McIntire, a 19-year-old student at Boston’s University of Massachusetts, appeared in federal court Friday and has been charged with one count of unlawful possession of an unregistered destructive device and one count of malicious damage by fire of any property used in interstate commerce.
Yes, arson is a crime, and rightly so. “Decades behind bars”, however, for setting two cars on fire (and damaging two charging stations) is insanely disproportionate. There’s a very important reason that not all infractions are sentenced to the maximum possible extent:
If the government is going to drop any pretense of mercy or sanity, then there’s no reason why people shouldn’t take their time, plan things carefully, and destroy the whole dealership. People who would otherwise do less damage are taking note. Sure, some will be scared away, but I think more will be emboldened. Maybe I’m wrong, but it doesn’t matter. Either way, the end result will be worse.
The government is basically telling people that prosecutors won’t be reasonable, so you might as well make sure the crime is truly worthy of the punishment. I cannot overemphasize what a terrible idea this is.
Her punishment should be at least as bad as the sentences rioters served for breaking into the U.S. capitol. Or maybe that should be the cap since her actions didn’t result in death and weren’t intended as an attempt at insurrection (unless someone that owns Tesla is now considered the head of government).
It’s like the zero-tolerance policy my at my kid’s school…
I told them if you get hit, since you’re going to get suspended anyway, fight back until I get there to pick you up.
Hi!
We’re the Trump regime.
Every idea we have is the worst one imagined!
Have a horrible day!
Absolutely, it’s called a proportional response for a reason. I always think of the West Wing scene when this subject comes up. The whole scene lives in my head rent free to be honest.
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Cop: kills innocent man; gets 2 years of prison
Student: burns 2 ugly as fuck cars in protest, hurting no actual people; gets several decades of prison
Wait, your cops are going to prison?
Sometimes they need a fall guy otherwise the peons start to see a pattern.
Very rarely. And only in the most grotesque cases.
occasionally they need to satiate the people with a performative, jailing of PIGs. they will definitely do it if a rich person gets killed.
Damn if that’s what happens for hurting a car might as well go after the man
For real, those piece of shit cars have more rights than we do
two Tesla Cybertrucks worth more than $100,000
Doubt
I mean, it looks like a new cyber truck starts at $62k right now. They’re not wrong, but that’s no reason to completely ruin this guy’s life, he’s already paying for college…
What they are worth is what someone is willing to pay for it, not what Tesla prices it at.
They aren’t selling: Cybertruck Isn’t Selling So Tesla Shifts Production To What Actually Sells
Even Tesla doesn’t want them and refuses them as trade-ins but will take other cars so its not a problem with trade-ins in general: Tesla Is So Cooked That It’s Now Refusing to Accept Cybertrucks as Trade-Ins
but that’s no reason to completely ruin this
girl’sguy’s life, she’s already paying for college…We agree on this.
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Noted and changed, thanks
I’m not a lawyer but the feds claiming it as a federal case because cars could be used in interstate commerce seems lame. Should be a Missouri case, not a federal case.
They are pushing for federal because it involved Elonazi’s Swasticars.
The rule of law isn’t important anymore.
The rule of law is dead. Enter the age of action and consequence.
If you get decades for that then this just encourages going all in.
They really are this dumb.
They think this will discourage targeted destruction of an oligarch? Decades for worthless cars?
If you get decades for that- make sure to get the rest of the lot. Bonus points for for a factory.
If you’re going to go part way, may as well go full way. Shooting season is about to start.
Should have led an insurrection instead, and then become president. Though I forgot if you need to also defraud a charity, be a cheating rapist slumlord and get convicted of 34 felonies first, or if the order doesn’t matter. Things are changing so fast nowadays.
Another witness filmed a video of the fire and posted it on X, the affidavit said. The witness claimed they saw McIntire fleeing the scene.
And the rats? What do they get? Honestly, disgusting that someone would help the police find her. Like what even are your morals. Fucking pathetic.
him* possibly them*
-The article says the suspects full name is “Owen McIntire” being the only hint to suspect gender.
“Leave the multi billion dollar company alone unsheaths plastic katana”
“Listen, I’m legally required to tell you to cease your ingress ma’am. Please don’t make me tell you again. I will raise my voice if i have to!”
Impossible. She was at my house at the time of said incident.
I set fire to that dealership.
I really don’t like jury duty. And would do plenty to get out of it. If I got called for this one. I would happily nullify it as hard as I could.
No you would not. You would find that she is not guilty.
What you’re describing has a name, and that name is nullification.
No it’s not. Discussing nullification would get be booted off a jury. However, if considering all the facts, I were to vote not guilty, it would not.
Think whatever you like but jury nullification is when a juror votes “not guilty” when they actually think someone is guilty of a law that they disagree with.
Okay. Apparently you think I’m fighting you for no reason. Is it nullification? Yes. Don’t call it that. Don’t talk about that. Because it will get you booted off a jury.
Haha, I mean, we’re definitely arguing over semantics but you’re saying something equivalent to, “No, don’t eat ice cream. Put some in your mouth and then swallow it, but don’t eat. We never eat.”
Except the point is that if you say you would eat ice cream, you don’t get the ice cream. Legally speaking as a juror you are supposed to uphold the law. If the judge or prosecutor has any inkling you might nullify, they’ll boot your ass out of the pool in a hurry.
Only if nullification was not a possibility. Nullification sends a much stronger and important message. Namely we don’t give a fuck if they’re guilty or not. Because this is a bullshit show trial that does not have Justice in mind. Yes I’m aware prosecutors often ask for the largest applicable sentence possible eventually negotiating down. That doesn’t make this any less bullshit.
I used to drive on State Line past that lot full of Teslas daily, always saw a ton of Cybertrucks just sitting. Once Musk started getting so much (more) hate I figured it was a matter of time before someone torched it.
Also, I always find it funny how it’s totally just a road that divides the states, I’d drive to work and be “in” Missouri and drive home “in” Kansas lol
I work in KS and live in MO. Love paying income tax in two states! /s
It’s honestly better if that inventory sits on the lot unpurchased. It costs them money to store it and it looks bad for them having old inventory around months or even years out of date. Torching it just gives them a nice insurance payout.
How can you possibly blame this kid when Cybertrucks have been known to self-immolate? They have faulty batteries that catch on fire left and right; the rustbucket was likely already on fire before he got there.
Yeah, it’s like prosecuting women for miscarriages. Oh wait.
Too bad he wasn’t a right wing kid shooting liberal protestors to death because he’d be hailed as a hero and given awards and tv appearances.
Needs to cry in court first
If we ever get another President not named Trump this will be pardoned instantly.
