The escalating feud between Trump and Elon Musk just went to the highest level when the former DOGE leader called for the impeachment of the sitting president.
That’s where you’re wrong. They both constantly rewrite the past in their own memories. Shit one takes massive doses of disassociatves and the other can’t be bothered to digest a single thought. They can make up and act like nothing ever happened and they’re both the greatest. To hold a grudge you need to be able to hold a coherent opinion on anything and not exist in a perpetual stream of consciousness.
Oh I’m not saying that they don’t engage in extreme attacks on who they consider their enemies. But Trump rapidly flips on who his enemy and who his friend is based on the situation. He’s had that relationship with most of the GOP. Without the staff I honestly don’t think he’d be able to keep it together. Sometimes he shifts based straight up on who he’s in the room with and how they’re treating him at that exact moment. What I’m trying to say is there’s no actual calculation or payback in his mind. It’s entirely binary and subject to rapid shifts. Classic black and white thinking/cluster b splitting.
I don’t understand. This was quite possibly the most predictable thing that could have happened. Trump has a 40 year history of stiffing creditors and vendors. There has never been anything transactional about him, he just does this same thing over and over. Like there’s a reason that people have been saying, “a Trump never pays his debts” since like 2015.
The knights Templar were the bank that kept the French crown in power, the crown was indebted to the monastic order. As that wasn’t ideal, went to the pope and had them excommunicated and rounded up on Friday the 13th.
He couldn’t swing that with the backing of twitter/Facebook
Like, obviously him trying it is a big concern, but he wouldn’t be able to pull it off. I’d be surprised if he could even hold onto DC after suspendng elections.
We’d almost certainly see elected Dems immediately relocate to somewhere like Cali, and when push comes to shove, the military would be a 50/50 split at best. Like, trump can put sycophants in top military leadership positions, but that’s not enough.
That’s the entire point of a chain of command. 10 different chances for someone to grow a spine and tell them to fuck off. All the way down to the guy holding the gun.
He’s be more likely to try and use red state national guards, he’s still have to filter, and ship them across the country so they’re not acting against their own neighbors
The logistics would be a nightmare even for a competent leader. This admin can not handle something so complicated. It would be a failure, but likely a bloody one.
You have high expectations. From what I have seen of the system lately they’d just allow it and nothing would happen. Maybe some protests but nothing big as that would be to inconvenient for people.
I have reason to, and not that you should just blindly believe me, but I’ve got a pretty good track record on predicting how shit shakes out.
Cancelling elections is a big line, and he just can’t count on the military.
Hell, Vance would almost certainly work against him.
There’s a long line of people who want to fill Trump’s void in 2028, and they won’t be happy if trump refuses to step down.
Like, it wouldn’t be a great thing to live thru. A lot of damage will be done and people will die. But trump just doesn’t have the juice for it without Musk’s money and willingness to spend.
Even other billionaires won’t light money on fire for trump like musk did.
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I kept seeing people saying that this is all performative and that they’re both in on it, but idk, I was raised by narcissists and this is basically the exact same fight playing out on the global stage that played out weekly in my childhood living room.
This is way, way too in depth to be an elaborately staged, intetional hyperreality performance.
These two just actually are this stupid, this self-centered, this insecure and ego driven.
If this is some kind of an act, it would require both of them to have been method acting at Daniel Day Lewis levels for about a decade with no breaks.
Its ‘performative’ in the sense of intentionally being catty, shit-disturbing, dramatic, old men acting like the cast of the Mean Girls… but it is not performative in the sense of ‘entirely staged to fool us dumb rubes.’
That being said, this all still does function as a grand distraction to any other person or kind of nefarious nonsense… but no, these two are having the messiest, most high stakes, most public breakup in probably the history of the world right now, and they are both totally genuine.
… It is also arguably the funniest way concievable for the American Empire / Era to end.
How in the fuck do you write a history book about this in 20 years?
… I don’t fucking know, but I do know I want Larry David to write a script for a ‘The Death of Stalin’ style movie about the last 9 months.
EDIT: Wait! Mel Brooks is still alive somefucking how, get in him in the writing room too!
Even if it was pretend to start with they’re both so sensitive and need to be right, it’ll turn into a real fight soon enough. But I agree, neither is clever enough to pretend this. For that you need professional wrestling level acting skills.
This is exactly like wrestling they have made Elon the heel. If contracts start being canceled maybe it’s real. Unless some unknown company gets the contract like space y.
This scenario is quite the best outcome. Two narcissists fighting each other, hopong for a homicide/suicide ❤️
It’s already happening…
Musk was the bank that got MAGA elected in places they’d pissed off voters too much to keep winning.
If musk and trump split, the Republicans in the house and Senate need both musks money and Trump’s cult. They can’t win with either alone.
They’re already past the point of no return, their egos are too big to make up.
That’s where you’re wrong. They both constantly rewrite the past in their own memories. Shit one takes massive doses of disassociatves and the other can’t be bothered to digest a single thought. They can make up and act like nothing ever happened and they’re both the greatest. To hold a grudge you need to be able to hold a coherent opinion on anything and not exist in a perpetual stream of consciousness.
Reasonable thinking, expecially when we talk about the two actual main persons in the country and all the people and responsibilities around them.
Narcissists surround themselves of yes people, let’s see if those guys has cleared the area properly.
While both are wildly irrational and one is downright mentally incompetent, if they have one thing in common it’s holding on to grudges.
Oh I’m not saying that they don’t engage in extreme attacks on who they consider their enemies. But Trump rapidly flips on who his enemy and who his friend is based on the situation. He’s had that relationship with most of the GOP. Without the staff I honestly don’t think he’d be able to keep it together. Sometimes he shifts based straight up on who he’s in the room with and how they’re treating him at that exact moment. What I’m trying to say is there’s no actual calculation or payback in his mind. It’s entirely binary and subject to rapid shifts. Classic black and white thinking/cluster b splitting.
I don’t understand. This was quite possibly the most predictable thing that could have happened. Trump has a 40 year history of stiffing creditors and vendors. There has never been anything transactional about him, he just does this same thing over and over. Like there’s a reason that people have been saying, “a Trump never pays his debts” since like 2015.
Trump has probably made enough money off illegal crypto bribes that he can afford to dump musk.
Yeah but he’s not gonna spend his own money.
The knights Templar were the bank that kept the French crown in power, the crown was indebted to the monastic order. As that wasn’t ideal, went to the pope and had them excommunicated and rounded up on Friday the 13th.
One of these men will go.
Or they need to abolish free elections before the midterms, arrest noncompliant judges and just have the Trump dynasty rule by decree.
He couldn’t swing that with the backing of twitter/Facebook
Like, obviously him trying it is a big concern, but he wouldn’t be able to pull it off. I’d be surprised if he could even hold onto DC after suspendng elections.
We’d almost certainly see elected Dems immediately relocate to somewhere like Cali, and when push comes to shove, the military would be a 50/50 split at best. Like, trump can put sycophants in top military leadership positions, but that’s not enough.
That’s the entire point of a chain of command. 10 different chances for someone to grow a spine and tell them to fuck off. All the way down to the guy holding the gun.
He’s be more likely to try and use red state national guards, he’s still have to filter, and ship them across the country so they’re not acting against their own neighbors
The logistics would be a nightmare even for a competent leader. This admin can not handle something so complicated. It would be a failure, but likely a bloody one.
You have high expectations. From what I have seen of the system lately they’d just allow it and nothing would happen. Maybe some protests but nothing big as that would be to inconvenient for people.
I have reason to, and not that you should just blindly believe me, but I’ve got a pretty good track record on predicting how shit shakes out.
Cancelling elections is a big line, and he just can’t count on the military.
Hell, Vance would almost certainly work against him.
There’s a long line of people who want to fill Trump’s void in 2028, and they won’t be happy if trump refuses to step down.
Like, it wouldn’t be a great thing to live thru. A lot of damage will be done and people will die. But trump just doesn’t have the juice for it without Musk’s money and willingness to spend.
Even other billionaires won’t light money on fire for trump like musk did.
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I kept seeing people saying that this is all performative and that they’re both in on it, but idk, I was raised by narcissists and this is basically the exact same fight playing out on the global stage that played out weekly in my childhood living room.
Yep, same, exactly.
This is way, way too in depth to be an elaborately staged, intetional hyperreality performance.
These two just actually are this stupid, this self-centered, this insecure and ego driven.
If this is some kind of an act, it would require both of them to have been method acting at Daniel Day Lewis levels for about a decade with no breaks.
Its ‘performative’ in the sense of intentionally being catty, shit-disturbing, dramatic, old men acting like the cast of the Mean Girls… but it is not performative in the sense of ‘entirely staged to fool us dumb rubes.’
That being said, this all still does function as a grand distraction to any other person or kind of nefarious nonsense… but no, these two are having the messiest, most high stakes, most public breakup in probably the history of the world right now, and they are both totally genuine.
… It is also arguably the funniest way concievable for the American Empire / Era to end.
How in the fuck do you write a history book about this in 20 years?
… I don’t fucking know, but I do know I want Larry David to write a script for a ‘The Death of Stalin’ style movie about the last 9 months.
EDIT: Wait! Mel Brooks is still alive somefucking how, get in him in the writing room too!
I think this might be lethal levels of irony even for him.
Even if it was pretend to start with they’re both so sensitive and need to be right, it’ll turn into a real fight soon enough. But I agree, neither is clever enough to pretend this. For that you need professional wrestling level acting skills.
This is exactly like wrestling they have made Elon the heel. If contracts start being canceled maybe it’s real. Unless some unknown company gets the contract like space y.
Neither one of them is able to pretend at this level. It is a real fight.
Alien vs. Predator.
Whoever loses, we win.
Nah, we are still stuck with whoever wins.
So what you’re saying is we need to revive the push for President Schwarzenegger
“Get in the (Air Force Two) Choppa!”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives?wprov=sfla1
One Big, Beautiful Breakup.
Oh I bet he’ll pay in some way to have trump challenged for being mentally unfit, I think that’s part of the constitution