to do what he did, he was forced to or congress would filibuster/obstruct him. If he could have done half the things he wanted to we wouldn’t have been in iraq in the first place. Imagine if I punched someone in the face and then shoved you in front of me to end the fight. Imagine if I shot a innocent bystander and then urged you to get him first aid (oh and then torture him) that was Obama’s burden. You guys equating him with bush is moronic and takes a simpleton to not figure this out. Funnily enough he was the only one with the balls to get Bin-Laden, which was the only thing we needed to do not nation build like that moron bush wanted. Face it, Obama was great compared to his predecessors. (you wont, youre hatred of him wont allow it)

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                Stonewalled? He got a lot of support for blowing up innocent people. He wasn’t forced to do any of it, he was proud of it. If he wanted us out of Iraq, why didn’t he at least try? He had every opportunity to pull out, but proudly decided that more war was a good idea. At no point was congress forcing his hand in that.

                “you wont, youre hatred of him wont allow it”

                You are correct. My hatred of someone who bombed innocent people, screwed over the poor and working class, and expanded torture programs won’t allow me to say that he was a great president. If he wanted to be remembered as a great president, then maybe he shouldn’t have done those afwul, evil things.

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                    Nah, I don’t think so. I personally would rather that they arrested Bin Laden, and tried him in international courts, but I don’t see a problem with Obama killing him.