Three out of four Americans — including 60% of Republicans — say the Trump administration’s use of a Signal group chat to discuss military strikes is a serious problem, according to the first poll out on the national security breach.
Three out of four Americans — including 60% of Republicans — say the Trump administration’s use of a Signal group chat to discuss military strikes is a serious problem, according to the first poll out on the national security breach.
I knew it was bad when the general consensus on the sycophantic subreddit r/conservative also held the opinion that these people should be held accountable. How terrible do you have to be to piss off your own loyalists? This timeline does not even feel real sometimes
That’s just the initial knee jerk reaction (based on their actual personal beliefs) before the Conservative Propaganda Machine tells them what to believe.
The conservatives themselves lag behind on real news. It takes a few days for their leaders to unite around their own narrative and to change the cycle. Just wait, the peons will start agreeing that it’s fake news shortly. Just like Russian interference and the perfect Ukraine call.
It was a perfect phone call!
I never understood how they didn’t balk at that statement. It’s utter drivel.
Here is what he means when he says it was a “Perfect Call”:
His political mentor, and all around legendary shithead and mobster lawyer Roy Cohn (also Roger Stone’s mentor), taught HitlerPig to use weasely language to be able to claim innocence and/or plausible deniablility. It’s what Michael Cohen referred to as “The Code:”
One part of it is to speak of himself in the third person, using the “Royal We.” On his infamous “Perfect Phone Call” with Zelensky, he told Z that aid was coming, but first, he wanted Z to “do US a favor,” and went on to demand that Ukraine launch a phony investigation against the Bidens before releasing the aid.
By using “Us” instead “Me,” he believed that he couldn’t be accused of a personal quid pro quo, and could argue that he was making a request on behalf of the American people, and not just himself, even though the demand only helps himself, and not America in any way.
That’s why he was so frustrated when nobody would pay attention to his choice of pronouns, constantly screeching about his “PERFECT phone call.” It was perfect because he thought it contained a undeniable loophole that would definitely hold up in court, and have the judge say “Ooh, you brilliant scamp, you skated free again with your incredible command of the English language. You got me, hats off to you, sir! CASE DISMISSED! (can I get a picture with you?)”
He was frustrated because it isn’t the 50s/60s, when judges were happy to help out any rich white guy. All they needed was the tiniest shred of an excuse, and using different pronouns was good enough. Today, judges aren’t going to accept such obvious machinations as a defense, and that pissed off HitlerPig, who was counting on his Rich/White privilege to get his case dismissed.
Even his allies didn’t try to defend him on that point, because everybody saw how ignorant that defense is, and nobody wanted to be the guy to say “He said Us, not We, so he’s off the hook,” because they knew they’d get excoriated in the media for saying something that stupid.
I can’t think of any examples right now, but after having that revelation, I’ve seen him refer to other situations as “perfect,” and they all include some variation on that same strategy of being vague enough that he THINKS he can claim plausible deniability. Pay attention, and you’ll learn to spot his “Mobster Language.”
Edit: NJSpradlin reminded me of his “Perfect Phone Call” with the Georgia election officials. Same deal.
Same as the one he had with the GA elections head guy, asking due another 10k or so votes. ‘Perfect calls’.
The interesting thing is that the immediate conservative response is the truth! They admit it before their fearless leaders lie and redirect. Russia WAS the enemy. We WERE at war with Eurasia.
“And you can’t let it happen, and you are letting it happen,” Trump said. “You know, I mean, I’m notifying you that you’re letting it happen. So, look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state.”
It was a VERY specific number. Oddly exact. So precise he absolutely could not have been asking for an honest double check of the results.
Eh.
They can SAY it’s unacceptable and someone should be held accountable.
But they won’t hold anyone with an “R” next to their name accountable at the polls. Or in any other significant way.