Budgeting is a very crucial part of your finances that will either break you or make you survive into another month. I have a very unpopular belief that says, if we take away the inflation issue, take away the wage issue and wage theft problem in America. I do believe that a lot of people are just simply bad with money.
And I’m no bank-level financial advisor or anything. I’ve been able to sustain all of my expenses without a hitch. I’ve paid my monthly loans on time, actually, pretty well in advance we’ll say because as soon as I see bills come up infront of me, I want them out of my face as soon as possible.
I always advise people when they’re out on their own and that’s to watch their numbers. Always total the amount you’ll be paid by the month, if it’s fixed income. Then, take all of the expenses you’re paying for by the month and total them up. Then, subtract the amount of your expenses from the total earning and you’ll figure how much you’ve got left to work with and how you’ll spend it if you want to. Saving is also key.
I’m not here to tell you what to do with your money. People get vehemently defensive when you point out the flaws of their spending habits, always treating it as a control issue when you’re just simply finding what’s wrong with it as they complain all of the time as to why they’re broke.
But all I will say in regards to that, is that, you really need to weigh your needs from your wants. Impulsivity is a bad driver in how it ruins our finances. I’ve done things where I’d be in a store and I’d take something I thought I’d really want to have and I’d carry it around for a while. Eventually over time, the feeling of wanting that thing, washes away because I know that it is simply an impulse issue.
I do get concerned when people lay out their budget plans. They spend triple the amount of groceries for just themselves. They actually even make budgets for bad money sinks like weed and alcohol. They never save anything, it’s always spending by the paycheck. You’ll never know if something will come up that’ll require a specific amount of money and you’ll find yourself in a tough situation where you are having to decide whether you want the lights on for another month or your car tire needs to be replaced because you’ve neglected it for so long that the threads are worn.
So this is just advocating for budgeting in general? Well let’s take it a step further…how do you (and others) go about building your budget?
I’m not seeing it yet - but YNAB is my current approach and I adore it.
I used to approach it in a project my income for the month and then assign that money into categories and into a savings pool. It was a good spreadsheet. I liked it.
But I find the envelope system that YNAB uses extremely powerful. You can set your categories (and it encourages you to remember expenses that only come up once in a while and budget for them on a monthly basis) and then you use the money you CURRENTLY have to fund them. You assign every dollar a job. Which means I can totally splurge on a fancy dinner… But it means I might be pulling money I assigned to my ski pass out (I sound ridiculously entitled, sorry… the blog posts they have give better perspectives if you are starting from high debt or low income). And I don’t want to pull that money because I’ve been setting it aside slowly for months… So I don’t splurge on drinks and dessert or I suggest street tacos or cooking at home for my friends instead.
Thanks for your follow up comment because this post is more like a YSK: You Should Learn How to Budget From Somewhere But Not This Post
Don’t worry, I’ll go first.
So I ultimately agree that the first thing to do is to recognize your known amounts. I start with a simple Excel spreadsheet and begin with known monthly income amounts first. Fixed or relatively consistent income gets it’s own row. Then I try to think about other sources of income that I make throughout the year (if any) and then average that to a monthly amount.
Next I start with all of my known fixed expenses. Mortgage/rent, car payments, insurance, etc. Next comes known variable expenses like gas, groceries, etc. I always average out the last few months and try to lean towards a higher amount to be conservative. Last, I try to always budget for unexpected expenses. Vehicle maintenance, child injury, unexpected bachelor party…you name it, but every month on average SOMETHING unexpected comes along.
What I’m left with, I divide by 30 days to figure out what I can spend on a daily basis. Some days I spend over, sometimes way under…but this gives me a good idea every day on how I should be doing for the month. I find it helps to have that “per day” thought in your mind at all times!
Now if I could just actually stick to a budget… I get spendy sometimes and my budget doesn’t like it.
I’m going to reply to your comment… But check out the philosophy of You Need A Budget. One of their keystones is roll with the punches. If you go on a spending spree, you just acknowledge it, cover those categories with money from somewhere else (or have it be on a credit card where it’ll warn you youre going into debt).
I’ve tried using YNAB but I eventually stopped setting it up. I think it was because it didn’t have bi weekly type transactions, or that might have been mint. Both I’ve tried using, both I just couldn’t. Maybe I’ll give it another shot.
Budgeting is one of those things that seems really obvious once you “get it”. And in this case, “getting it” means your income is above average.
Not necessarily. You can have a budget at any income level. It just might mean facing the fact that your expenses are higher than your income. No one says a budget can’t show you how much your going into debt instead of how much your saving. My partner was there through his college. It’s just depressing so you are less likely to do it. I don’t know if I would stick to it.
But I think knowing where your money is going and where it is coming from is a key step in motivating yourself to make a change… either to fight for other opportunities or to change spending habits. And it also gives you visibility into what differences it makes on a weekly or monthly or yearly basis.
I think making a budget for bad habits is a great thing. Better to know and be aware than not be.
I have a budget for weed and alcohol, like I do for everything else. I also have a budget for savings, charity, portfolio contributions, gifts, retirement contributions, emergency fund, and other “good” things.
Being a human is hard, no need to disparage an “unnecessary” pleasure budget.
I would TL;DR your post with really the idea that you must save and avoid debt. However you do it, budget or not, spending money or not, does not matter. You can be super frugal and save, or not be super frugal. You must save, though.
You actually gloss over saving and focus on budget, when really I see the budget as a means to the end of controlling your spending so that you can save.
If saving was not the ultimate goal, there really is no reason to budget in the first place.
All that said, I agree with a lot of what you’re saying. We’ve been using YNAB for about 5 yrs now and it’s been wonderful.
I’ve never been able to budget in the literal sense due to how utterly unpredictable my income is (artist sole proprietor kind of thing- don’t do it, kids!), and how wildly the structure of my months vary…but getting wise to tracking all incoming and outgoing transactions on my own spreadsheet has brought such peace of mind.
It came naturally after dealing with self employment income records, so it’s frankly silly that I never applied the same ideas to my personal finances.
If I could throw my little tidbit of advice onto the already great pile here: when it comes to expenses where you don’t know for sure the amount, always err on the side of overestimating. Then you can save any extra that was left.
this always feels like such loading screen advice to me, like yeah thanks game i’ll try not to spend more money than i have!
sure there are people who need to be told but 99% of people fully understand that not getting shot is what they’re supposed to be doing it’s just that the whole game is a constant barrage of bullets from every angle. My finances don’t run low because i’m wildly spending money on frivolities, it’s the endless grind of necessity and the endless uphill climb towards a stable life - the reality is budgeting is literally an impossible problem, it’s impossible to predict how any particular purchase will have an effect on future purchasing power or standard of life especially if you try and factor in social and psychological factors. Even a simple question like ‘what point is it financially sensible to replace the threads on your car tire?’ is endlessly complex from a budget perspective, maybe allocating that money differently would allow allow a more significant increase in earning potential or save a larger future cost so that it would be more sensible just to eat the larger car maintenance cost later - and this could be as complex an option as looking after your mental health by socialising with friends to help relieve the stress of studying, maybe a better grade results in a better job that comes with it’s own car… budgeting is an impossibly complex and chaotic muddle of equations so pretending it’s as simple as ‘just do a budget’ is infuriating.
Just adding in a couple thoughts… there are lots of apps for this or you can keep it simple with your own spreadsheet. I’ve used EveryDollar for like 6 years now, it’s gotten a little bloated but the core functionality is the same.
Budgeting sucks at first. It feels super restrictive, and it’s a little stressful. This goes away after like a month or two and you will feel the complete opposite. It feels like so much more freedom once you get the hang of it and you will feel very empowered controlling your money.
I had a buddy try it out, saw how much he was spending on weed, then gave up trying. What you should do is just factor in your spending on weed and work around it if you need to, or change habits if you’re ready. Budgeting doesn’t mean you have to change your spending habits… you likely will, but it’s more about being in control of your money.
For sure. The key to getting into budgeting is to base your budget off current spending rather than desired spending.
Setting a goal to budget and cut spending at the same time conflates the budgeting with “I can’t spend money anymore” feeling, and adds a hugely unnecessary, negative connotation to it.
This was a much more succinct way of saying what I wanted to say.
I have had two accounts for a while, when I get paid I leave an amount in the account with the regular payments set up to cover utilities and mortgage and then I copy over the rest to a different account that I know I can spaff up the wall.
Envelope style budgeting:)
My plan is to combine a big income with a healthy hatred for buying things. It’s working great so far, but I’ve hit the limit for what I can chuck into retirement funds so I’m not sure what I’ll do when the money number gets too big.
donate to food banks or sum shit
So I definitely have some privilege here in the form of not paying rent. But I’m able to live off my savings and being as frugal as possible while letting my investment account slowly grow and mostly come out net zero for the last 6 months. Pretty nice not having to work and just living as low-impact and low-cost as possible. Of course this isn’t possible for people who have unavoidable bills and payments but I still absolutely agree that many people could do better with saving and budgeting.
The Simple Path to Wealth book has an interesting approach about the savings part of the budget:
Spend less than you earn—invest the surplus—avoid debt
Try saving and investing 50% of your income. With no debt, this is perfectly doable.
The beauty of a high savings rate is twofold: You learn to live on less even as you have more to invest.
I also highly recommend reading it.
With no debt, this is perfectly doable
With no debt, no family and a high paying full time job
I think #2 is unrealistic for a lot of people… The other points aren’t bad.
budgeting is super easy though, just spend less than you deposit in your spend account.
done
Same thing with weight loss, just consume less calories than you spend.
Heehee. At least with money I can know exactly how I’m spending it. I hate the effort it takes to track calories and the level of associated uncertainty.
Yes, why even talk about these things?? /s
