Hating addicts for being addicts, is a bad thing. They’re still people, with full lives, and can be wonderful humans. They may also need help, or they may choose not to get help. The point being, we shouldn’t judge people based on whether or not they’re an addict.
Noone said they were hating him for his drug use. Being a drug addict is a bad thing by definition. If it wasnt a negative for the person we wouldnt call it addiction.
Unfortunately drug addicts are “judged” because they are simply riskier to associate with than a sober person. I’m not sure how many sober people are actually left though, and most people won’t disclose their drug addictions.
It expanded my understanding of their socioeconomic plight, psychological suffering, and physiological vicious cycle, exacerbated by ineffective draconian punitive measures implemented by government. It’s a truly excellent and compassionate book, I found the discussion on brain chemistry fascinating as well, and should be easy enough to find with Libby or at a local library.
Where did you get the idea I hate/judge addicts? You made it up. You’re willing to wash away the ugliness that the disease of addiction is, and that’s a pretty bad thing to do.
I think they were ignoring the nuance which is that a good person could be a victim of a bad thing without it being their fault. Otherwise why say “it’s not a bad thing”?
Yes exactly. “It’s not a bad thing” to me sounds like “hey man drugs are cool (which I either believe or am so desperate to sound accepting, I don’t care how it comes across)”
They literally said “He’s just a drug addict (not a bad thing…)” which is very different from “It’s not a bad thing”. So in this context it is you putting words into their mouth. You read their comments wrong and applied your own meaning to it.
I’ll clarify for everyone who’s gotten this far down then and make it as straightforward as possible:
Musk should be hated for the things he’s done and the people he’s hurt in the world, not for his illicit drug use.
People wanting to conflate and jump on his drug use as if that explains everything awful he’s been doing are feeding into the idea that drugs make everyone crazy Nazi assholes somehow. That’s just not true. Drug use is awful for the people it affects and hurts, but it doesn’t reduce the value of a life, or turn people into Nazi assholes unless they were like that way all along.
We should call out Musk’s terrible ideals, his upbringing, his roots, his exploitation of billions of people in the world, his lack of empathy, his fraud, his market manipulation, his fucked up family views, his shitty fathering, etc. etc.
His drug use is only exacerbating that. It’s not the cause. The cause is he’s a truly fucking awful person who should stand trial for his crimes against humanity.
His abuse of Ketamine, E, Adderall, etc. is unrelated. We should not conflate those.
Hating addicts for being addicts, is a bad thing. They’re still people, with full lives, and can be wonderful humans. They may also need help, or they may choose not to get help. The point being, we shouldn’t judge people based on whether or not they’re an addict.
Noone said they were hating him for his drug use. Being a drug addict is a bad thing by definition. If it wasnt a negative for the person we wouldnt call it addiction.
Unfortunately drug addicts are “judged” because they are simply riskier to associate with than a sober person. I’m not sure how many sober people are actually left though, and most people won’t disclose their drug addictions.
In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts by Gabor Mate was pivotal in reframing my perspective on addiction and addicts.
Sorry, could you summarize how?
It expanded my understanding of their socioeconomic plight, psychological suffering, and physiological vicious cycle, exacerbated by ineffective draconian punitive measures implemented by government. It’s a truly excellent and compassionate book, I found the discussion on brain chemistry fascinating as well, and should be easy enough to find with Libby or at a local library.
This ideology started in the 60s and 70s with moral panics against minorities. Drug Addicts are inhumane in our society and well were pathetic.
Where did you get the idea I hate/judge addicts? You made it up. You’re willing to wash away the ugliness that the disease of addiction is, and that’s a pretty bad thing to do.
I don’t believe they were projecting, so much as clarifying their original position.
Correct
I think they were ignoring the nuance which is that a good person could be a victim of a bad thing without it being their fault. Otherwise why say “it’s not a bad thing”?
I think you hit the nail on the head here. Addiction is the bad thing. Being an addict (victim) is not.
Yes exactly. “It’s not a bad thing” to me sounds like “hey man drugs are cool (which I either believe or am so desperate to sound accepting, I don’t care how it comes across)”
They literally said “He’s just a drug addict (not a bad thing…)” which is very different from “It’s not a bad thing”. So in this context it is you putting words into their mouth. You read their comments wrong and applied your own meaning to it.
They worded something weirdly, at best. But get all upset about it.
I’ll clarify for everyone who’s gotten this far down then and make it as straightforward as possible:
Musk should be hated for the things he’s done and the people he’s hurt in the world, not for his illicit drug use.
People wanting to conflate and jump on his drug use as if that explains everything awful he’s been doing are feeding into the idea that drugs make everyone crazy Nazi assholes somehow. That’s just not true. Drug use is awful for the people it affects and hurts, but it doesn’t reduce the value of a life, or turn people into Nazi assholes unless they were like that way all along.
We should call out Musk’s terrible ideals, his upbringing, his roots, his exploitation of billions of people in the world, his lack of empathy, his fraud, his market manipulation, his fucked up family views, his shitty fathering, etc. etc.
His drug use is only exacerbating that. It’s not the cause. The cause is he’s a truly fucking awful person who should stand trial for his crimes against humanity.
His abuse of Ketamine, E, Adderall, etc. is unrelated. We should not conflate those.