The Peaceful LA Protests of June, 2025 worked. We’re all talking about it now. If the LA protests weren’t peaceful, we would have different talking points for this weekend’s protests and protesters would have been killed. This administration wants this.
YSK - That there is a lot of trolling and brigading starting to happen around the LA peaceful protests to start violence. Here is a roadmap from 2015 on how they do it.: https://sh.itjust.works/post/39873361
Also, this:
Nonviolent protests are twice as likely to succeed as armed conflicts – and those engaging a threshold of 3.5% of the population have never failed to bring about change.
In the lib’s mind, protesting is not a tool, it’s the goal on itself. Just show up, wave a little flag and the bad guys will magically change their mind like it’s a fucking movie.
I don’t entirely disapprove your position, but i feel like this is a really bad argument. First, because it’s only a boycott of one parade, when people get abducted and deported. Second because they only ‘plan’ or ‘say they’ll’ do it.
This does not feel like a victory at all, this feels like satisfying yourself on crumbs
Yes. The entire point of direct action is to have an immediate and noticeable effect.
A protest is meant to disrupt the status quo in such a way that the establishment is forced to meet demands or else we continue to bring things to a standstill.
If your protest is not disruptive of the status quo, it is being ignored.
This administration already called in the national guard for a peaceful protest. Do you think that it will stop here and the they will not continue to commit more and more violence against peaceful protestors until we reach a breaking point and have to start defending ourselves?
Or are we supposed to allow ourselves to become martyrs and die before we fight back against those that would see us dead.
False. The protestors stayed peaceful the police shot at the crowed with weapons that are called “less lethal” but have still killed people before and permanently disable people often.
People are already being killed by police/ice/this administration. If we open carry then the oppressors will die too, and each time one of them dies, they’ll think a bit harder before taking action against the population.
Nonviolent protests are twice as likely to succeed as armed conflicts
This is misleading. Nonviolent resistance is obviously going to be more likely to succeed because armed conflict only happens when the government digs in its heels after the nonviolent resistance. What? Did you want Syrians to nonviolently resist Assad’s Sarin gas?
Here we go again,
The Peaceful LA Protests of June, 2025 worked. We’re all talking about it now. If the LA protests weren’t peaceful, we would have different talking points for this weekend’s protests and protesters would have been killed. This administration wants this.
YSK - That there is a lot of trolling and brigading starting to happen around the LA peaceful protests to start violence. Here is a roadmap from 2015 on how they do it.: https://sh.itjust.works/post/39873361
Also, this:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/22/protest-trump-resistance-power
Especially with palintir spreading misinformation through reddit
You and I have different metrics for “success”
How did they work? ICE is still in my neighborhood snatching people up
They’re fucking brainwashed. They equate just protesting with some victory in their heads. No matter how small, every protest is some achievement
In the lib’s mind, protesting is not a tool, it’s the goal on itself. Just show up, wave a little flag and the bad guys will magically change their mind like it’s a fucking movie.
It’s all performative actions.
Are you libertarian?
Hmmmm, I wonder why…
Most GOP lawmakers plan to skip Trump’s big parade
Could it be from booing in their town halls and a huge nationwide protest?
I don’t entirely disapprove your position, but i feel like this is a really bad argument. First, because it’s only a boycott of one parade, when people get abducted and deported. Second because they only ‘plan’ or ‘say they’ll’ do it.
This does not feel like a victory at all, this feels like satisfying yourself on crumbs
Edit : making it gender neutral
So because there isn’t immediate visible change, they aren’t effective?
The need for immediate gratification works to the favor of the authoritarian.
Yes. The entire point of direct action is to have an immediate and noticeable effect.
A protest is meant to disrupt the status quo in such a way that the establishment is forced to meet demands or else we continue to bring things to a standstill.
If your protest is not disruptive of the status quo, it is being ignored.
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It’s also the same urge which draws people to authoritarianism.
This administration already called in the national guard for a peaceful protest. Do you think that it will stop here and the they will not continue to commit more and more violence against peaceful protestors until we reach a breaking point and have to start defending ourselves?
Or are we supposed to allow ourselves to become martyrs and die before we fight back against those that would see us dead.
It stayed peaceful. What do you think will happen if you open carry? Are you trying to get people killed?
False. The protestors stayed peaceful the police shot at the crowed with weapons that are called “less lethal” but have still killed people before and permanently disable people often.
Again
People are already being killed by police/ice/this administration. If we open carry then the oppressors will die too, and each time one of them dies, they’ll think a bit harder before taking action against the population.
This administration wants people not to resist them. Failing that people resisting them verbally but in no practical manner will do just fine.
This is misleading. Nonviolent resistance is obviously going to be more likely to succeed because armed conflict only happens when the government digs in its heels after the nonviolent resistance. What? Did you want Syrians to nonviolently resist Assad’s Sarin gas?
That’s not working. Just talking about it isn’t an accomplishment. Fuck