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Rips, slams, shreds, incinerates… I’m sick of these headlines.
Couldn’t agree more. On YouTube I’m particularly sick of MeidasTouch, not just because of this exploitative use of headlines but because their sponsors are usually equally bad gimmicks.
Seriously, it’s just right-wing exploitative language. And yet, it’s the same left-leaning outlets repeating it again and again.
I wish there were more bold takedowns and real accountability, but it’s all so watered down now. Less like a pile driver and more like a sternly worded memo.
It also serves to dismantle and pacify any possibility of actual opposition growing a pair. When just saying something is “ripping” someone, it has the effect of making it seem like something that is actually effective is being done. When the cult does it, it works for them because it is intended to build cults of ideology that oppose reality by appealing to egos, but they also call for their base to mobilize in ways that are effective. Here, people and politicians just don’t want to face doing what would be effective, so they just add stronger language for their usual fallback.
Imagine if the American revolution had been about people just waiting for the British parliament and King George III to roll over with peaceful protests while they waited. The side with the gullible personality cult is the one getting mobilized and radicalized while the opposition is pacified with the illusion that due process will suddenly materialize again and that everyone will acknowledge how right they were.
All these headlines make the relative pacifism that is happening seem like activism that is being effective. People need to realize how bad things are going to feel bad enough to do something about it, not be told that just pointing out “that’s bad!” is ripping anyone a new one just because it comes from another mouthpiece. There’s nothing wrong with the news getting out or pointing out how bad it is, it’s the language that suggests that more is being done against it than actually is.
AOC recently voted in favour of an ADL supported definition of “anti-semitism”.
So I’m sorry but whatever leftwing sounding stuff she says has to be assumed to be purely theatre, same as when the DNC assholes claim to care about workers, the poor or minorities.
You can’t be a Leftwinger and support ethno-Fascists like the Zionists at the same time, so one has to conclude from her own actions that AOC’s “leftwing character” is purelly performative and basically the ideology-free business strategy of crafting an image that differentiates oneself from the competition whilst not in fact being any different.
Whomever is the inheritor of Bernie’s politics, it ain’t her.
I am getting real sick and tired of fake-leftist concern trolls pushing bad-faith purity test rhetoric.
Agree 100% She’s one of the few who take no money from AIPAC. This might be bot activity?
Take a really hard look at yourself if you think a leftwinger should have no red lines at all in what they support.
Only unprincipled people have no red lines at all, and if you think that somebody who doesn’t have a red line when it comes to supporting an ethno-Fascist ideology like Zionist is going to have a red line when it comes to things like destroying the Environment, further weakening worker rights or further destroying social security, then I have a water crossing piece of real-estate to sell you.
She could easilly had just abstained, but no, she had to support Zionism.
Reminds me of Marx Groucho’s saying “I have Principles. If you don’t like them, I have others” - if AOC acts like that, how is she ethically any different from the likes of Pelosi?
if AOC acts like that, how is she ethically any different from the likes of Pelosi?
If you’re too fucking stupid to understand things like compromise and strategic voting, that’s nobody’s problem but your own.
Take a really hard look at yourself
You need to take your own fucking advice and quit being a condescending dipshit.
Were do the compromises stop?
“Compromise” is the ultimate vague excuse for dishonest politicians - it justifies everything and is the ultimate salesman argument.
Talk of “need for compromise” is right now used by the worst amongst the Democrats to support Republican legislation and has backed 4 decades of the Democrat Party moving so far to the Right that they’re as Rightwing Reagan was on Economics and even more to the Right that he was in subjects like immigration.
Oh yeah, this is the totally brilliant line of thinking that helped put Trump back in office. You’ll forgive me if I discount you entirely.
You keep making bullshit blanket statements. You need to understand that not all compromises are the same – what you compromise on and why matters. AOC was not ever going to get the party to budge on Zionism, so what’s the fucking point of destroying her credibility and effectiveness on other issues by tilting at windmills?
Speaking of which, you have no credibility and I don’t give a fuck about anything you have to say. Go away.
Mate, given the style of your interaction with heavy recourse to personal insults and the low (low, low, oh so very low) reasoning and intellectual level it proves, going away from your posts is a great advice.
Lots of words to try to explain being a dumbshit. It’s moral to support the lesser of evils, full stop.
There are other, actually honest and Principled Democrats worthy of your support, most notably Bernie Sanders.
AOC, sadly, with this just proved herself as an unprincipled politician who just talks the right talk but when push comes to shove doesn’t walk the walk.
Actions speak louder than words, and if in her actions she betrays the principles she claims to have for this, what else will she betray when its convenient for her?
Might want to support the Democrats who actually stick by the principles they say they have rather than annoint “heroes” and “saviours” based purelly on the quality of their talkie-talkie and then mindlessly rage when they’re criticized for not following in action the principles they claim to have.
Bernie is not a Democrat
Ok, I’m not an American so clarify this for me: was he also not a Democrat when he was a Candidate in the Democrat Primaries against Hillary Clinton (hence then it was allowed only because of that) or has he left the party in the meanwhile (hence we would not be able to run for it now) or was he always an Independent and it was always allowed?
Because if AOC trully is the ONLY hope for the American left, you people are indeed trully fucked if she turns out to have “flexible” principles.
The desperation of having no other viable option would explain the “She’s CANNOT be criticized” style of feedback I’m getting to criticizing her for, in this subject not actually standing for the principles she claims to have, including people talking about the whole “we have to vote for the lesser evil” part, which only makes sense if there is literally no other viable candidate from the left side of the Democrat Party and hence AOC being less than honest being panic inducing for anybody not a full-on neoliberal (which would explain the number of people whose response to me was little more than personal insults)
There are no other candidates for her elected position. So we could not vote and let another republican in or vote for her if you live in her district. Not understanding this is why you are a dumb ass. I’ll keep using personal insults when they fit.
Was, specifically for the primary, and then left.
Yes, we are truly fucked, and if you check our political history, have practically always been truly fucked, remain truly fucked, and continue to be truly fucked - as evidenced by our current administration and the last… All of them.
We had to fight a civil war to convince a solid half that slavery had to stop. And then kept doing it anyways, and still do it today. The whole empire sits on the graves of the original people, the survivors of whom still live in reservations we put on the shittiest possible land, and have for centuries now with no change regardless who’s in power.
This is the USA. This has always been the USA, once you peeled off the Hollywood varnish.
Slava Ukraini you Russian troll.
Sure mate, I’m a Russian troll and a stupid one even who thinks AOC very important for Ukraine whilst Bernie Sanders (who I very clearly supported) would be deliver Ukraine to Russia.
Keep on arse licking your “sacred cows” and not holding them to the principles they claim to have, because that has been so great for America (TWO Trump Presidencies and, if its up to him, counting) and thus by extention to the Ukraine who you claim to want Glory for.
Russian troll, just because you support Bernie doesn’t mean squat.
AOC is growing quite popular and you feel threatened by it.
Oh man, that was something else as arguments go.
Consider your “Russian troll” thoroughly crushed (and entertained) by that argument.
You have a good day: you gave me a good laugh and as I see it you deserve a good day for it.
I understand why you might not agree with her but seeing things in such black and white in what got Trump elected a 2nd time.
Mate, if somebody is willing to cross any and all lines, they don’t really have Principles - they’re practicing that good old Marxist (the Groucho rather than the Karl) adage of “These are my Principles. If you don’t like them, I have others”.
Maybe I’m naive, but in my view a genuine Leftwinger must have Principles and hence red lines, not just talk the talk whilst not walking the walk - in other words, be more than a self-promoting salesman, since a self-promoting salesman is really just a “personal upside maximizer” which is just another way of saying a follower of the “What’s in it for me?!” right-wing mindset.
Again, in my naivity, I see actual direct support for the desires of a ethno-Fascist ideology - Zionism - currently mass murdering children due to their ethnicity, as a red line that nobody with even the smallest shred of Humanitarian Principles would cross.
(I can understand the “I’m not absolutelly sure” statement of abstaining, but activelly voting for it is something else altogether).
In a way, I think you almost got there but just stopped short of following the last step in the logical chain: Trump did got elected a second time because of this shit, not because of the people complaining about the politicians who say one thing and do something else, but because almost all politicians are doing it including so many self-proclaimed leftwing ones, so the word of politicians is all worth the same in the eyes of anybody who is not a fully indoctrinated party tribalist and in such an environment a populist shamelessly lying can swindle a lot more people than in an environment were dishonesty in politicians isn’t as widespread and normalized and hence would get punished - in other words, both the election of a shameless lying populist like Trump AND people complaining about dishonest and hypocrite self-proclaimed leftwing politicians are the product of the same things: the normalization of dishonesty in Politics.
You’re not wrong about the dishonesty and hypocrisy—it has poisoned the well across the board. A politician without red lines or real principles isn’t on the left, no matter what they call themselves.
But where we differ is in how we respond to that reality. As much as I agree with your point, I have to take a more pragmatic view. Not voting against Trump is part of how we got Trump. Sitting it out or refusing to engage just hands power to the worst option.
I hate the choices as much as anyone. It’s a shit sandwich. But I’d rather work with what I’ve got and try to make it suck less than give the whole table over to outright fascism.
I’ll keep calling out the hypocrisy, and I’ll keep pushing from the left—but I won’t step aside and let something far worse win by default. Idealism has to live in the real world, or it ends up serving the very thing it claims to resist.
Chose a faker like AOC to be the Democrat candidate and you’re just switching the swindlers, thus maintaing the climated of “say one thing do something else” political dishonesty that leaves the door open for another Trump-like populist to win next time around.
If I was an American in American I would be working my ass off in the Democrat Primaries and even at local level, including guerrila political propaganda tactics, to make sure that the real leftwingers were being pushed forwards in large numbers at that level and doing all I could to screw the AIPAC supported candidates, since continuing the Democract strategy of fielding liars and hypocrites is only going to make sure that the Trump problem happens again and again and again until one day one of them finally succeeds in becoming dictator for life.
I mean, surelly Democrats learned from Trump’s second victory that “more of the same” isn’t a solution for far-right polulism.
Right?!
Right?!..
I think you and I are going to have to just agree to disagree. I looked through your comments and it is clear the side you are on. You have a nice day.
Only mindless tribalists have “sides” and think others are like that too.
Having Principles, on the other hand, means having no “sacred cows” who are above criticism when their actual actions do not respect such principles.
Tagging everybody who disagrees with their views with a “side” is how people who would otherwise be thinking individuals reduce themselves to easilly led muppets.
Have a nice day, sir.
Mate,
How about you mind your own business since it’s a pretty fair guess to say you cannot vote in my country.
Unless I’m wrong, in which case, carry on.
If you look through thier comments you will see their agenda. I will leave it at that. Best thing to do is just ignore them.
Aoc 2028
Since 2015 or so…
If my representatives fought this proposal, calling them does no good.
So how do we find out if our reps approved of it? Those are the reps that need to be replaced. I feel like there’s no easy way to find out whether my reps approved of a prop
If my representatives fought this proposal, calling them does no good.
That’s not necessarily true. Even if they’re on the right side of an issue, calling them can still be useful by helping encourage them to continue to hold the line.
The prop isn’t on there. Neither are the dates.
IIRC, this was on a committee. It’s not a vote on the floor yet. Basically a smaller discussion group having conversations about legislation before it is voted on.
I understand the issue. It’s clear. What I don’t understand is this article focusing on Ocasio-Cortez’s “by the light of day” comment.
Are people watching these proceedings live on C-Span with their hand on the phone ready to call their congressperson’s office? If Republicans pushed this through “during the light of day,” would it make any actual difference? Why can’t congresspersons challenge this in the middle of the night? Does Ocasio-Cortez think Republican constituents will be making those calls to change the minds of their politicians? 🤔
Republican voters are way more engaged than Democrat or progressive voters. Any day of the week.
It’s why they have so much more content, content creators and social media presence. They put in the work. But not just put in the work. They target specific areas that are effective for either changing public opinion or applying pressure to government to get their issue across.
They put in the work because the oligarchs are aligned with them, so they have a basically unlimited firehose of money to pay people to shill for them.
Meanwhile, leftists have to rely on volunteer labor.
That can be part of it. But it isn’t the whole reason. They’re engaged. They do strategize and organize much better.
Because it’s literally their full-time job.
No it isn’t their full time job. That’s making excuses for why they’re more effective. They’re more effective because they had orgs that figured it out while they also had enough social awareness to understand the assignment given to them. Defend your party. Succeed. Create content. Share content.
Dems fall apart, Reps fall in line.
Meidas touch is catching up
I really hate Meidas touch. It’s clickbait titles going on about nothingburger events. “Trump slammed” “republicans make catastrophic mistake” “Republican makes career ending move” Its just a left wing version of Info Wars
Then don’t watch it. It’s not for you.
Make up your mind. Either the left competes with the right or you just sit and complain how they don’t compete with the right enough. And I disagree with nothing burger. The DOJ keeps getting wiped in court. And the congress is scrappy, dems are tripping the magamind congress into admitting mistakes. And you’ll need this exposure for the midterms so people know exactly what kind of scum their rep is.
But we need shit like that.
I think that comment is proving what I’m saying. Every time there’s momentum on the left, it’s not perfect and therefore can’t support it. Without any media being supported there’s no momentum.
If you look in the right, they’re still pissed off about Rosanne. I just saw a YouTube comment yesterday pissed off at John Goodman for being a back stabber. Lots of upvotes and jokes. And that rallying is absent for anything on the left
It does engage the low information center to center left.
Why aren’t they? It’s their medicaid benefits.
I think you are overestimating just how much constituents are invested in what their politicians actually do…
Many many many persons feel the side effects, the burn, of their elected politicians deviating from what they hoped. And yet each election cycle, these politicians continue to be voted in.
I mean, they get mad, but mad enough to watch C-Span and make calls…? 😅
I guess but it has been many years of them feeling the burn from their own party. Can’t tell if any of them are waking up or not.
Honestly, they’re not.
I hate to say it, but the system needs to crash and burn for people to wake up. I need and want to avoid that at all costs, but some people… most people… don’t seem to be able to learn without it.
I believe you’re right, unfortunately.
They won’t. These people wouldn’t care if they were burning alive as long as it meant whoever they hate was suffering even more.
It’s been a slow burn, like a frog in boiling water, with policies mostly affecting younger people. The Heritage Foundation came up with a detailed 50 year plan in 1973 to completely take over the country to make it more corporate and Christian, and we’ve been seeing that play out ever since Reagan.
Second Thought has a good video about them here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eeCPRD0Hgg
This is classic language to pacify you, to make you think someone is out there speaking and a fighting on your behalf.
They’re literally attacking Medicare? Don’t worry AOC is putting the GOP in their place, she’s SLAMMING them and ripping them a new one!
I want to believe you’re wrong, but… I can’t. 😔
