sauce: System Engineer

  • FIST_FILLET@lemmy.ml
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    5 months ago

    just “linux” in daily public speech is definitely the way to go branding-wise. no random pedestrian is gonna know what you’re talking about if you say GNU or Kubuntu or whatever (and they probably won’t know “Linux” either, but the chance is marginally higher)

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    5 months ago

    As I make my way through terrible news stories on Lemmy, this is the first thing to make me laugh out loud. Both because I understand the pedantry and because I spent so much of my life wishing I had a gf.

  • shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    5 months ago

    …What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

    Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

    There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!

    • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      So you are saying if I uninstall all the Windows apps on my PC and use Gnu tools instead, I can tell everyone I don’t run a Windows Operating System like the cool kids.

      :)

    • morrowind@lemmy.ml
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      5 months ago

      The main error is that Linux is not strictly speaking part of the GNU system—whose kernel is GNU Hurd. The version with Linux, we call “GNU/Linux.” It is OK to call it “GNU” when you want to be really short, but it is better to call it “GNU/Linux” so as to give Torvalds some credit.

      We don’t use the term “corelibs,” and I am not sure what that would mean, but GNU is much more than the specific packages we developed for it. I set out in 1983 to develop an operating system, calling it GNU, and that job required developing whichever important packages we could not find elsewhere.

  • Matriks404@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    I was that guy, but I gave up and just call it Linux, since there’s really no other name you can call it at that point. GNU/Linux is as correct as Systemd/Linux or Electron/Linux (for these quite a few VScode/Spotify/Discord/Other Electron app enjoyers).

    • gamer@lemm.ee
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      5 months ago

      I used to think like that, but now I’m on the fence since I’ve started working much more closely with packaging. Calling it “linux” is actually kind of harmful for adoption. Devs that claim their software works on Linux mislead people into thinking it works on any Linux distro, which is rarely true. Most of the time, those devs only test on Ubuntu and no other distro.

      Maybe when Snaps finally die out and Flatpak emerges as the one true standard for desktop apps, then that problem will go away once and for all. Until then, I think we should normalize distinguishing Ubuntu, Fedora, Arch, etc as separate “operating systems” instead of “distros”, which is an unnecessary and misleading term anyways.

  • Rhaedas@fedia.io
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    5 months ago

    What’s the point of having multitasking abilities if you don’t use them?

    • asudox@lemmy.asudox.devOP
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      5 months ago

      The manga? It’s called System Engineer, also known as SE.

      The meme, I don’t know. I just found it in my downloads directory.