Well, trump wouldn’t be elected into position - that is explicitly prohibited. So no running for him or Obama.
The “loophole” is that he’s trying to line up a coordinated effort to elect other GOP members. After elected they’ll nominate trump into the line of succession as Secretary of State or another unelected position. Once the pawns are in place, the line of succession simply has to step down until it falls to him. Third term without breaking the “elected twice to office” condition.
IMO this is just to test the base and get them used to him stay in the office until he dies then someone from his family takes over or maybe musk himself.
The goal is a dictatorship and if there will be an election it will be a sham one line putin has.
I agree it would be a temporary measure. Realistically Republicans only need ~6 more governors on board before they can start talking constitutional amendments, and do away with these pesky restrictions all together.
Not directly, but indirectly. You gerrymander the district-based positions, which allow you to pass legislation enabling you to suppress enough votes to win the statewide elections, too.
This “loophole” wouldn’t work. There are plenty of people in the line of succession that are ineligible to be President either due to being too young or being foreign-born. First, if it gets to the point where one of them would even become President, we have much bigger problems to worry about. Second, those people that would be ineligible would simply be skipped over for the next person in line who’s actually eligible.
Sure, they could use the same backwards logic and hand-waving of Constitutional amendments that they’ve been using all along, but at that point they might as well just make an exception for the 22nd amendment and call it a day. If they’re just planning to hand-wave away the rules anyway, why go through all those extra steps when just saying that the 22nd amendment is unenforceable would be quicker, easier, and accomplish the same thing?
I realize I’m playing advocate for a devil that needs no help, and I hope you’re right. Simply saying there are arguments taking place that seperate the requirements of “being elected” as defined in the 22nd vs “being eligible” as defined by article 2.
As it’s been explained to me, this interpretation would of course be challenged, and ultimately determined by our wonderful supreme court.
It’s a stupid loophole and hard to coordinate. The simple solution is for trump so send jd Vance, or whoever Trump figures can win and gets added on as VP, then he’d spend forever saying how the people wanted him back so badly. The President will step down and Trump again
He can’t run as VP because he is ineligible to be President. VP is the only position in the line of succession that can’t be skipped. Anyone chosen as VP must also be eligible to be President.
The easiest way for them to do it is to go the “Casino” route. Put in some sock puppet as President and have Trump be the “senior advisor” that’s calling the shots behind the scenes. Kinda like they’re doing now with Musk.
He just won’t leave, like Maduro in Venezuela. Who’s going to kick him out? Nobody kicked Maduro out, and HitlerPig’s betting that nobody will kick him out either.
If he tries it, there should be a death sentence on everyone in his administration. It might be hard to hit him, but when his staff and cabinet start dying in the streets while picking their dry cleaning or exiting a restaurant, they’ll all leave town toot sweet.
So Obama can run against him then?
Of course not, the two cases are totally different. They’re so different, it’s like black and white…
“White”
This is… The most accurate
They’re so different that if he tries he will be shot, either through official order or some frothing at the mouth maniac.
Well, trump wouldn’t be elected into position - that is explicitly prohibited. So no running for him or Obama.
The “loophole” is that he’s trying to line up a coordinated effort to elect other GOP members. After elected they’ll nominate trump into the line of succession as Secretary of State or another unelected position. Once the pawns are in place, the line of succession simply has to step down until it falls to him. Third term without breaking the “elected twice to office” condition.
IMO this is just to test the base and get them used to him stay in the office until he dies then someone from his family takes over or maybe musk himself.
The goal is a dictatorship and if there will be an election it will be a sham one line putin has.
I agree it would be a temporary measure. Realistically Republicans only need ~6 more governors on board before they can start talking constitutional amendments, and do away with these pesky restrictions all together.
Six flips is asking a lot when Red states are tending to lean more purple these days.
That sounds like something someone who’s never heard of gerrymandering or voter suppression would say.
Voter suppression would work, but you can’t gerrymander state-wide votes.
Not directly, but indirectly. You gerrymander the district-based positions, which allow you to pass legislation enabling you to suppress enough votes to win the statewide elections, too.
This “loophole” wouldn’t work. There are plenty of people in the line of succession that are ineligible to be President either due to being too young or being foreign-born. First, if it gets to the point where one of them would even become President, we have much bigger problems to worry about. Second, those people that would be ineligible would simply be skipped over for the next person in line who’s actually eligible.
Sure, they could use the same backwards logic and hand-waving of Constitutional amendments that they’ve been using all along, but at that point they might as well just make an exception for the 22nd amendment and call it a day. If they’re just planning to hand-wave away the rules anyway, why go through all those extra steps when just saying that the 22nd amendment is unenforceable would be quicker, easier, and accomplish the same thing?
I realize I’m playing advocate for a devil that needs no help, and I hope you’re right. Simply saying there are arguments taking place that seperate the requirements of “being elected” as defined in the 22nd vs “being eligible” as defined by article 2.
As it’s been explained to me, this interpretation would of course be challenged, and ultimately determined by our wonderful supreme court.
I’ve seen this loophole and it ends up with Jack Bauer being president.
It’s a stupid loophole and hard to coordinate. The simple solution is for trump so send jd Vance, or whoever Trump figures can win and gets added on as VP, then he’d spend forever saying how the people wanted him back so badly. The President will step down and Trump again
He can’t run as VP because he is ineligible to be President. VP is the only position in the line of succession that can’t be skipped. Anyone chosen as VP must also be eligible to be President.
The easiest way for them to do it is to go the “Casino” route. Put in some sock puppet as President and have Trump be the “senior advisor” that’s calling the shots behind the scenes. Kinda like they’re doing now with Musk.
He just won’t leave, like Maduro in Venezuela. Who’s going to kick him out? Nobody kicked Maduro out, and HitlerPig’s betting that nobody will kick him out either.
If he tries it, there should be a death sentence on everyone in his administration. It might be hard to hit him, but when his staff and cabinet start dying in the streets while picking their dry cleaning or exiting a restaurant, they’ll all leave town toot sweet.
No, the bill presented by GOP congress excludes any president that served two consecutive terms.
So currently, the only person on the planet that can serve a third term is trump.