Researchers have come up with two new urinal designs to prevent the spillage of “ill-aimed pee.”
Seems like a complete lie. Men might lose a few drops due to the shape of the bowl tops. It’s certainly not worth anyone tearing out urinals in the hope some hypothetical piss splashage goes down.
And personally a better goal for urinal design is water reduction. i.e. urinals that use no water, or the bare minimum to flush the piss through.
a better goal for urinal design is water reduction. i.e. urinals that use no water
Don’t get me started on those “zero water” urinals. They start to stink and accumulate all kinds of nasty in a matter of weeks. There’s a reason we flush all of that stuff down the toilet and into the sewers.
They have them in all the McDonald’s around here and I’ve never noticed any difference in smell. There is a sticker near the urinal saying they save tens of thousands of litres of drinking water per year which I can believe. I think the system has some kind of valve and siphon to prevent smells.
It’s a little more than 1/2 a teaspoon, per person. Not exactly hard to believe.
Men aren’t dumping half a teaspoon of piss on the floor. Adults are capable of aiming and pissing and the only waste might be where piss strikes a surface and droplets escape the bowl - assuming the bowl was terrible and everyone in the nation pissed at the exact angle to cause droplets to achieve escape velocity. It’s an absurd generalisation and also an absurd problem in search of a solution.
I seriously doubt this number, as it’s roughly 7ml for every male in America. I recall from chemistry classes that there are about 10 drops of water in a ml, so that’s 70 full-size drops - or a lot more small droplets - hitting the floor during a day of peeing a few times. A lot of it would land on the front of our pants, so it would be super common for guys to have pee liberally splattered all over our pants. That just doesn’t happen, unless maybe you did something weird like pee straight at a tile wall. The only way this could be true is if there are a significant number of guys who deliberately pee on the floor. Anybody wanna fess up?
It’s more like 6ml (264172/166100000 gallons), and considering the average man produces between 800 and 2000ml per day, that’s like a 0.5% spill rate.
Also it says nothing about the rate being evenly distributed over the days, it could be that the average guy spills a fraction of a liter in one slip up every couple weeks, not 6ml every single day. Plus the young and elderly likely throw off those averages.
Lastly, your assumption that most drops go on the pants ignores the whole point of the new design this article is about: the splashback. They claim most of the urine that misses a urinal splashes out in microdroplets.
I quit caring a while back so I could be driving up the numbers.
I can easily not “spill”. What’s more annoying is the splash damage and I wish researchers find a better toilet design as well to prevent splashing.
Well good news, that is exactly what these researchers looked into.
I have to imagine that a fair amount of that is intentional. Some people are just pigs.
100%.
Fun fact: intentionally leaving pee on floors and toilet seats is a lesser-known but frequently-observed associated trait of Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD).
I guess it’s some kind of primal lizard brained “territorial” thing, I dunno.
Two things that rattle around my brain constantly:
- Leave it better than you found it.
- Be mindful of the work you leave for others.
Those don’t even come to my mind, I live them without thought.
OK, sometimes if a thing is a PITA I’ll think, “Crap, can’t make someone else do it.”
OK. Well you’re better than me. ✌️
Nah, not better. You will eventually stop thinking about these things and they’ll just happen.
I do but the mindfulness is a feature, not a bug.
For a while I worked for a shitty little marketing company that had, shall we say, a high frequency of narcissistic traits among the C suite. The men’s room in that office was the worst I’ve ever seen in terms of there always being puddles of piss on the floor.
Also, a very large majority of the execs didn’t wash their hands when they were finished.
I’m struggling to find sources for this but I’d love to learn more. Anything you can share?
I’m pretty sure they are either making shit up or regurgitating something that was made up by someone else. Most bad habits that people attribute to some personality disorder is just nonsense and you can fairly easily disregard it. It’s like the asshole that says they’re OCD because they think it means you’re a little quirky.
Fuckin’ Thomas Kinkade
I can’t explain the psychology behind it, but this really simple design technique apparently still works.
Apparently some men need a reason to aim, and will continue doing so even after they realize they’ve been bamboozled.
*some men…it’s pretty difficult to miss the bowl when seated lol
Yeah, but there’s plenty of women who don’t want to touch the toilet seat so they hover over it and get it dirty as a result.
Ironic isn’t it? It would have been fine if everyon just sat down. Just whipe the seat with a cleaning tissue first if you don’t trust it.
The waste (╯°□°）╯
DOGE needs to fix this.
The researchers suggest that if Nautilus was to replace the 56 million urinals across the U.S., around 1 million liters of urine would be prevented from being splashed onto the floor every day. Assuming that the volume of water needed to clean up spilled urine is about 10 times that of the volume of urine, about 10 million liters (2,199,692 gallons) of fresh water could be saved every day, the scientists said.
The widespread adoption of these urinal designs “would result in considerable conservation of human resources, cost, cleaning chemicals, and water usage, rendering large-scale impacts on modern society by improving sustainability, hygiene, and accessibility,” the researchers wrote.
They should drop everything and do this first thing.
Assuming that the volume of water needed to clean up spilled urine is about 10 times that of the volume of urine, about 10 million liters (2,199,692 gallons) of fresh water could be saved every day, the scientists said.
These scientists appear to be working under the incorrect assumption that the urine gets cleaned…
They’re also assuming the bathroom floors wouldn’t be cleaned regularly if there wasn’t urine on them. I’m pretty sure all buildings with a custodial staff mops the floor everyday, bathrooms twice a day. They’d at most reduce cleaning the bathroom to once daily instead if these urinals we’re absolutely perfect and no other reason for cleaning bathroom floors existed.
Think of what we could be doing with that urine if we actually invested in recapturing it.
Not sure if youre sarcastic or not (I was), but there has actually been research if the nutrients in urine can be used as fertiliser and I believe the result was positive.
Sit and pee.
Urinals are disgusting.
/European man
Us poor women gotta sit :(
Well when there are no seat covers, I always lay some TP over the seat before sitting. Or squat without sitting.
First wipe the seat, because people be nasty and leave piss droplets while hovering, then line the TP. Unless there’s no toilet seat, then it’s hover time.
At home, absolutely.
Out and about, I ain’t sitting on that nasty seat, thank you very much.
I see someone skipped leg day.
I just hover over the seat.
I always forget to bring my scroll of levitation when I go out!
But urinals are so much more efficient both in regards to water usage and time.
They’re very efficient at spreading piss all over the place, yes.
Sure pal, and it’s not like 90% of men piss standing into a toilet as well, which oftentimes ends up worse than using a urinal.
… and those same men wonder why women find them repulsive.
Sit and pee.
A little bit of piss never hurt nobody.
American here. I’ve started doing this at home and it’s just way more sanitary. No more drops off pissy toilet water splashing around.
When I’m out and about I still pee standing up because public restrooms are filthy.
I sit to pee when I get up in the middle of the night. Don’t have to be able to see.
That’s a good point too.
Stand and pee.
Sitting is bad.
/Australian man
… says the guy who wee-wees upside down
Squat and pee.
Sitting and standing is bad.
/Italian man
Pee however you want
Worrying about what other people do when they aren’t hurting anyone is fragile
/Master man
Pee in mouth?
/Kinky manPee on self?
/Bison man
How the fuck else u supposed to water the trees?
Just turn on the rain, that’s all there’s to it
In fucking straya? That shit just decides to stop working sometimes.
Never not seen a urinal in europe
I used to be in this camp, but will now avoid public toilets whenever possible. Not having to sit on others pee and butt sweat is pretty awesome.
People might sit more in your country, but I’ve never heard of that being particularly European.
Hmm, well there’s that. So Germany and Scandinavia ranker higher (I’m from Denmark and sometimes sit). I have to wonder how this correlates to a standard development index. It’s not unusual for the US to be a cultural outlier on those.
Are you German? They’re famous for their sitzpinklers
Love that word/anecdote! It’s a good example of a German compound word but it’s also one of the silliest examples of male identity gatekeeping I’ve heard of.
Is there a third to wipe?
LEG DAY EVERY DAY
It’s because people stand too far back from the urinal, and then shake it like they are trying to kill it. Get in there, and then finish with a gentle squeeze or two and you won’t splatter everywhere.
Or, instead of that, pee sitting down.
Zero spillage.
Meh then you wasting like 4x the water.
If its yellow let it mellow. Not for too long though.
I once saw a road stop urinal that had a step that forced you to get to the right distance. Genius and simple.
Just thinking how many times I use a urinal a year, multiply by population, the only way this makes sense is with some number of people just pissing onto the floor.
It’s 0.003 liters per day per person
you suck at math
So you think the average person uses a public urinal more than 365 times a year? Also about half the population sit.
I didn’t write the article :)
If you’re angry about the math comment, bust out a calculator. You could have reached that verdict yourself.
A calculator isn’t going to tell me how many times a year I use a urinal.
About three times per day during the work day makes for ~800 times per year. Seems to be on the right order of magnitude to me.
I can’t speak for the whole country but where I work people really do just piss on the floor.
THIS IS WHY
If we could all be civil and just sit down to pee, the world would be a better place.
Yes I’ve been saying this for at least 20 years. Toilets are for sitting and urinals are for standing. My wife also appreciates this.
The problem is: This only works if EVERYONE does it. The second anyone breaks and gets a few drops on the toilet seat, it’s over. Because that is part of the reason we stand in the first place. We know how gross we are, and if you can see the gross it validates that.
I hate society 😔 lmfao
You never worked in a school I guess.
Ultimate solution:
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Gotta paint some faces on there, with puckered lips.
My biggest issue is stream strength. I have issues peeing and often dribble or have a split stream.
Yes I’ve talked to my urologist about it. Several in fact.
No it’s not my prostate. No it’s not a weak pelvic floor.
I’ve been suffering with this for almost 20 years and docs still don’t know what’s going on.
Sorry about the narrow urethra, Hank.
How about just sitting down on the toilet? Don’t get me wrong it’s great you got it checked out but sometimes there are pretty simple solutions.
I knew a guy in high school that absolutely refused to sit to pee. Said every time he had to shit he would stand to pee than turn around and go.
Some men are just insane
What was his reasoning?
Said only females and cripples sit to pee
Yep, that’s about as insane as I was expecting, lol.
I asked him if he ever cropped dusted himself by accident and everyone laughed when he hesitated
Sitting down isn’t always feasible. For example, the bathroom in my house has a round toilet bowl and my cock doesn’t fit. The bathroom is too small for an elongated bowl.
I use a cup for home and at work I just do my best.
I have no idea how small your toilet or large your penis is, but what do you do with your penis, when you have bowel movement?
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My penis sits on the toilet seat between my legs. It’s uncomfortable to put under the seat to pee.
How do you not pee while poopping? I thought all poopoo times were peepee times.
Maybe he does. Where do you think all these liters off spilled pee are coming from?
I will sit when every toilet is elongated enough to not risk rubbing my junk on the rim.
Look at mister two and a half inches over here.
I find split steam is more common after very long nights of sex
Yes…my partner knows this all too well. 😅
I wonder wether they took these kinds of things in account in the research, if it’s about collecting to highest percentage of pee possible than I’d argue this matters too. They also say their design is better for children and people in wheelchairs so who knows.
Anyone, whether it’s man or woman, who pisses or shits or whatever all over a toilet (i.e. not inside) has quite likely never cleaned a fucking toilet in their life.
Source: Have cleaned toilets, not just my own, before - it has changed me.
I mean the dick is sometimes arbitrary, even when you make sure as not to have any foreskin in the way of your urethra.
But if that happens to me, I’m usually courteous enough to take a hit of paper and at least dab most of it away. But if it’s a rank toilet with already piss waving on the floor, no thanks. Sorry. Can’t help, the amount of toilet paper in one cubicle isn’t enough. And usually the places with that level of hygiene don’t necessarily have even a toilet seat, let alone several rolls of paper.
I’ve started sitting to pee, when at home
I’m doing MY part!!!
“Would you like to know more?”
Story time.
It honestly feels like about 264,000 gallons of that were spilled at a placed I used to work. I still have no idea who the culprit(s) was.
No kidding, the problem was so bad that building management stepped in and… added chamomile scented floor mats beneath the urinals to catch and deodorize the… ugh (gross)… drippings. It was such a strong smell that it wafted out into the hallway with the subtlety of a sledgehammer. This prompted some of the women in the office to remark at how unfair it was that the men’s room was obviously getting all this extra attention. I almost can’t describe the mixture of disappointment and disgust on their faces once I explained why this was happening.
I also once had to explain to my wife that the above situation, along with the smell of urinal cakes and most gas-station-restroom deodorizers, are the reason why chamomile tea is a hard pass for me.
Should build them as wet rooms, periodically a large shower head sprays down the entire room.
Don’t forget to flush the bathroom
Sounds maybe a plumbing problem.
I want to know how they estimated that
Do a small test with a single user, take the amount of spillage then times it by the pissing population and average numbers of wees a day.
