• jet@hackertalks.com
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    Great. I agree. Let’s open the border between the Koreas and let people self-select.

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        South Korea’s perfectly able to disinvite the United States it whenever it wants.

        Let’s not move the goal post. The theory we’re testing is that North Korea is superior to South Korea for the civilians. So we don’t need to change anything to test this theory. Just open the border. And let anybody move with no restrictions. That’ll help us see which is better for the people.

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          South Korea’s perfectly able to disinvite the United States it whenever it wants.

          Lmao, sure

          Let’s not move the goal post. The theory we’re testing is that North Korea is superior to South Korea for the civilians. So we don’t need to change anything to test this theory. Just open the border. And let anybody move with no restrictions. That’ll help us see which is better for the people.

          Its not moving any goal posts, remove the hostile precense first. Btw, why do you think South Korea needs to bribe any possible defectors with almost a million dollars? Surely just escaping the horrible North would be enough incentive? Why are there so few North Korean defectors, and even some of them complain how the North was better?

          You’re making it seem like the country is split only due to the North. As if it is their decision.

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            I don’t see what’s wrong with just letting everybody move how they want. Don’t pay them at all. See where they move. Why can’t we do that experiment?

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              Ok, we cant do such an experiment though, as neither country allows moving to either one. Tell me, why doesn’t South Korea allow their citizens to even enter North Korea? Surely the freedom and liberty loving South Korea should allow this freedom to their citizens, are they not confident in their absolute superiority?

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                I’m not a politician of that country. But if I had to guess

                Reciprocity

                Usually open borders between countries requires a bilateral agreement between the countries to allow that movement. So opening the border for people to get stuck in the other country isn’t great. And countries typically don’t let that happen.

                South Koreans certainly can fly to China and then take the land border into North Korea. Nothing stopping that

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                  Excuses, if South Korea was so damn certain of their superiority, they’d allow unrestricted immigration into the North, afterall, isn’t this the reverse of what you’re saying?

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                    I’m saying we should do an experiment allowing people to move freely to wherever they want between the two countries. I’m not saying anything else. I’m not making any assortations about quality of life, because it’s not up to me it’s about the people who live there.

                    Modifying the countries, or anything else is not my place, cuz I don’t live there